Offensive Play Calling in the Abalama UT game

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Izzy

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Not sure what ya'll thought but IMO Chaney made huge errors!!

1. Poole averaged 12 yards a carry in the first half. Chaney would not run the ball at all! I was livid with him

2. Ran the same end around to Gerald Jones twice in a row

3. Pass happy offense and never used the middle of the field

He called this game like the biggest dummy on the planet

I know he is a good OC but he had an awful game plan in the second half--- the red zone in particular

We should run it way way way more IMO

your thoughts!
 
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Izzy said:
2. Ran the same end around to Gerald Jones twice in a row
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Apperantly the second end around was supposed to be a trick play, but whoever the RB was (poole/nash) missed a block and that killed that play. This according to Dooley on his TV show.
 
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Izzy said:
Not sure what ya'll thought but IMO Chaney made huge errors!!

1. Poole averaged 12 yards a carry in the first half. Chaney would not run the ball at all! I was livid with him

2. Ran the same end around to Gerald Jones twice in a row

3. Pass happy offense and never used the middle of the field

He called this game like the biggest dummy on the planet

I know he is a good OC but he had an awful game plan in the second half--- the red zone in particular

We should run it way way way more IMO

your thoughts!
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1. Poole had an inflated YPC average because of the 59 yard run.
2. The first time to GJones, it worked. Watch the replay and look down the field for the second time; it was going to be an end-around with a pass to Da'Rick Rogers (I think it was him) but Bama's speed blew it up too fast. We'd beaten them twice on that play earlier in the game.
3. Never used middle of the field because their LBs are like ball magnets. Prior to the game, SEVEN of their picks had come without blizting. You have to play the edges.
 
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r3vo said:
Apperantly the second end around was supposed to be a trick play, but whoever the RB was (poole/nash) missed a block and that killed that play. This according to Dooley on his TV show.
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Actually, I stand corrected. You're right--Bama's speed blew it up, but it was because Rogers missed a block. I can't remember who was open downfield for the pass.
 
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Maybe we were seeing what Chaney wants to do when Bray comes in as the full time starter. Sling the rock around to all of our talented WR's.
 
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In the 3rd Quarter, though, I felt our overall plan was solid. The run on 3rd-12 was about what you'd expect. Maybe Poole could make something happen and get it closer than a 55 yard FGA. Unfortunately that wasn't what happened but it's statistically a better call considering it would have been far more likely than Simms making a complete pass for 6+ yards. We simply couldn't take an incomplete pass, sack or INT there.

Our first 3 offensive drives of the 3rd Quarter consisted of 27 plays that ate up more than 11 minutes off the clock. That was 100% the right plan, considering how our Defense simply couldn't stop Bama's Offense. That jet sweep confused me too, but, when Dooley said it was a designed trick play it made a little more sense but probably (well, obviously) wasn't the best call run back-back.
 
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yeah thats the problem we dont need to sling it around. that isnt the way ut plays and i hope we never play like that. we should have ran ran ran ran middle outside wherever with pool not rodgers and jones. and matt simms doesnt need to run it ANY! we have to waste time for our d for them to catch a breathe. u cant pass three times in a row and go three and out and expect the d to go out there and stop somebody all game!! cheaney sucked sat and has sucked all year. poole is our best weapon we have to use them.
 
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Izzy said:
Not sure what ya'll thought but IMO Chaney made huge errors!!

1. Poole averaged 12 yards a carry in the first half. Chaney would not run the ball at all! I was livid with him

2. Ran the same end around to Gerald Jones twice in a row

3. Pass happy offense and never used the middle of the field

He called this game like the biggest dummy on the planet

I know he is a good OC but he had an awful game plan in the second half--- the red zone in particular

We should run it way way way more IMO

your thoughts!
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1. Poole's average was made on one run where we caught them in just the right blitz. Bama was (is) too good up front to go with a run first game plan.

2. So, Simms faked the hand off and ran for good yardage with the same look earlier.

3. I don't care if they pass every down, if the QBs can connect and not get picked trying to force throws into coverage.
 
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thats the thing we dnt have the qb to throw so y would u? u make no sense!! u just said if the qb new how to throw well guess wat he dont so run the ball and u can break another big run
 
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IDK what he was thinking either... Poole looked good and he only got 12 touches. I expected him to get 20 after that first big run.

I dont get the Jones play, I think Bray was suppossed to keep it one of those times. but it just didnt happen... Even Dooley said that Bray made some administrative errors. Not getting the team lined up and what not... He just needs more experience and practice time. He's gonna be a good QB.

But back to topic, hopefully, this was just what we could run based on our players.... I really don't know, but I am willing to give Chaney another year, I think he is a smart guy. I just think, we had to use every trick in the book to fool bama, and it still wasnt enough in the second half.
 
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Like Chaney or not, you have to like his haircut that looks like Jim Carey in dumb and dumber.
 
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Also, like others have said, we did look pretty good in spurts, but bama's D is amazing. They blew up a lot of plays. And we are lacking big time on D. Our DBs core is very weak in overall ability as well as depth. I almost felt sorry for Art Evans, he couldnt cover all night and got wore down. DB is A LOT more exhausting than playing as a reciever. I have played both positions, obviously not professionally but DB is hard, you have to move your body so fast in uncomfortable positions bc the WR is constantly working you and trying to fake you out. And you don't really stick Julio at the line, he's a great, strong reciever and would have been wide a lot more if Art would have tried that.

One of the best DBs I think we have is Teague, IMO, playing WR first helped him a lot because he knows the tricks they like to use from personal experience. He will be a great help in the years to come.
 
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smitty229 said:
thats the thing we dnt have the qb to throw so y would u? u make no sense!! u just said if the qb new how to throw well guess wat he dont so run the ball and u can break another big run
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Jake Tate said:
IDK what he was thinking either... Poole looked good and he only got 12 touches. I expected him to get 20 after that first big run.
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Chaney has been doing this all season. As soon as Poole starts racking up yardage he calls in pass plays. As poorly as our QB's have played recently I wouldn't have minded running it 2 out of 3 times since we have 3 great RB's in Poole, Oku, and Neal.
 
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supersmo18 said:
1. Poole had an inflated YPC average because of the 59 yard run.
2. The first time to GJones, it worked. Watch the replay and look down the field for the second time; it was going to be an end-around with a pass to Da'Rick Rogers (I think it was him) but Bama's speed blew it up too fast. We'd beaten them twice on that play earlier in the game.
3. Never used middle of the field because their LBs are like ball magnets. Prior to the game, SEVEN of their picks had come without blizting. You have to play the edges.
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Way to think rationally. Plus 1 my good friend.
 
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Izzy said:
Not sure what ya'll thought but IMO Chaney made huge errors!!

1. Poole averaged 12 yards a carry in the first half. Chaney would not run the ball at all! I was livid with him

2. Ran the same end around to Gerald Jones twice in a row

3. Pass happy offense and never used the middle of the field

He called this game like the biggest dummy on the planet

I know he is a good OC but he had an awful game plan in the second half--- the red zone in particular

We should run it way way way more IMO

your thoughts!
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I for one can't stand his play calling! He calls run plays when you need 8 yards on 3rd down, he calls pass plays (like the 3rd qtr of the Bama game) when it's 4th and 1 (incomplete of course)! As much as I disliked Randy Sanders as OC, his play calling was far better than Chaney's...IMO!
 
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Hard not to call plays like your hair is on fire when you've got matchup nightmares at every single position.
 
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