Official Global Warming thread (merged)

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Sandvol said:
May or may not but it is.
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#5,205
BartW said:
California Drought Is Worsened by Global Warming, Scientists Say
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Here's one that says floods will be worse with climate change:

River floods - Italy - Climate Adaptation

Here's one that says blizzards are worse:

Global warming could make blizzards worse - The Washington Post

It's the ultimate boogeyman. Too hot, too cold, too wet, too dry, too windy, too smelly, too sunny, too smoggy, more floods, more drought, better crops, worse crops, pretty women, ugly women, stupid kids, smart kids, sunspots, meteor impacts, black holes......CLIMATE CHANGE IS THE CULPRIT.
 
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I was making wise cracks in my earlier post. But all humor should have an element of truth. I began typing in all sorts of calamitous events followed by "worsened by global warming". Here's a sampling.

Bad hair days, alter male/female ratios: Climate Change can efffect about anything | Orange Power

Extinction of Gingers in Scotland: Redheads could become extinct in Scotland as the country warms up because of climate change | Daily Mail Online

Infant and maternal mortality: Climate change and the potential effects on maternal and pregnancy outcomes: an assessment of the most vulnerable--the mother, fetus, and newborn c... - PubMed - NCBI

More pollen: Climate Change Threatens Health: California

Drinking water: Climate Impacts on Human Health | Climate Change | US EPA

Epidemics: Deadly by the Dozen: 12 Diseases Climate Change May Worsen - Scientific American

Skin cancer: Climate change might lead to more skin cancer, says study | GlobalPost
 
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MaxamusXIII said:
Here's my thing.
The science guys who I know personally say that man made climate change is insignificant. A point was made to me today that outside of the climate scientists nobody is freaking out. Why is that? Most likely because they know nothing is going to happen.

I'm all for ending pollution. I make part of my living building solar systems. I spend some of my time cleaning up trout streams. These are things that actually help. Tell me you want to stop acid rain, I can get behind that. But to ask me to buy into something nobody else believes is a problem and the industry guys have a history of faking their data......I'll pass
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I'd like the opportunity to discuss it with any "science guys" who think it is insignificant.

By "nobody else," you mean "nobody else besides people in the relevant fields?" Gee.

What history of faking data?
 
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McDad said:
I was making wise cracks in my earlier post. But all humor should have an element of truth. I began typing in all sorts of calamitous events followed by "worsened by global warming". Here's a sampling.

Bad hair days, alter male/female ratios: Climate Change can efffect about anything | Orange Power

Extinction of Gingers in Scotland: Redheads could become extinct in Scotland as the country warms up because of climate change | Daily Mail Online

Infant and maternal mortality: Climate change and the potential effects on maternal and pregnancy outcomes: an assessment of the most vulnerable--the mother, fetus, and newborn c... - PubMed - NCBI

More pollen: Climate Change Threatens Health: California

Drinking water: Climate Impacts on Human Health | Climate Change | US EPA

Epidemics: Deadly by the Dozen: 12 Diseases Climate Change May Worsen - Scientific American

Skin cancer: Climate change might lead to more skin cancer, says study | GlobalPost
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Two camps:

A. Global warming is caused by the build-up of anthropogenic greenhouse gasses and has an impact on a wide variety of things.

B. Global warming isn't real for many independent and sometimes contradictory reasons, but at the same time no one denies it is real and it is really a good thing and thus we should continue warming the planet, but the warming is really natural anyway because humans can't alter climate.

I think the position with logical fallacies is obvious.
 
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Mtntrout said:
Two camps:

A. Global warming is caused by the build-up of anthropogenic greenhouse gasses and has an impact on a wide variety of things.

B. Global warming isn't real for many independent and sometimes contradictory reasons, but at the same time no one denies it is real and it is really a good thing and thus we should continue warming the planet, but the warming is really natural anyway because humans can't alter climate.

I think the position with logical fallacies is obvious.
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I'm no longer debating the position. I'm making fun of the myriad of horrific things people (even scientific type publications) ascribe to global warming.

Especially amusing is droughts (Bart posted that one) and floods / higher precipitation amounts. Lulz.
 
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Mtntrout said:
Right, because linking temperature and atmospheric energy to precipitation patterns is just so outlandish.
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It kinda is, isn't it?

Droughts in Cali. Floods on the Mississippi. Blizzards in the Rockies. Heat waves in the Northeast. Ginger extinction in Scotland. Male/female altered ratios.

It's hysterical that so many contradictory outcomes have their genesis in global warming...or cooling...or climate change.

Surely, we can have share a chuckle together over the absurdity of it all.
 
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McDad said:
Here's one that says floods will be worse with climate change:

River floods - Italy - Climate Adaptation

Here's one that says blizzards are worse:

Global warming could make blizzards worse - The Washington Post

It's the ultimate boogeyman. Too hot, too cold, too wet, too dry, too windy, too smelly, too sunny, too smoggy, more floods, more drought, better crops, worse crops, pretty women, ugly women, stupid kids, smart kids, sunspots, meteor impacts, black holes......CLIMATE CHANGE IS THE CULPRIT.
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Ugly women?

This has to stop now!!!!!
 
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Mtntrout said:
I'd like the opportunity to discuss it with any "science guys" who think it is insignificant.

By "nobody else," you mean "nobody else besides people in the relevant fields?" Gee.

What history of faking data?
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They don't have the time for foolishness. They are busy with things that matter.
 
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McDad said:
It kinda is, isn't it?

Droughts in Cali. Floods on the Mississippi. Blizzards in the Rockies. Heat waves in the Northeast. Ginger extinction in Scotland. Male/female altered ratios.

It's hysterical that so many contradictory outcomes have their genesis in global warming...or cooling...or climate change.

Surely, we can have share a chuckle together over the absurdity of it all.
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No, we won't chuckle together about it because climate and weather ARE just energy and matter transport due to unequal heating of the Earth's surface...

I mean, what do you think weather is? What drives it? It's energy-- from the sun-- causing unequal pressure and temperature and thus movement, which transports moisture. Hell, every rain drop is a measurement of energy release, and every evaporated puddle is a mass of energy absorption.
 
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McDad said:
It kinda is, isn't it?

Droughts in Cali. Floods on the Mississippi. Blizzards in the Rockies. Heat waves in the Northeast. Ginger extinction in Scotland. Male/female altered ratios.

It's hysterical that so many contradictory outcomes have their genesis in global warming...or cooling...or climate change.

Surely, we can have share a chuckle together over the absurdity of it all.
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That a post which refutes what weather is (energy transport system) has 3 upvotes makes me question the education level of some of you.
 
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Mtntrout said:
Two camps:

A. Global warming is caused by the build-up of anthropogenic greenhouse gasses and has an impact on a wide variety of things.

B. Global warming isn't real for many independent and sometimes contradictory reasons, but at the same time no one denies it is real and it is really a good thing and thus we should continue warming the planet, but the warming is really natural anyway because humans can't alter climate.

I think the position with logical fallacies is obvious.
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C. Global warming is part of the natural climate cycle where glacial periods (long periods of cooling) are alternately followed by inter-glacials (warming) with the current being the Holocene where modern man has proliferated and thrived, and is no warmer than past inter-glacials.

I think the delusional position is obvious.
 
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