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Carl Pickens said:
Same thing happened to my 2015 about a year and a half ago. $2,300. It’s now my daughter’s car and has 215k on it. $2,300 really sucked, but it doesn’t burn any oil or have any leaks
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Absolutely criminal to relocate the water pump inside the engine like that. I bet right to repair laws could probably win a suit on that crap. I am a Ford guy when it comes to American vehicles, though Ive had 2 good Dodge trucks which I put a combined 400k plus miles on. So i am definitely not anti Ford...but this is BS man. I have changed water pumps on everything from full size trucks and vans to Honda civics. Its usually not a big deal for anyone who likes to turn wrenches on their own. Couple hour job maybe by the time you have the belt back on and fluids filled up etc. Water pumps have a finite life span and its way less than the 200k+ miles most of us need to get out of a vehicle we have invested 10s of thousands of dollars in. To make it a couple thousand dollar job to replace the pump is craptacular. No bueno. Bastards. Her transmission started hesitating just a little and they quoted us $9k for a rebuilt transmission. I checked the fluid and it was pretty dirty again so I am gonna change it. Which is also BS. The transmission holds 15 quarts of fluid. The most that will drain is 5qts at a time. So i have to change 5qts...run it for a while. Change 5 more....same. then change 5 qts the last time but that wont actually give me clean fluid due to the process. I am thinking it will replace about 75% of the actual old fluid with new but didnt do the equation to actually nail that down. PITA. Also, its AWD so the dipstick under the hood wont keep you from overfill. You have to get underneath each time and remove a bolt in the side of the trabsmission itself. When the fluid running out slows to a trickle it is supppsed to be at equilibrium. Having too much fluid in a transmission will grenade it. Having a transmission FLUSHED will destroy it too. The only way to change fluid without damage in my experience is to carefully drain and fill. This needs to be done regularly. At least every 50k miles on most vehicles. Fortunately my little civic is a manual so i dont have to worry about that. Hell my power steering pump has been out for more than a year and i just roll with it. Its a pain in the butt to change and i really dont need it in that little car lmao. Ive got enough to do between the wife's explorer and daughters Xterra. Both are AWD/4WD and have been good trucks though.
 
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hog88 said:
That’s what they said about TX and TA&M
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The SEC/Big Ten is waiting for the 2030 deadline for ACC

The SEC will take North Carolina and Virginia next (or add on Va Tech and NC State) to get to 20 if need be. Clemson may be chosen over Va Tech if UVA can come without them.

The Big Ten will go after Florida St/Notre Dame; if ND says no they will likely choose Miami or Stanford

If the Big Ten or SEC goes to 24, the SEC will look at the Clemson/VT that doesn't come in 2030, and likely Ga Tech (if they choose SEC over Big Ten), Duke and Kansas

