Offensive Line for 2015????

[Vol Revolver]

I think they hope it is

LT Blair (Very unknown)
LG Jackson
C Thomas
RG Robertson
RT Kerbyson

If those guys can't step up then repeat of this year with the OL. Lot of movement trying to find answers

I'd say Kerbyson at RG with Kendrick at RT. Staff trys to RS Robertson IMO.

 

[Dr Dread]

If Blair couldn't see the field this year what makes you guys think he will be our starting left tackle next year?

I honestly believe that the reason that Blair didn't play this year was the staff decided to bank him to use for 15 & 16 while they tried to develope talent to put around him.

 

[Vol Revolver]

You're crazy if you think Coleman Thomas will take the Center job from Crowder or at the very least Weisman.

Thomas needs a RS year as well. Hopefully some of the older guys can take over the spots that they couldn't hold down last year
Giving the younger kids a much needed year of development.

 

[sjt18]

In 2013 Maggitt was still recovering from his torn ACL. They didn't want to risk him until he was fully healthy.

The reports were that he was healthy enough to play.

Everyone has said that before the season Dobbs was the 3rd best QB we had at camp behind Worley and Peterman.

No. "Everyone" has not said that. Specifically, the coaches didn't say it. There was a lot of speculation in that direction based almost entirely on the passing drills that Jones allowed the media to see... against air. As we have clearly seen since Dobbs took over, his total QB package far surpasses Peterman AND he's a more accurate passer when the lights come on.

Bullard had more experience than Jackson so he started over him and chose to redshirt Jackson.

Jackson had started games. Any experience advantage for Bullard would have been nominal.

Blair came in last year overweight and out of shape. I find it hard to believe he couldn't get in decent enough shape in with our strength and conditioning program. The only other reason I can see is because he isn't very good.

Or... they wanted to get him in shape and take their time developing his technique and knowledge of the system.

Who knows though you could be right and I could be dead wrong. This is JMO

Same back at you. This is one area though that I give Jones a good bit of credit. I suspect that you will see him use RS's a bunch when he gets the roster strength where he wants it.

 

[Catbone]

I believe our Oline will be one of the top groups in the SEC in 2015.

Wowwwwwwww

 

[VolBuck]

Jackson had started games. Any experience advantage for Bullard would have been nominal.

Bullard was a redshirt senior going into 2013 while Jackson was a true junior. He also started 14 games to Jackson's 5 going into the season.

Same back at you. This is one area though that I give Jones a good bit of credit. I suspect that you will see him use RS's a bunch when he gets the roster strength where he wants it.

Yeah I have no idea what's going on in Butch and the rest of the coaches' heads. This could be why they are coaching and why I'm not. I just don't buy the whole 'redshirt him now because he could be a little better next year' argument. When you are fighting just to be bowl eligible you need every player who could possibly contribute.

 

[Biopsyman]

Don't sleep on Mosely and Blair being your tackles next year. With the D-line coming in, Charles Mosely will definitely stay on the offensive line. Big Charles was on everyone wish list last year for D Line because of his size and athletic ability, two factors that make an excellent OT. We need two great tackles to make this offense go.

Mosley will never a tackle.. No way he has the quickness and lateral sipped to handle a speed rusher at 370

 

[sjt18]

Bullard was a redshirt senior going into 2013 while Jackson was a true junior. He also started 14 games to Jackson's 5 going into the season.

Bullard was the weak link on that OL. Jackson was a better player.

Jones... made an investment. IMO, it was a very, very wise one.

Yeah I have no idea what's going on in Butch and the rest of the coaches' heads. This could be why they are coaching and why I'm not. I just don't buy the whole 'redshirt him now because he could be a little better next year' argument. When you are fighting just to be bowl eligible you need every player who could possibly contribute.

In this case, you don't have to wonder what Jones is doing. He's told us plainly on multiple occasions.

First, he's said numerous times that he is "committed to building it the right way". A big part of that is balancing the present needs with future needs.

Second, he repeats "everything we do is for a reason".

