Official Global Warming thread (merged)

#154
#154
I should state that I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO DATA ON THIS, but my spider sense suggests a phenomenon like global heating, which warms the poles far more than the tropics, will add a lot of additional moisture in the polar regions, and these late winter blasts may be a product of the next couple of decades or so.

I have heard the UK is looking at this right now, and the Hadley Centre will be reporting on the possibility in the near future. Regardless, it is difficult to link any one event to the heating of the climate which is now "unequivocal" by even the most conservative scientific assessment.
 
#155
#155
utgibbs said:
I should state that I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO DATA ON THIS, but my spider sense suggests a phenomenon like global heating, which warms the poles far more than the tropics, will add a lot of additional moisture in the polar regions, and these late winter blasts may be a product of the next couple of decades or so.

I have heard the UK is looking at this right now, and the Hadley Centre will be reporting on the possibility in the near future. Regardless, it is difficult to link any one event to the heating of the climate which is now "unequivocal" by even the most conservative scientific assessment.
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:eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol:
 
#156
#156
So global heating will add moisture at the poles? So does this moisture force the cold air south? Gee I always thought that when you mixed cold air and moisture you got ice and snow? My local weatherman must lie!
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#157
#157
overseasorange2 said:
:eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol:
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Not my words, overseasorange2.

The words of the most conservative scientific assessment of the phenomenon on the planet: the IPCC.

"Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now
evident from observations of increases in global average
air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow
and ice and rising global average sea level (Figure 1.1)."

Fourth Assessment Report, Synthesis Report, p30
 
#158
#158
Funny i haven't seen any of those commercials with a lone polar bear floating on a single piece of ice lately. Al hasn't been making any public appearances lately that i know about either, hmmm.
 
#159
#159
utgibbs said:
Not my words, overseasorange2.

The words of the most conservative scientific assessment of the phenomenon on the planet: the IPCC.

"Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now
evident from observations of increases in global average
air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow
and ice and rising global average sea level (Figure 1.1)."

Fourth Assessment Report, Synthesis Report, p30
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Is there a point to the unequivocal highlight? Does this constitute "proof" in your world? Surely you're not trying to link proof of causality? Nevermind, you'll do that later as a prelude to an inverted woodshed visit.
 
#160
#160
BigPapaVol said:
Is there a point to the unequivocal highlight? Does this constitute "proof" in your world? Surely you're not trying to link proof of causality? Nevermind, you'll do that later as a prelude to an inverted woodshed visit.
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Oh, I don't need the IPCC community to tell me the climate has changed. I can see it with my own eyes outside the back door.

Besides, I still have some attachment to Clarksville, TN - a city on the front line of climate change given the last decade.

The IPCC assessment and the evidence of your own eyes and experience certainly constitutes proof to the sane members of the population.
 
#165
#165
Oldvol75 said:
So global heating will add moisture at the poles? So does this moisture force the cold air south? Gee I always thought that when you mixed cold air and moisture you got ice and snow? My local weatherman must lie!
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He kind of did, I guess. Cold air is typically dry. It's actually warm moist air forced aloft with colder surface conditions that form snow. If you have cold air coming down, somewhere you have warm air going up. This is what is called a "mid latitude cyclone" and it what drives the weather for much of the United States. A destabilized climate pattern leads to more winter storm events, thus more snow.

Hence "climate change" as people don't understand that "global warming" doesn't mean everywhere will be warmer all the time.


I love how everyone has an opinion on the weather, despite not understanding how it works.
 
#167
#167
50-ish and rain here in Portland.

I guess only blue states are getting global warming, the red states are all freezing their butts off.

I guess hell is finally freezing over? :)
 
#168
#168
Another reference to Gibbs looking out his magical backdoor.

I continually wonder what Gibbs back yard looks like, other than the piles of gorilla droppings of course.
 
#170
#170
volinbham said:
Another reference to Gibbs looking out his magical backdoor.

I continually wonder what Gibbs back yard looks like, other than the piles of gorilla droppings of course.
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I've always assumed he's got a storage shed where he keeps all his "data" since there's not enough room in his house.
 
#173
#173
volinbham said:
Another reference to Gibbs looking out his magical backdoor.

I continually wonder what Gibbs back yard looks like, other than the piles of gorilla droppings of course.
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Ah, you see. It's not a magical back door. It's the back door leading out to the real world. I know I harp on it, but the real world is very important. Ideology doesn't really matter when the 800lbs gorilla in the real world starts throwing folks out of the duck blind.

It is not what you don't know that get's you in trouble; it's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
 
#174
#174
BigPapaVol said:
Is there a point to the unequivocal highlight? Does this constitute "proof" in your world? Surely you're not trying to link proof of causality? Nevermind, you'll do that later as a prelude to an inverted woodshed visit.
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Sorry, I thought Unequivocal = no doubt....Which I have.:hi:
 
#175
#175
overseasorange2 said:
Sorry, I thought Unequivocal = no doubt....Which I have.:hi:
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again, why the point? I wasn't asking what the word actually means. I don't think anyone is arguing that temperatures are on the rise, however minutely that might be. The real question is about causation, which his comments have nothing to do with.
 
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