if Ga Tech chooses Big Ten, then teams like WVU, Louisville, Texas tech, Oklahoma State get looked at but I doubt any Southern school turns down an SEC invite
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Absolutely criminal to relocate the water pump inside the engine like that. I bet right to repair laws could probably win a suit on that crap. I am a Ford guy when it comes to American vehicles, though Ive had 2 good Dodge trucks which I put a combined 400k plus miles on. So i am definitely not anti Ford...but this is BS man. I have changed water pumps on everything from full size trucks and vans to Honda civics. Its usually not a big deal for anyone who likes to turn wrenches on their own. Couple hour job maybe by the time you have the belt back on and fluids filled up etc. Water pumps have a finite life span and its way less than the 200k+ miles most of us need to get out of a vehicle we have invested 10s of thousands of dollars in. To make it a couple thousand dollar job to replace the pump is craptacular. No bueno. Bastards. Her transmission started hesitating just a little and they quoted us $9k for a rebuilt transmission. I checked the fluid and it was pretty dirty again so I am gonna change it. Which is also BS. The transmission holds 15 quarts of fluid. The most that will drain is 5qts at a time. So i have to change 5qts...run it for a while. Change 5 more....same. then change 5 qts the last time but that wont actually give me clean fluid due to the process. I am thinking it will replace about 75% of the actual old fluid with new but didnt do the equation to actually nail that down. PITA. Also, its AWD so the dipstick under the hood wont keep you from overfill. You have to get underneath each time and remove a bolt in the side of the trabsmission itself. When the fluid running out slows to a trickle it is supppsed to be at equilibrium. Having too much fluid in a transmission will grenade it. Having a transmission FLUSHED will destroy it too. The only way to change fluid without damage in my experience is to carefully drain and fill. This needs to be done regularly. At least every 50k miles on most vehicles. Fortunately my little civic is a manual so i dont have to worry about that. Hell my power steering pump has been out for more than a year and i just roll with it. Its a pain in the butt to change and i really dont need it in that little car lmao. Ive got enough to do between the wife's explorer and daughters Xterra. Both are AWD/4WD and have been good trucks though.
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I know what you mean. It’s crazy the way things are designed these days.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Absolutely criminal to relocate the water pump inside the engine like that. I bet right to repair laws could probably win a suit on that crap. I am a Ford guy when it comes to American vehicles, though Ive had 2 good Dodge trucks which I put a combined 400k plus miles on. So i am definitely not anti Ford...but this is BS man. I have changed water pumps on everything from full size trucks and vans to Honda civics. Its usually not a big deal for anyone who likes to turn wrenches on their own. Couple hour job maybe by the time you have the belt back on and fluids filled up etc. Water pumps have a finite life span and its way less than the 200k+ miles most of us need to get out of a vehicle we have invested 10s of thousands of dollars in. To make it a couple thousand dollar job to replace the pump is craptacular. No bueno. Bastards. Her transmission started hesitating just a little and they quoted us $9k for a rebuilt transmission. I checked the fluid and it was pretty dirty again so I am gonna change it. Which is also BS. The transmission holds 15 quarts of fluid. The most that will drain is 5qts at a time. So i have to change 5qts...run it for a while. Change 5 more....same. then change 5 qts the last time but that wont actually give me clean fluid due to the process. I am thinking it will replace about 75% of the actual old fluid with new but didnt do the equation to actually nail that down. PITA. Also, its AWD so the dipstick under the hood wont keep you from overfill. You have to get underneath each time and remove a bolt in the side of the trabsmission itself. When the fluid running out slows to a trickle it is supppsed to be at equilibrium. Having too much fluid in a transmission will grenade it. Having a transmission FLUSHED will destroy it too. The only way to change fluid without damage in my experience is to carefully drain and fill. This needs to be done regularly. At least every 50k miles on most vehicles. Fortunately my little civic is a manual so i dont have to worry about that. Hell my power steering pump has been out for more than a year and i just roll with it. Its a pain in the butt to change and i really dont need it in that little car lmao. Ive got enough to do between the wife's explorer and daughters Xterra. Both are AWD/4WD and have been good trucks though.
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Unfortunately, the design criteria has maintenance/repair/replacement way down on the list. Fuel efficiency behind low cost of manufacture and meeting (not exceeding) warranty commitment is all that matters. Car manufacturers view owner repair as unicorns.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
if Ga Tech chooses Big Ten, then teams like WVU, Louisville, Texas tech, Oklahoma State get looked at but I doubt any Southern school turns down an SEC invite
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At this point, I don't think any conference is looking at TV markets any longer. I honestly think that's an argument that doesn't hold water when it comes to brand recognition and following. I think with streaming services and providers like Fubo you aren't going to get the traditional Big 4 network markets like you saw in the past. Fans are worldwide now and aren't limited geographically like before.

Also, most cable providers offer multiple conference channels as part of packages without leaning to one or the other. Cox Communications here in OK offered the B1G, Big 12, SEC, Longhorn and Pac-12 networks as a package deal even when OU was deep in the Big 12. You couldn't pick just the SEC Network for example. You got one or none.

