Official Jon Gruden thread 32.

[jpope9]

all of these threads will just give fuel to the notion that our fans are unrealistic. They're an embarrassment!

And we wonder why we are mocked by the rest of the country.

Think we are bad? Guess you haven't visited the Georgia forums lately or the bama forums after the kick 6...

 

[Wild @s a Mink]

all of these threads will just give fuel to the notion that our fans are unrealistic. They're an embarrassment!

And we wonder why we are mocked by the rest of the country.

This comes as a surprise.

 

[Hammer85]

In reply to what poster Concep has said about the Stalking Horse.


If I understood the "analogy" right, you are saying that Ergen has bought ESPN from Disney with the stipulation that they fire Gruden so that he will be available for TN to hire?


That is a win-win. ESPN has no choice but to love us and we get Gruden. I like this.👍

 

[volinSmyrna]

The photo is causing me to lean towards fans. With Social Media, Twitter would be the place to send a cryptic statement about Butch being fake. Instagram is used to post pictures of things that matter to you in life.

I could be overthinking it and he's just saying Butch is fake. I hope that's the case.

Also, noticed a few players liked his IG post. McKenzie and Kelly.

Well, he doesn't have Twitter. It is 100% Butch....NOT fans. Yes, you are overthinking it.

 

[NorCalVol67]

other than the obvious "Rocky Top"....a great dynamic
song for a stage entrance is the first minute of "Right Now" by Van Halen.

Van Halen - Right Now - YouTube

Van Hagar is not Van Halen.

 

[ShowMeThemTD's]

It was a ranch in Jackson hole Wyoming.

Jackson hole, Wyoming is where A certain donor owns a huge ranch.... he's the owner of check into cash and a huge TN booster... he's had coaches at his house several times I know for a fact.... very interesting

 

[Nash_Vol97]

Think we are bad? Guess you haven't visited the Georgia forums lately or the bama forums after the kick 6...

Yup. UGA is 9-1 and just yesterday they were posting about #emptysanford and how emberrasing it was to have Kirby as a coach.

 

[goinuponatuesday]

In reply to what poster Concep has said about the Stalking Horse.


If I understood the "analogy" right, you are saying that Ergen has bought ESPN from Disney with the stipulation that they fire Gruden so that he will be available for TN to hire?


That is a win-win. ESPN has no choice but to love us and we het Gruden. I like this.👍

Espn is worth almost 50 billion. U kidding?

 

[chrrinma]

all of these threads will just give fuel to the notion that our fans are unrealistic. They're an embarrassment!

And we wonder why we are mocked by the rest of the country.

Embarrassment? you, sir, are the one who is an embarrassment. Sure, we might be FANatical at times, but when you tend to settle for the notion that we are being unrealistic, then that's when we hire Butch Jones 2.0. To be unrealistic is what leads to change. Put your blackberry away and go to bed. Make sure you eat your banana and take your meds. The rest of us will be having a Grude night.

 

[ATLVols]

I like Jon Gruden, but I don't think of him as a great coach. His winning percentage is barely over 50 perfect as a coach. I'm sure he'll recruit great, but we saw what a mediocre coach who is a great recruiter can do.

Yes, I'm aware he won a Superbowl. I also know of an national championship ex-coach that we don't want either from the SEC!

Bottom line, I like Gruden to much to want to see him fail here. We need a proven college coach, and he's not that.

Let's move on.

Look at Kelly’s and Saban’s record in the NFL. Gruden is better and he won a Super Bowl. Also, Gruden is known for being a brilliant x’s and o’s guy who can really develop a QB.

 

[{OrangeBlooded}]

Jackson hole, Wyoming is where Allan Jones owns a huge ranch.... he's the owner of check into cash and a huge TN booster... he's had coaches at his house several times I know for a fact.... very interesting

If you can pull the “master bluffer” article in Forbes of 97, it lays the whole deal out and was interesting. But it says not found now for me...but a 02 article “grand Teton cash machine” is about it but doesn’t have near the info of the original. Might be nothing at all but I always thought that article was sorta relevant (master bluffer/pocket aces/ and now stalking horse/bankruptcy.