Third, is the whole "brick by brick" mantra.

Playing for the "now" is contrary to the last two.


The coaches weren't blind to what they had with Dobbs. Jancek let it slip after Dobbs started playing that he had been gashing the D all year long running the scout team. It took the staff no time at all to transition right through Peterman to Dobbs after Worley went down. His intended RS was an investment to give him concentrated development in prep for '15. Events took that away... but it does point to their methods.

 

[VolBuck]

Bullard was the weak link on that OL.

Yeah Bullard was the weak link on that line because that line produced 3 NFL rookie starters...

In this case, you don't have to wonder what Jones is doing. He's told us plainly on multiple occasions.

First, he's said numerous times that he is "committed to building it the right way". A big part of that is balancing the present needs with future needs.

Second, he repeats "everything we do is for a reason".

Third, is the whole "brick by brick" mantra.

Playing for the "now" is contrary to the last two.


The coaches weren't blind to what they had with Dobbs. Jancek let it slip after Dobbs started playing that he had been gashing the D all year long running the scout team. It took the staff no time at all to transition right through Peterman to Dobbs after Worley went down. His intended RS was an investment to give him concentrated development in prep for '15. Events took that away... but it does point to their methods.

I just don't agree with that way of thinking. Why throw away games you could win this year for games you could win next year?

 

[Dr Dread]

I just don't agree with that way of thinking. Why throw away games you could win this year for games you could win next year?

I don't either. That's probably why CBJ makes a couple of dollars more than I do.

I griped all season because it appears that he was holding Blair out while using this season as a developmental yr for the OLine.

Now that the season has ended, I'm all excited to see how it pays off over the next 2 seasons.

LT Blair
LG Jackson
C Crowder
RG Robertson
RT Kerbyson/Kendrick

This is how I see the line for next season. If Blair hadn't Red-shirted, we could potentially be replacing 4 starters going into 2016. Though I do believe that Blair could've helped us this yr, I think that after spending this yr on strenght & conditioning, he will be a much greater asset for 15 & 16.

 

[pimo1]

Yeah Bullard was the weak link on that line because that line produced 3 NFL rookie starters...




I just don't agree with that way of thinking. Why throw away games you could win this year for games you could win next year?

Because he wants to win championships not water cooler arguments. Am I the only person willing to endure 1 maybe 2 losses this year in trade for a legit chance at 9+ going forward? If Worey never gets hurt, I have no doubt we still win 6 games and go bowling. CB had faith in that also.

I am fan long term so I see the big picture the long road. Starting Dobbs behind that line when he had Worey would have been a terrible decision. I mean seriously as a running QB Dobb would have taken even MORE hits than Worley did. Mobile QBs are historically not very durable, especially behind bad lines. Yes, they can make a bad line look not so bad but at a huge cost.

Donavan Mcnabb, Mike Vick and so on would have had much better careers if they hadn't spent most of them running for their lives. Look at how big Bens production changed as hi oline declined over the years. The badness of our oline this year has been, in my opinion, vastly understated. It wasn't something that was on he players or coaches it was a bad situation left by bad descisions made by past regimes.

These kids were all forced to play out of position and before they were ready. Next year they will be ready and hopefully we can find a LT.

 

[KBVol]

I love Jalen, he's a horse.

So you love him, but you don't think he's very good.

 

[orangebloodgmc]

Our offensive line was not good enough this year to redshirt someone who was good enough to play. That argument makes no sense.

No? Well we won 7 games without him (and had a couple very close losses as well). The coaches took a gamble and I suspect they are grudgingly satisfied with the results.

They know things we don't know; maybe Blair had some kind of injury that we didn't hear about. Who knows.

But now we can have Blair for two more years, with him being here for 3 spring practices and off-seasons instead of 2.

 

[Nationdom]

So you love him, but you don't think he's very good.

I never said anything g like that. I said he is very good, but not as good as Chubb or Fournette yet. He might be as good as them, he might be better at some point or he might always be a little notch below them.