So, I'm not of the mind these "television market footprint" arguments hold water these days since the demand for college sports is global. Now, into teams...

WVU makes more sense in the SEC than it ever did in the Big 12, but doesn't make sense in either really when they were invited. They just aren't big enough for the conference. They're okay in the Big 12 now they've become a Super G5 conference (and you'll never convince me otherwise) but not as prime time.

Louisville might be looked at. Doubtful they get the invite as they just aren't flashy like the OU and Texas joins were. (Of course, neither was Missouri at the time either). Plus I think they have more in common with Big 10 teams than the SEC.

OKST is laughable. They bring nothing except wrestling to the conference. Plus, their HC is making himself a laughing stock right now. They don't have the money, following, athletic prowess or history to join. It's like MSST though MSST gets the nod because they've been SEC since the start. Same thing with Texas Tech, though less laughable than OKST thinking they deserve an invite and with the way they threw a tantrum after not getting picked. At least Tech knows their place.

There isn't anyone else in the Big 12 except maybe Kansas that deserves a look. And I'm not sure Kansas does either. Though I will admit, UCF does present an interesting newcomer idea, though really too new for the SEC.

On the ACC side, which is where the next picks will likely come from, GA Tech does have the historical roots to come back, but I don't know if the SEC wants them. They don't offer much except the academic side like Missouri did.

UNC does fit the bill to join... maybe Duke as well, but Duke is a stretch. There's money in both though. UNC does have the national following in MBB as does Duke. Duke has money and prestige. They bring the about the same level as Vandy to the conference but with a way better basketball program.

Miami and FSU do have the history and pedigree to join. Clemson likely has more on common with the SEC than any other conference. I think at least two of the three would be good bets to get an invite if the SEC goes to 20. Money would be on FSU and Clemson.

In not sure any Virginia team really fits the culture of the SEC. VA Tech is kinda in the same boat as Duke money wise, but they can't point to any program sustaining long term success in any sport. Same with UVA to an extent, but they can at least draw on some historical success in MBB. But neither really has a rabid following.

Notre Dame would be an easy pick, but they have far more in common with the B1G than the SEC.

Nobody in the remains of the Pac-12 would be worth going after.

The only B1G teams that add anything at this point to the SEC would have been Oregon and Washington. Oregon really could have added value to the SEC. The rest of the B1G is pretty entrenched.

The only remaining G5 teams that might offer anything would be one of the military academics. There's prestige in having one on board, but they don't offer anything except a guaranteed W on the schedule. Kinda like Vandy or MSST except a few years here and there.

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Grand Vol said:
At this point, I don't think any conference is looking at TV markets any longer. I honestly think that's an argument that doesn't hold water when it comes to brand recognition and following. I think with streaming services and providers like Fubo you aren't going to get the traditional Big 4 network markets like you saw in the past. Fans are worldwide now and aren't limited geographically like before.

Also, most cable providers offer multiple conference channels as part of packages without leaning to one or the other. Cox Communications here in OK offered the B1G, Big 12, SEC, Longhorn and Pac-12 networks as a package deal even when OU was deep in the Big 12. You couldn't pick just the SEC Network for example. You got one or none.

So, I'm not of the mind these "television market footprint" arguments hold water these days since the demand for college sports is global. Now, into teams...

WVU makes more sense in the SEC than it ever did in the Big 12, but doesn't make sense in either really when they were invited. They just aren't big enough for the conference. They're okay in the Big 12 now they've become a Super G5 conference (and you'll never convince me otherwise) but not as prime time.

Louisville might be looked at. Doubtful they get the invite as they just aren't flashy like the OU and Texas joins were. (Of course, neither was Missouri at the time either). Plus I think they have more in common with Big 10 teams than the SEC.

OKST is laughable. They bring nothing except wrestling to the conference. Plus, their HC is making himself a laughing stock right now. They don't have the money, following, athletic prowess or history to join. It's like MSST though MSST gets the nod because they've been SEC since the start. Same thing with Texas Tech, though less laughable than OKST thinking they deserve an invite and with the way they threw a tantrum after not getting picked. At least Tech knows their place.