 

[mrmax86]

Can someone fill me in on who this Beav character is? Sorry been out of the game awhile and want to get caught up

• MIT_Beaver’s VN Profile
• @VolsScotchGolf - His Twitter Page
• [post=14496670]Why MIT_Beaver is Legit[/post]

 

[Hawkpilot]

It was a ranch in Jackson hole Wyoming.

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[Hammer85]

Espn is worth almost 50 billion. U kidding?

Twas a joke my boy. Whats Tee been saying?

 

[ArmyVol697]

It would do you good to do a little research before posting something like this. In case you're not aware NFL records are a tad different than college records. His record is pretty good compared to others. I/E Saban. Here, let me help you out:

NFL win–loss records - Wikipedia

That's whacked! Here's a better source:

Ranking Super Bowl-winning head coaches - Is Bill Belichick of New England Patriots best ever? NFL 2017

 

[ShowMeThemTD's]

If you can pull the “master bluffer” article about Thornton in Forbes of 97, it lays the whole deal out and was interesting. But it says not found now for me...but a 02 article “grand Teton cash machine” is about it but doesn’t have near the info of the original. Might be nothing at all but I always thought that article was sorta relevant (master bluffer/pocket aces/ and now stalking horse/bankruptcy.

It's gone on my browser as well....

 

[FacelessArya]

There is also a strategy called the stalking horse bid that is used to prevent low value bids on assets that belong to distressed companies, typically companies in bankruptcy. The stalking horse bidder will usually be given some incentives to take the risk of putting a fair market bid on the assets, regardless of if they end up being the high bid or not.

Imagine if Disney was considering putting a poor performing division out on the market for sale. Now imagine that the Ergens have agreed to put the initial bid for ESPN at a fair market value as long as Disney agrees to shed some of ESPNs expenses in the form of expensive headcount.

Of course this is all imagination land ish, but now Gruden is finding himself needing a new gig. The Ergens, through a VC, make a deal with the Grude that says that if UT HC position comes available and offered to him then he will sign.

Hi. You are interesting and new. Do you know Beaver? You sound like a personality of his. This sounds so very plausible. Kinda fills in some holes for me.

 

[tha truth]

Someone fill me in please. I’ve been asleep all day because I have too work tonight.

 

[SmokinBob]

I do believe Currie said "Vol Nation at least once today in the press conference. I'd go back to look but it's bedtime.

He did! I think it was in the context of supporting the players but not 100% sure about that.

 

[goinuponatuesday]

Twas a joke my boy. Whats Tee been saying?

OH lol. I was hoping it was a joke haha.

 

[volinSmyrna]

That's whacked! Here's a better source:

Ranking Super Bowl-winning head coaches - Is Bill Belichick of New England Patriots best ever? NFL 2017

Your point? There are only 4 coaches on that list better than him that are still coaching.

 

[volinjackson]

Espn is worth almost 50 billion. U kidding?

Ergen has good credit.

 

[bam025]

Delusions of grandeur

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

That's whacked! Here's a better source:

Ranking Super Bowl-winning head coaches - Is Bill Belichick of New England Patriots best ever? NFL 2017

LMAO!!!!! So much irony here. You just linked a site ranking Super Bowl winning coaches as your proof that he wasn't a great NFL HC. :birgits_giggle:

Here's what it says about him btw:
Gruden built the Raiders into a contender and had them on the verge of going to the Super Bowl. Then Al Davis traded him -- yes, traded him -- to Tampa Bay, where he beat the Raiders in the Super Bowl with a great defense and Brad Johnson as his quarterback.

 

[{OrangeBlooded}]

It was there the first time Beav mentioned pocket aces and I went back to it a few times. Haven’t checked super recently so I don’t know when it went down.