Official Jon Gruden Thread 35

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There is absolutely, 100%, no 10year, 20 year, or 30 year plan. No way. No one anywhere has any clue whats going to happen 5 years from now. All Currie is trying to do is make sure this next hire succeeds. He does not care one bit about a succession plan, at all.

Bold statement. Stated as a fact rather than your opinion as well. Pretty pompous of you. But carry on as if you’re the smartest guy here.
 
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There is absolutely, 100%, no 10year, 20 year, or 30 year plan. No way. No one anywhere has any clue whats going to happen 5 years from now. All Currie is trying to do is make sure this next hire succeeds. He does not care one bit about a succession plan, at all.

Yeah, because no CEO of any multi million $ corp ever thought more than 5 years ahead.
 
Full disclosure: I’ve been a “lurker” for 5 years and it wasn’t until last night that I actually created this user account. (Hate me if you may, but I’m just being honest). I am not connected nor do I have any information of value to add for y’alls information. I’m merely here to obtain ACCURATE information and to enjoy the fellowship.

Concern: I have followed this thread since it’s inception with much enjoyment, including the not-so-good stuff. This evening there were two (2), essentially simultaneous posts, that lead us all to believe our VFL prayers had been answered (Gruden deal was finalized). When I got back home from dinner, I logged on VN to find it was as if these posts had never been written.

Question: What in the f&$% is the real story?!?! Do we or do we not have the coach Vol Nation needs and wants?!?
 
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You can't make up your own mind what to believe but you KNOW there are no ling term plans for the program?

Seems legit..

You really think they have planned out the next 30 years of football when Curry took weeks to fire butch? Really? There has been this vast conspiracy to save the program and push for 30 years of dominance but he hemmed and hawed over getting rid of Butch?

Makes perfect sense
 
I don’t know **** and I admit that.

But I’m not stupid enough to believe in a vast conspiracy going on to change the course of TN football for the next 30 years. That’s called fanfiction

Wby? Because some people operate and think on higher level than you it makes it fiction?

There may not be a 20 year plan, but to dismiss it without proof is being lazy. Tbh, that's exactly what the program needs. They have been shooting from the hip for way too long.
 
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My neck is hurting, I'm tired and I have to get up early...

Good night ladies and gentlemen...
 
Funny part is the restaurant is called Columbia but it's actually a Cuban restaurant. Very expensive too to be Cuban food. I've been to the one in Clearwater Beach a couple of time. I go to Ybor City only in the daytime to pick up cigars when in Tampa but I don't suggest Ybor City at night. It gets pretty ghetto at night with fights and drunks coming out of the clubs and bars. Plus not a good area close by if you know what I mean.

Yep, saw some of that when we left the restaurant. Nephew on my wife's side married into a wealthy family there. I was at Columbia for their reception after the wedding. So many people there I cannot imagine what the bill totaled. Like that was not enough they had many other pre and post wedding activities and meals. They also had some concert going on at the arena and saw a few fights as we drove though there as well.
 
Wby? Because some people operate and think on higher level than you it makes it fiction?

There may not be a 20 year plan, but to dismiss it without proof is being lazy. Tbh, that's exactly what the program needs. They have been shooting from the hip for way too long.

To believe it with no proof is just plain insane
 
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I did, I'm sorry. I thought the whole discussion on "caddies" and the Honors Course and Ivan were hilarious. It was clearly written by someone who has never been to a Golf and Country Club before. I mean, seriously. Laughable how out of touch it was.

Why is knowing the bartenders or caddies names, or details about the Honors course "hilarious" and "out of touch"? I've been to a ton of them, and it sounds like info any member woukd know to me. Atlanta Vol is about as legit as you get on VN.
 
You really think they have planned out the next 30 years of football when Curry took weeks to fire butch? Really? There has been this vast conspiracy to save the program and push for 30 years of dominance but he hemmed and hawed over getting rid of Butch?

Makes perfect sense

Either you’re very young or just clueless how business works. You don’t think high level leaders of companies have 10-30 year strategies? Our own government passes legislation that specifically affects the next generation and beyond. TN is in the shape it’s in BECAUSE no one thought further then their own tenure. You know, other than you, the world is made up of other people.
 
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Volquest won't gimme that promotional code just trying to charge me. Why pay for that? Seems like you just get access to Brent and a few reporters
 
Bold statement. Stated as a fact rather than your opinion as well. Pretty pompous of you. But carry on as if you’re the smartest guy here.

Never claimed to be the smartest guy here, but I tell you what...Who is our next coach going to be? How are they going to do next season? How is Bama, FLA, UGA going to be? How much longer is Saban going to be there? Ok, now how about in 5 years? Since you think you know, tell me. Curries 10 and 20 year plan is to renovate the stadium and make sure the foundation is set for whoever the coach is in 10 and 20 years. He has already done that. There is no 10 year plan for who your coach is. HCs succeed or fail on their own time. Assistants leave all the time for other jobs. You, me, Currie....none of us know the future...there is no plan beyond the next hire.
 
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Why is knowing the bartenders or caddies names, or details about the Honors course "hilarious" and "out of touch"? I've been to a ton of them, and it sounds like info any member woukd know to me. Atlanta Vol is about as legit as you get on VN.

What did atl vol say tonight. I went back forever n didn't see it. Do u know what started the uproar
 
No joke my wife has GBM. For those that don't know she has terminal brain cancer. Chances are she won't be here by the end of next season. But it would make it all the difference in the world if Gruden became captain of this vessel. Anyone that knows me (not many on here) knows I've worked my ass off as a commercial fisherman, tree trimmer, and a butcher. I love my wife as much as I love UT and for her likewise. Come on Currie do me a solid! WE NEED THIS!

hug each other every day.
 
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Volquest won't gimme that promotional code just trying to charge me. Why pay for that? Seems like you just get access to Brent and a few reporters

I’m not a member

However it’s my understanding there are other insiders over there, some that were run out of here.

Most of the info that hits there comes over here pretty quickly
 
You really think they have planned out the next 30 years of football when Curry took weeks to fire butch? Really? There has been this vast conspiracy to save the program and push for 30 years of dominance but he hemmed and hawed over getting rid of Butch?

Makes perfect sense

there is more to all of this than hiring and firing. Whats the timeline on the 340m neyland facelift? You think it was drawn up overnight? Financial plans are absolutely projected and layed out in increments longer than 5 years. Doesnt mean they are met or unaltered during the timeframe.
 
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Either you’re very young or just clueless how business works. You don’t think high level leaders of companies have 10-30 year strategies? Our own government passes legislation that specifically affects the next generation and beyond. TN is in the shape it’s in BECAUSE no one thought further then their own tenure. You know, other than you, the world is made up of other people.

I’ve already said multiple times I don’t know anything, I suspect that I’m a lot younger than you so perhaps it is just my ignorance.

But frankly, I see no reason to believe there is some vast plan for the next 30 years when looking at the past ten years shows that they haven’t thought beyond next Tuesday in any way shape or form.

Perhaps you’re right in that planning for the next 30 years is the way to go but what exactly in this administration has given you any reason to believe they will do anything more than what they have done previously? Beyond what might or might not be a coincidence?

I live with a conspiracy theorists and I’ll tell you the same thing I tell him. Proof, not guess work.
 
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