There isn't anyone else in the Big 12 except maybe Kansas that deserves a look. And I'm not sure Kansas does either. Though I will admit, UCF does present an interesting newcomer idea, though really too new for the SEC.

On the ACC side, which is where the next picks will likely come from, GA Tech does have the historical roots to come back, but I don't know if the SEC wants them. They don't offer much except the academic side like Missouri did.

UNC does fit the bill to join... maybe Duke as well, but Duke is a stretch. There's money in both though. UNC does have the national following in MBB as does Duke. Duke has money and prestige. They bring the about the same level as Vandy to the conference but with a way better basketball program.

Miami and FSU do have the history and pedigree to join. Clemson likely has more on common with the SEC than any other conference. I think at least two of the three would be good bets to get an invite if the SEC goes to 20. Money would be on FSU and Clemson.

In not sure any Virginia team really fits the culture of the SEC. VA Tech is kinda in the same boat as Duke money wise, but they can't point to any program sustaining long term success in any sport. Same with UVA to an extent, but they can at least draw on some historical success in MBB. But neither really has a rabid following.

Notre Dame would be an easy pick, but they have far more in common with the B1G than the SEC.

Nobody in the remains of the Pac-12 would be worth going after.

The only B1G teams that add anything at this point to the SEC would have been Oregon and Washington. Oregon really could have added value to the SEC. The rest of the B1G is pretty entrenched.

The only remaining G5 teams that might offer anything would be one of the military academics. There's prestige in having one on board, but they don't offer anything except a guaranteed W on the schedule. Kinda like Vandy or MSST except a few years here and there.

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the SEC will take UNC and UVA no matter what happens..... I promise you that...the only question is whether NC State or Duke and Va. Tech are stuck along with the ride as well..

NC and VA have been the top priority of Sankey and the SEC officials....They want those states bad (as does the Big Ten) and he wants to keep them in house.

WVU and Louisville like Miami, made sense in 1990 to be finalists for SEC expansion, but now only as a needed 24th team much like Mizzou was a needed 14th team and the easiest to get at the time. I only threw them and Oklahoma St in as last choices if the big ten happened to raid the other schools the SEC wanted and no one was left.

There is no shot UCF would even be looked at, that is laughable....Kansas makes sense because of basketball brand and a new state with the former Big 12 teams.

Duke again would be if needed to get to 24, basketball adding Duke, Kansas, UNC would be cornerstone for the SEC

Miami has literally no shot at the SEC, the Big Ten will take them (esp if they get a FSU or GT), or if Big Ten stands pat at 20 then they go to the Big XII

FSU wants the Big Ten, the SEC doesn't need them or particularly want them

Ga Tech is the intriguing one because like UNC and UVA the SEC and Big Ten both would probably take them, but they would likely choose the SEC if they went to 24 for obvious reasons


Clemson is attractive and will go to the SEC if we expand past 18-20
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
the SEC will take UNC and UVA no matter what happens..... I promise you that...the only question is whether NC State or Duke and Va. Tech are stuck along with the ride as well..

NC and VA have been the top priority of Sankey and the SEC officials....They want those states bad (as does the Big Ten) and he wants to keep them in house.

WVU and Louisville like Miami, made sense in 1990 to be finalists for SEC expansion, but now only as a needed 24th team much like Mizzou was a needed 14th team and the easiest to get at the time. I only threw them and Oklahoma St in as last choices if the big ten happened to raid the other schools the SEC wanted and no one was left.

There is no shot UCF would even be looked at, that is laughable....Kansas makes sense because of basketball brand and a new state with the former Big 12 teams.

