Official Jon Gruden thread 32.

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volfan1631 said:
Or talking about Butch has nothing for the players if they can't do anything for him
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Ding ding ding....we have a winner!!!

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ArmyVol697 said:
I like Jon Gruden, but I don't think of him as a great coach. His winning percentage is barely over 50 perfect as a coach. I'm sure he'll recruit great, but we saw what a mediocre coach who is a great recruiter can do.

Yes, I'm aware he won a Superbowl. I also know of an national championship ex-coach that we don't want either from the SEC!

Bottom line, I like Gruden to much to want to see him fail here. We need a proven college coach, and he's not that.

Let's move on.
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Let's move Butch Jones to the NFL and see what his winning percentage would be.
 
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Concep said:
There is also a strategy called the stalking horse bid that is used to prevent low value bids on assets that belong to distressed companies, typically companies in bankruptcy. The stalking horse bidder will usually be given some incentives to take the risk of putting a fair market bid on the assets, regardless of if they end up being the high bid or not.

Imagine if Disney was considering putting a poor performing division out on the market for sale. Now imagine that the Ergens have agreed to put the initial bid for ESPN at a fair market value as long as Disney agrees to shed some of ESPNs expenses in the form of expensive headcount.

Of course this is all imagination land ish, but now Gruden is finding himself needing a new gig. The Ergens, through a VC, make a deal with the Grude that says that if UT HC position comes available and offered to him then he will sign.
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Hang on a sec...I read an article during the whole Beav thing that was written by Forbes in 97 and about a land purchase that was in bankruptcy. I just went back to reference it and it’s not there anymore (which is really weird), however there is another article that I hadn’t read that sort of rehashes the whole thing. I checked this out during the whole pocket aces thing. Type in Master bluffer Forbes into google and the first one that comes up is the one that is now not there and the second one I briefly scanned from 02. Someone smarter than me tell me if I found something or not.
 
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Let’s put this together. It’s said an active nfl coach is interested and a possibility, if that’s the case then there’s no way to save this recruiting class. They wouldn’t be able to be announced till seasons end. Hard to believe Currie would want to wait on an NFL guy imo. Unless they stepped down to take the job, which would be unprecedented. Which indicates all signs point to Gruden unless he says no. Ball’s in his court now.
 
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all of these threads will just give fuel to the notion that our fans are unrealistic. They're an embarrassment!

And we wonder why we are mocked by the rest of the country.
 
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OldVol said:
all of these threads will just give fuel to the notion that our fans are unrealistic. They're an embarrassment!

And we wonder why we are mocked by the rest of the country.
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hires like butch Jones are why we are mocked by the rest of the country. champions of life...
 
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{OrangeBlooded} said:
Hang on a sec...I read an article during the whole Beav thing that was written by Forbes in 97 about thunder Thornton and how he outbid some dude on land that was in bankruptcy. I just went back to reference it and it’s not there anymore (which is really weird), however there is another article that I hadn’t read that sort of rehashes the whole thing. I checked this out during the whole pocket aces thing. Type in Thunder Thornton Forbes into google and the first one that comes up is the one that is now not there and the second one I briefly scanned from 02. Someone smarter than me tell me if I found something or not.
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I pulled the article up no problem
 
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OldVol said:
all of these threads will just give fuel to the notion that our fans are unrealistic. They're an embarrassment!

And we wonder why we are mocked by the rest of the country.
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The Gruden will be embarrassed that you failed to believe. He may forgive you in time. Now GTFO
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
Your theory I think has credence, but it would be a weird photo choice if that’s what he really meant. A photo of him and Butch hugging or something along those lines would make me think what you said is right, but this photo choice doesn’t seem positive. JMO.
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The photo is causing me to lean towards fans. With Social Media, Twitter would be the place to send a cryptic statement about Butch being fake. Instagram is used to post pictures of things that matter to you in life.

I could be overthinking it and he's just saying Butch is fake. I hope that's the case.

Also, noticed a few players liked his IG post. McKenzie and Kelly.
 
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{OrangeBlooded} said:
Hang on a sec...I read an article during the whole Beav thing that was written by Forbes in 97 about thunder Thornton and how he outbid some dude on land that was in bankruptcy. I just went back to reference it and it’s not there anymore (which is really weird), however there is another article that I hadn’t read that sort of rehashes the whole thing. I checked this out during the whole pocket aces thing. Type in Thunder Thornton Forbes into google and the first one that comes up is the one that is now not there and the second one I briefly scanned from 02. Someone smarter than me tell me if I found something or not.
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Jasper Highlands, Jasper TN.
 
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VolAlum24 said:
The photo is causing me to lean towards fans. With Social Media, Twitter would be the place to send a cryptic statement about Butch being fake. Instagram is used to post pictures of things that matter to you in life.

I could be overthinking it and he's just saying Butch is fake. I hope that's the case.

Also, noticed a few players liked his IG post. McKenzie and Kelly.
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I think it is a picture of him and Jones so people know who he is talking about
 
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Doc_Vol said:
I pulled the article up no problem
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Ok, that’s odd. I’m still getting an error on the 97 article. I thought it had some value at the time reading it based on beav’s cryptic posts but who knows. But then the horse thing and bankruptcy triggered my memory. I don’t know, I’m spitballing and defer to the leaders of the class.
 
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ShowMeThemTD's said:
Just from a leadership point of view to make it look like there hasn't been any deals being discussed with an active coach still leading the program. Just doesn't look good for future coaching candidates... I mean we all know it happens but a search firm would help quiet those "grumors"
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Maybe. Every time we’ve had a search firm, there’s more rumors than ever. Seems pretty quiet on this search comparatively. I know we “just started”, but we know that’s not true.
 
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OldVol said:
all of these threads will just give fuel to the notion that our fans are unrealistic. They're an embarrassment!

And we wonder why we are mocked by the rest of the country.
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How is having hope for a coach that loves Tennessee and was definitely interested in being head coach in 2012 unrealistic?? You’re an embarrassment!! Oh yeah, one last thing.....GTFO!!
 
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VolAlum24 said:
The photo is causing me to lean towards fans. With Social Media, Twitter would be the place to send a cryptic statement about Butch being fake. Instagram is used to post pictures of things that matter to you in life.

I could be overthinking it and he's just saying Butch is fake. I hope that's the case.

Also, noticed a few players liked his IG post. McKenzie and Kelly.
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If it's toward the fans why wait till after he's fired before posting it? He could have posted the last 5 weeks when we were all ready to run butch out of town.
 
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OldVol said:
all of these threads will just give fuel to the notion that our fans are unrealistic. They're an embarrassment!

And we wonder why we are mocked by the rest of the country.
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If people are coming onto Tennessee forums to cast judgement on Tennessee fans, that's the embarrassment.

EDIT: Forgot...
GTFO
 
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VolAlum24 said:
The photo is causing me to lean towards fans. With Social Media, Twitter would be the place to send a cryptic statement about Butch being fake. Instagram is used to post pictures of things that matter to you in life.

I could be overthinking it and he's just saying Butch is fake. I hope that's the case.

Also, noticed a few players liked his IG post. McKenzie and Kelly.
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You done overthunk it
 
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VolAlum24 said:
The photo is causing me to lean towards fans. With Social Media, Twitter would be the place to send a cryptic statement about Butch being fake. Instagram is used to post pictures of things that matter to you in life.

I could be overthinking it and he's just saying Butch is fake. I hope that's the case.

Also, noticed a few players liked his IG post. McKenzie and Kelly.
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Your first paragraph screams overthinking it.
 
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