Offensive Line Situation, is Kiffin planning for the future?

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NATidefan said:
You sure your not a delusional auburn fan in disquise. I thought that was you Barner4Life! J/K

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34 posts on a UT board, and you still can't spell.

Oh well, you're just another slow learner who needs the luck of Gump to make up for a poor choice in his college education.

See ya'. :hi:
 
#52
#52
iMHO that was a her good first post. Better than a lot of first time posts for the Vols fan on this forum. But your still like Bammers, so overall your team sucks.

OL is very concerning to me. I think you hit the nail on the head for one of my overall concerns with the recruiting cclass. But there is a lot of time left and a it in April is worthless in My mind.
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#53
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MDBJJC said:
iMHO that was a her good first post. Better than a lot of first time posts for the Vols fan on this forum. But your still like Bammers, so overall your team sucks.

OL is very concerning to me. I think you hit the nail on the head for one of my overall concerns with the recruiting cclass. But there is a lot of time left and a it in April is worthless in My mind.
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I had to sit back and chuckle at this post. It was funny because utmba93 was critizing NATideFan on his/her spelling. Nice...:good!:

Anyway, back on topic. So how many experienced OL did TN lose to graduation and what starters are returning? Out of the returning OL that are not starters, how much game experience do they have?
 
#54
#54
UTmba93: Oh well, you're just another slow learner who needs the luck of Gump to make up for a poor choice in his college education.
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UTmba93: They were a bit behind who would sign the top recruit in the nation this past year since the team that did hadn't even spoken to him until the season was over.
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I think you could use some learning too. Just saying.
 
#56
#56
They were Fulmer`s recruits, And not good enough to be winners in the SEC! It does not matter how many 4 or 5 star recruits you have, It is how their coached! Ask Utah! :post-4-1090547912:
 
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Looking at the O-line situation the last 5 years or so, to analogize it's like an infected wound. It went septic because coachPF/coachDA on their watch lazily allowed the talent to get weak and soft, mentally and physically..these boys are 6'5/300 and could'nt push a broom salesman out the front door. Ignoring even the possibility of the suggested thought that their system wasn't simply awesome. Well now we know denial isn't just a river in Egypt...coaching changes have been made, and personnel changes over time have helped and the wound is being cleaned...is it fully clean yet? I don't think so but it's on it's way. Our wound is having massive doses of confidence and discipline with the dressings changed daily. We hope the wound will be fully healed by late August...and we'll know by the yards gained on the ground and the chains moving regularly. Hell even Crompton may look competant behind this line. :twocents:
 
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They were Fulmer`s recruits, And not good enough to be winners in the SEC! It does not matter how many 4 or 5 star recruits you have, It is how their coached! Ask Utah!
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Let's see, we lost to an undefeated team in a BCS bowl because we didn't respect them, which is what you are doing in that post. And we have beaten ya'll the last three years and spanked you the last two, do you really want to have a conversation about whose better right now Bama or UT?
 
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High School offensive lineman are the hardest position to evaluate as prospects especially at this time of year. A lot of 16-17 year olds grow significantly in the next year, lose baby fat, hit the weight rooms heavy, etc.. and become prospects late. Also a lot of the top looking Soph and JR prospects are just beating up kids smaller than them and coaches want to evaluate them in camps and against kids their size to see how they fair. IMO offensive lineman are the hardest recruits to evaluate accurately. The staff will continue to evaluate kids and more offers will come before next year. Just look at Scholfield, he was not recruited at all at this time last year and now is highly thought of. We need O-line recruits next year, Kiffin knows this, and will find them. Thanks for your concern Bammer.
 
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dan4vols said:
coaching changes have been made, and personnel changes over time have helped and the wound is being cleaned...is it fully clean yet? I don't think so but it's on it's way. Our wound is having massive doses of confidence and discipline with the dressings changed daily.
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The right strength coach and o-line coach can turn an o-line around. This is one of the biggest concerns for me going into the '09 season.
 
#61
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NATidefan said:
Let's see, we lost to an undefeated team in a BCS bowl because we didn't respect them, which is what you are doing in that post. And we have beaten ya'll the last three years and spanked you the last two, do you really want to have a conversation about whose better right now Bama or UT?
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no, you have beaten us twice in a row, the first time since 91-92. congrats. i wouldnt get to comfortable.
 