Duke again would be if needed to get to 24, basketball adding Duke, Kansas, UNC would be cornerstone for the SEC

Miami has literally no shot at the SEC, the Big Ten will take them (esp if they get a FSU or GT), or if Big Ten stands pat at 20 then they go to the Big XII

FSU wants the Big Ten, the SEC doesn't need them or particularly want them

Ga Tech is the intriguing one because like UNC and UVA the SEC and Big Ten both would probably take them, but they would likely choose the SEC if they went to 24 for obvious reasons


Clemson is attractive and will go to the SEC if we expand past 18-20
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Bringing in UVA would be a bigger mistake than when we took in Mizzu.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
the SEC will take UNC and UVA no matter what happens..... I promise you that...the only question is whether NC State or Duke and Va. Tech are stuck along with the ride as well..

NC and VA have been the top priority of Sankey and the SEC officials....They want those states bad (as does the Big Ten) and he wants to keep them in house.

WVU and Louisville like Miami, made sense in 1990 to be finalists for SEC expansion, but now only as a needed 24th team much like Mizzou was a needed 14th team and the easiest to get at the time. I only threw them and Oklahoma St in as last choices if the big ten happened to raid the other schools the SEC wanted and no one was left.

There is no shot UCF would even be looked at, that is laughable....Kansas makes sense because of basketball brand and a new state with the former Big 12 teams.

Duke again would be if needed to get to 24, basketball adding Duke, Kansas, UNC would be cornerstone for the SEC

Miami has literally no shot at the SEC, the Big Ten will take them (esp if they get a FSU or GT), or if Big Ten stands pat at 20 then they go to the Big XII

FSU wants the Big Ten, the SEC doesn't need them or particularly want them

Ga Tech is the intriguing one because like UNC and UVA the SEC and Big Ten both would probably take them, but they would likely choose the SEC if they went to 24 for obvious reasons


Clemson is attractive and will go to the SEC if we expand past 18-20
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I put UCF as almost a tongue in cheek, but they have done pretty well since they started. But since we went in and stole their HFC and AD, I'm not sure they can sustain any advantage they once had. But... there is that chance if they got the right coaches and played the NIL cards right especially in Florida and Georgia with recruiting.

UNC makes sense in the SEC, but NCST and Wake do not. MBB is big, but if you start talking which teams "just mean more" Duke stands with UNC easily. The other two are like the little brothers that want to tag along and get pitches thrown at their heads in the sandlot game.

Virginia, VA Tech do not "mean more." In fact, I'd argue VA Tech has more brand recognition than UVA. I get that Virginia has markets to exploit, but not as much as people think. Again, that's a Missouri level team in my opinion. "Oh, that's right, Virginia and Missouri are part of the SEC... I forgot." Kind of like Indiana, Nebraska and Illinois are to the B1G. "Oh... yeah... the homecoming game teams..."

Let the B1G have them. They don't offer "more" than Miami, Clemson or FSU. And those three at least are in the historical footprint of the SEC.

I think FSU, again, has more to offer especially if they ever got the Seminole Tribe on board with the NIL program (unlikely, but possibly). UF would hate the move, but it does lock down two of the three biggest universities in the state into the SEC and the rich recruiting grounds they have. More or less the same thing the SEC did with Texas and ATM.

Miami is a wild card. I think people would be okay with it as they are a recognized brand... but they have fallen off since the powerful "U" days. I think they could being about the same hype and success as Auburn, USCe or Arkansas. Solid teams from time to time, but unlikely to ever challenge for the top dog spot.

Agree on Clemson. I don't think it's if, but rather when.

Again, nobody in the Big 12 worth mentioning that's SEC level. A couple of the B1G teams that would add value (Oregon and Washington) but they're probably pretty happy with the B1G network deals and they just moved, so, doubtful they'd want to move again.

No G5 teams in the mix honestly. And I'm still waiting on Washington State and Oregon State to drop to the MWC. I think that's a "when" not an if as well. Maybe... just maybe a Big 12 invite, but that'll just mean they're grasping more than they have already.

I could see the B1G and SEC settling at 20 teams apiece and calling it good. Just who is the big question.
 
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