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'Boro-vol said:
we've only had a job opening for a week, and the season isn't over. Compare it to any other coaching search you've seen and see how it stacks up. It doesn't.
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This.

Geez. Florida fired Mac before we fired Butch. Who'd they hire?
 
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UTK said:
What has he even said about the situation exactly?
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The last thing he said, that I saw, was basically telling people to stop chasing planes and to relax. Also that Gruden wasn't at Calhouns. He said that there is a sense of urgency to get things done and we also had a plan B. It meant more the way he said it all, but nothing gave me the indication that Gruden has said yes or no.
 
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TuxedoVol said:
I still believe!

And BC, I don't post much either for some of the same reasons you mentioned. Hard for me to contribute with some of the negativity that comes out on a message board, especially when I don't have much specific info to share. This particular thread has been my favorite since joining VolNation, however, cause there are some good folks in here and real conversation at times, not to mention a lot of uplifting moments like AV giving away tickets, people genuinely worried about Charlie, or others helping some maybe find employment.

I was not on any message boards in 2012, just talked to those around me. When I first stumbled upon the resurection of Gruden threads this time, I truly had no idea what I was getting myself into. But I quickly became hooked.

Through the highs and lows of this roller coaster ride we are all on, I have found that I am adjusting to the chaos of Grudenmania better than I would have imagined. I have to step away from the thread occassionally (apart from work and sleep) to clear my head, but I keep coming back. This season has sucked, but hope for the future, via this thread, has salvaged some of what I have missed most during the beloved college football season this year . . . the camaraderie of Vol fans on game days.

It is easier to believe we will continue to be mediocre with the outcome of this coaching search, but much more fulfilling, at least for me, to dream big. I am learning to keep the faith even without instant gratification. Good life lesson in that, probably for many of us, if we really think about it.

Gruden to the Hill for me until someone else is named!

Hope everyone has a blessed day!
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To quote a country song "I am here for the Party!" LOL

I am not going to bash anyone, say their beliefs are stupid or use any abbreviations for vulgar slams like some. Just want to join in because, regardless, this is the most entertaining thread in VN history and has passed 2012 and is about to lap it!
 
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rocketskates said:
Yesterday on Sports Source Jimmy said he's tired of "dealing with all this bull" regarding Gruden. He was fired up and I thought he wasn't gonna just say Bull lol.
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I love the entitlement.

Jimmy, you are a sports journalist. You provide a service to your audience. They don't owe you any deference as to what YOU would like to cover.
 
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bcartervol98 said:
What he has done there is really staggering. I do not have time to look up the stats but comparing his tenure at State vs. the previous years is eye opening. I read it somewhere not on the forum and not on SDS or any other hack sites. Was on ESPN or something. More 8 win seasons than from 1992 till he started or something like that. All from a school that recruits against and plays Alabama, Auburn, LSU and the rest of the West every year.

I understand the lack of excitement when compared to hiring Gruden but the total lack of respect for what he has done at State and what he could bring here is something I have a hard time understanding.

I am not saying he is a "done deal" by any means but in my mind he is one of the top 3 favorites in terms of "attainability and ability" and has the skills necessary to win here.
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Spot on.
 
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UTK said:
False
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To each his own. It will be a poor hire if it happens.

The good news is that it looks like MSU may do us a favor.

Leave Gruden out of it. Mullen has a losing SEC record...that alone should disqualify him from consideration this time.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
Praying MSU gives him everything he desires plus 10%.

He'll be an unmitigated disappointment here within 2 years.
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MSU= low expectations, more relaxed culture, out of the national spotlight

Tennessee is the exact opposite.

Look at Jones. Guy aged 20 years here. It's not for the faint of heart, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I think Mullen does well because he doesn't have to deal with so much off-the-field stuff: politicking, contentious boosters, expectations of a top 10 recruiting class. As soon as you put him in a pressure cooker like Tennessee, very very few coaches can handle it. I think that's why Charlie Strong burned out at Texas, and I think Mullen would see a similar fate.
 
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The list is long of somewhat realistic coaches I would rather have than Mullen:

1. Patterson
2. Kiffin
3. Fuente
4. Frost
5. Taggart
6. Campbell
7. Cut
8. Strong

**Gruden obviously
**I Do Noy want Mullen
 
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What if a caveat of the entire deal was to help get Mullen a raise? If Currie has, and has had his man (Gruden or not), then maybe a certain booster said "Fine, get your guy, but one of these (insert list of Jimmy Sexton's clients) gets an interview and enough talk to get a raise if they are not getting the job." That would make Jimmy Sexton happy which would in turn make Haslam happy I am sure. Just an interesting thought...
 
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UTVolinExile said:
Phenomenal post. I hope everyone reads this and buys in. Even if I did not know what I know, this is the boat I would be in. This logical analysis, coupled with what I believe to be true, is why I'm not budging an inch on Gruden to the Hill.
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This a 1,000 times. R-E-L-A-X, we got this. First time I've posted it this way;

Very soon
 
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VolPenn said:
MSU= low expectations, more relaxed culture, out of the national spotlight

Tennessee is the exact opposite.

Look at Jones. Guy aged 20 years here. It's not for the feint of heart, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I think Mullen does well because he doesn't have to deal with so much off-the-field stuff: politicking, contentious boosters, expectations of a top 10 recruiting class. As soon as you put him in a pressure cooker like Tennessee, very very few coaches can handle it. I think that's why Charlie Strong burned out at Texas, and I think Mullen would see a similar fate.
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Jones aged so quickly because even he knew that this job was way out of his league.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
I don't have any Gruden info....haven't heard anything that changes my mind, or casts a shadow on anything. Things are very quiet...everybody on lockdown. I'm still relaxed.

Everybody needs to remember this wouldn't be like hiring Coach Joe B. Nobody from East Central State College. There are way more variables and moving parts. You're literally trying to hire a rockstar, we've only had a job opening for a week, and the season isn't over. Compare it to any other coaching search you've seen and see how it stacks up. It doesn't.
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This is the thing^! Really don't expect announcement till season Over! JMO


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robbymoore94 said:
What if a caveat of the entire deal was to help get Mullen a raise? If Currie has, and has had his man (Gruden or not), then maybe a certain booster said "Fine, get your guy, but one of these (insert list of Jimmy Sexton's clients) gets an interview and enough talk to get a raise if they are not getting the job." That would make Jimmy Sexton happy which would in turn make Haslam happy I am sure. Just an interesting thought...
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Gets done all the time...names get floated for this very purpose.
 
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bcartervol98 said:
What he has done there is really staggering. I do not have time to look up the stats but comparing his tenure at State vs. the previous years is eye opening. I read it somewhere not on the forum and not on SDS or any other hack sites. Was on ESPN or something. More 8 win seasons than from 1992 till he started or something like that. All from a school that recruits against and plays Alabama, Auburn, LSU and the rest of the West every year.

I understand the lack of excitement when compared to hiring Gruden but the total lack of respect for what he has done at State and what he could bring here is something I have a hard time understanding.

I am not saying he is a "done deal" by any means but in my mind he is one of the top 3 favorites in terms of "attainability and ability" and has the skills necessary to win here.
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I totally respect what he's done at state - for state. I have several friends who are state fans and they are totally happy with 8 win seasons and knowing occasionally they will have more based on talent level of the year.

This ain't that.

Even they understand the pressure cooker that is top level power 5 conference coaching and have said that he ain't that guy.
 
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I am spending my Monday morning imagining how many turkey wishbones on Vol fans tables will be broken and sacrificed in the name of Jon Gruden. Happy Thanksgiving! You guys are the best fans in the world!!!!
 
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