 

[volelectric]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Jack Jones starting at one of the tackle spots next year. His video is very impressive as far as his athleticism and power. I realize it's high school but this kid plays with an attitude.

 

[sjt18]

I just don't agree with that way of thinking. Why throw away games you could win this year for games you could win next year?

Most of my "arguments" tend to be with those wearing rose colored glasses for Jones... BUT if I'm right then he's not just right, he's brilliant.

Why would you risk a loss or two more in the first couple of years to invest for the future? Because he likely doesn't believe (nor do I if it works) that he's making a one for one exchange. He probably thinks that losing that extra game or two will let him prepare players that can add 2 or more wins going forward.

Like I said, most of the time I get attacked because I'm willing to say when something is bad. Truth is... I want to see the proof. I want to see it work. That doesn't mean I can't appreciate the things he's doing now also.

 

[sjt18]

I never said anything g like that. I said he is very good, but not as good as Chubb or Fournette yet. He might be as good as them, he might be better at some point or he might always be a little notch below them.

I don't think either of them would have performed as well as Hurd behind UT's OL. UGA had a dominant OL. Brendan Douglas avg'd over 4 ypc behind their OL. LSU wasn't quite on that plain but were their OL was clearly ahead of UT's.

IMHO, there's no apples to apples comparison to be had. I do think it is telling that LSU's top 3 RB's avg'd 4.97 ypc, 5.1 ypc, and 5.53 ypc (LF). UGA's top 3 avg'd 6.41 ypc, 7.06 ypc (NB), and 7.41 ypc. UT didn't really have a third RB (Pickett)... but the ypc dropped off dramatically between Hurd and everyone else. Lane avg'd 3.49 to Hurd's 4.73.

Hurd appears to have done more with less than the two guys you are comparing.

 

[Nationdom]

I don't think either of them would have performed as well as Hurd behind UT's OL. UGA had a dominant OL. Brendan Douglas avg'd over 4 ypc behind their OL. LSU wasn't quite on that plain but were their OL was clearly ahead of UT's.

IMHO, there's no apples to apples comparison to be had. I do think it is telling that LSU's top 3 RB's avg'd 4.97 ypc, 5.1 ypc, and 5.53 ypc (LF). UGA's top 3 avg'd 6.41 ypc, 7.06 ypc (NB), and 7.41 ypc. UT didn't really have a third RB (Pickett)... but the ypc dropped off dramatically between Hurd and everyone else. Lane avg'd 3.49 to Hurd's 4.73.

Hurd appears to have done more with less than the two guys you are comparing.

You and others keep being up the offensive line and that has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Jalen Hurd is a very good back and did very well with a bad O line. When I look at Chubb run vs Hurd, in the open field, and at the second level Chubb is clearly more talented at this point. He breaks more tackles and doesn't lose much momentum after contact. He is more agile, faster and has quicker lateral movement as well. He is a more fluid runner then Hurd.

 

[Dave1967]

The Offensive line will be average,IMO. You can have a strong team with an average offensive line. The offensive line will be helped out by the fact that Dobbs is so mobile.

 

[tallyho]

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LT Blair
LG Jackson
C Thomas
RG Robertson
RT Mosley

 

[Vol Revolver]

LT- Unknown (Hopefully Blair, Possibly J Jones)
LG- Jackson
C- Crowder
RG- Robertson/Kerbyson
RT- Kerbyson/Kendrick/Jones


Thomas or others could factor but need GREAT years in the off-season program. Jones values continuity and experience. Unless they somehow think Jackson, Crowder, or Kerbyson was THE weak link... they'll play. Robertson appears to be fairly safe. One or the other tackle position is up for grabs. ALL of the back up roles are a scramble and could be critical.

Very close I think.

LT- Blair/Jones(RS)
LG- Jackson/Sanders
C- Crowder/Thomas(RS)
RG- Kerbyson/Robertson(RS IMO)
RT- Kendrick/Jones(RS)

This puts the best 5 on the field IMO