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BamaBass said:
Anyway, back on topic. So how many experienced OL did TN lose to graduation and what starters are returning? Out of the returning OL that are not starters, how much game experience do they have?
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Well Ramon Foster graduated and Preston Bailey, Darius Myers, Darris Sawtelle, and Ramone Johnson all were either kicked off or couldn't handle the practices and quit (Sawtelle's career was ended due to injury). So we've lost 5 from last year with Johnson being the biggest loss...
UT returns 4 solid starters with McClendon, Richard, McNeil, and Scott. But the Vols 5th starter and back-ups have very little experience if any at all. Most of them have never seen the field in all honestly...
I'm not hating on our o-line. I have more confidence in them than most people seem to. They are just so young right now. But just wait until Pope, Douglas, Schofield, and Dallas Thomas are juniors and seniors and they will have an experienced Oku, Williams, Brown and Heaps (hopefully) behind them with Teague, Nukeese, Green, and Milton (hopefully) out beside of them. I can't wait...:rock:
 
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#63
You know, I am convinced. Kiffin has clearly forgotten all about the offensive line. I am going to spend the next 10 months freaking the f* out. We're so screwed!




I have no reason to believe our coaching staff could possibly be unaware of the issues on the offensive line, and are doing all they can to work on the issue. This thread is premature. If it's March and we are in the same boat, THEN I will begin to sweat it.
 
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Thanks for your concern Bammer.
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Why does everyone think I'm concerned because I made a thread and put some thought into it? I'm pleased when I look at your oline depth, I like talking about things that bode well for us beating UT for the next couple of years.
 
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no, you have beaten us twice in a row, the first time since 91-92. congrats. i wouldnt get to comfortable
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You're right, for some reason i was thinking the UT fumble out of the back of the endzone was in 2006.
 
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We haven't offered more more o-line because we are still reviewing tapes and offering for summer camps. We have offered the no brainer top o-line. Most get discovered during summer camps though. I believe coach O will find the linemen we need and get them here.
 
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Dang son, you were purty close. Kiffin has actually offered 5 OG, 3 Centers, and 14 OT. That means you only left 9 players off your list. Not too bad for a Bammer. IMO UT leads for Stone, Jose Jose, Koenig, and is very much in the hunt for Chaz Green and TJ Lefheit. Whenever Zak Tait gets a UT offer after showing he is back to 100%, he will be a Vol as well. Other in state guys like Cameron Clemmons, Rodregus Scruggs, and Jared Duke should add some depth to the OL class as well...
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Man it's really hard to believe scout is that far behind. Are ya'll sure all those have offers?
 
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Wow, I just thought of something else, without brimfield and bailey, you'll only have 7 offensive lineman for practice next spring unless you convert some DLs or get some early enrolls.
Anybody know of any DLs that were recruited for the OL, I know bama does that sometimes.
 
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Kiffin laughs at your notion that just because a player is committed means their mind can't be changed.
 
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Kiffin laughs at your notion that just because a player is committed means their mind can't be changed.
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Yeah......I realize they can, but... lot better to have 'em commit to you first and they are harder to get after they commit, don't you agree? And I don't care if Kiffin laughs at me, I've got like literally 500+ reasons to laugh at him.
 
#72
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NATidefan said:
Yeah......I realize they can, but... lot better to have 'em commit to you first and they are harder to get after they commit, don't you agree? And I don't care if Kiffin laughs at me, I've got like literally 500+ reasons to laugh at him.
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Literally 500+? Ok. List them all.
 
#73
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NATidefan said:
Why does everyone think I'm concerned because I made a thread and put some thought into it? I'm pleased when I look at your oline depth, I like talking about things that bode well for us beating UT for the next couple of years.
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Great, let's get back to the pending ruling from the 'AA on your latest foray into cheating.
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NATidefan said:
Man it's really hard to believe scout is that far behind. Are ya'll sure all those have offers?
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As mentioned before, go look at the 2010 offer list thread in the recruiting forum. Those are all confirmed offers. You will see that Scout is WAY behind.
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BamaBass said:
I had to sit back and chuckle at this post. It was funny because utmba93 was critizing NATideFan on his/her spelling. Nice...:good!:

Anyway, back on topic. So how many experienced OL did TN lose to graduation and what starters are returning? Out of the returning OL that are not starters, how much game experience do they have?
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Try typing on an Iphone it's a pain. Oh that's right your from Bama you guys are still workin your Amigas and Apple II E.
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