Offensive changes

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MurphyVol said:
Do you think we'd pay 5 mil for an OC? That's probably what it would take. Not sure how Pruitt would feel about an assistant making 1.2 mil/year more than him.

A guy that can get 3 mil/year at a place like Liberty will never be an assistant anywhere. He's not far behind Pruitt in salary now.

Why does Pruitt need a 3rd OC in 4 years?
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And Pruitt would (rightly) see Freeze as HC in waiting which is never conducive to people needing to work together. The chances and temptation for backstabbing and sabotage in both directions are unlimited. Just ask Johnny and Phil
 
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maxxx said:
I see all the coaching change threads. And I'm sick of them. Canning a guy before his first class are seniors is shear stupidity. It destroys any hope of continuity. And hurts a program more th a n anything. Staying the course is sometimes hard. But yhe reward will be greater.

I've e a these this offense look stale for 3 years now. Does anyone support the idea of firing Chaney and bringing in Freeze? This way the head guy stays the same. And he can continue the strong recruiting. And culture development. It would be cheaper to make zfreeze the highest paid OC in the country. Rather than the huge financial hit of firing Pruitt.
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Pruitt talked to Freeze before he hired Chaney. Freeze did not want the job. What makes you think he would take it now. Freeze is a head coach and in my opinion a good one. He got caught doing somethings ole miss did not like. Does anyone remember who Alabama hired before Saban. It was Mike Price. He was fired before he ever coached a game there. Freeze and Price had the same situation. I don't care what the head coach does away from coaching the team. Just don't get caught and embarrass the university.
 
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chattaboogie said:
Please clarify. Did you really just say the majority of coaches in college football make decisions on where to coach at based on the message boards each school has and how relatively “nice” they are?
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I believe it is a factor. Of course coaches are going to look at the big picture and factor in everything. The board has had a very toxic nature lately. Support the university and the team. Pruitt needs another year of solid recruiting. Run the recruits off and we will never get to the level that we want. It looked to me that some people on here are trying to wreck recruiting. I believe some of them must be fans of other schools.
 
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maxxx said:
I see all the coaching change threads. And I'm sick of them. Canning a guy before his first class are seniors is shear stupidity. It destroys any hope of continuity. And hurts a program more th a n anything. Staying the course is sometimes hard. But yhe reward will be greater.

I've e a these this offense look stale for 3 years now. Does anyone support the idea of firing Chaney and bringing in Freeze? This way the head guy stays the same. And he can continue the strong recruiting. And culture development. It would be cheaper to make zfreeze the highest paid OC in the country. Rather than the huge financial hit of firing Pruitt.
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The changes under Pruitt are "offensive". Bring on Hugh Freeze as the new Head Coach at Tennessee
 
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maxxx said:
I see all the coaching change threads. And I'm sick of them. Canning a guy before his first class are seniors is shear stupidity. It destroys any hope of continuity. And hurts a program more th a n anything. Staying the course is sometimes hard. But yhe reward will be greater.

I've e a these this offense look stale for 3 years now. Does anyone support the idea of firing Chaney and bringing in Freeze? This way the head guy stays the same. And he can continue the strong recruiting. And culture development. It would be cheaper to make zfreeze the highest paid OC in the country. Rather than the huge financial hit of firing Pruitt.
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There has to be progression and not regression in the program. For the program to be in a worst state in year 3 than year 1 indicates you should not give a coach year 4.
 
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Pruitt had two recruiting classes that were 100 % recruited by by him and his coaches coming into the 2020 season. He recently stated that he had 50 freshmen and sophomores on this team. There are few coaches that would come here to coach with the hateful immature comments made on this board. I graduated from UT in 71. I remember attending games in the 80's when we started 0 and six. Rebuilds are difficult . Fans were not clamoring for Major's job. If we keep firing coaches every three years we will never get out of this hole. Pruitt is a football guy with years coaching. He is not stupid as some people claim. It is not the X'S AND O'S. It's the Jimmy's and Joe's. I would never post anything that would hurt the program. We may have lost 4 or 5 recruits because of some of the many comments posted here. Pruitt will change coaches where he needs too. TN fans need to pull together.

Voltoo, truer words were never spoken. We sound like a kid who got his toy taken away and we wonder why we have such a bad time replacing a coach. My guess is we aren't even in the top three positions in the SEC as far as a desirable job. Lets all run out and replace the coach every year if they don't deliver the results we want. Never mind the fact that most good coaches probably want nothing to do with the job. Pruitt had A LOT OF WORK to rebuild this roster and culture as well as learning how to be a head coach himself. Has he made mistakes? Sure the hell has but everyone thinking we can hire Belichick lives in fantasy land. If nothing else CJP will have the roster in a better place than it's been in years and with some stability for a while MAYBE we will become more desirable to other coaches in the future. Being a fan of this team is tiring between the administration and the whining of a portion of the fans. PLEASE stop all the toxic talk and let this play out and look at this as if it's real and not a cartoon where we all get exactly what we want.
 
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voltoo said:
I believe it is a factor. Of course coaches are going to look at the big picture and factor in everything. The board has had a very toxic nature lately. Support the university and the team. Pruitt needs another year of solid recruiting. Run the recruits off and we will never get to the level that we want. It looked to me that some people on here are trying to wreck recruiting. I believe some of them must be fans of other schools.
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CJP can't see the big picture IMO. If he could, he wouldn't have trotted JG out over and over. That wasn't looking ahead at the future. It was a "short sighted/narrow view" or just pure stupid stubbornness. The fans on VN aren't running recruits or coaches off and aren't trying to wreck anything by commenting on what we have all seen. Pruitt doesn't need our help with anything; his product on the field is what will wreck recruiting.
JMHO
 
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maxxx said:
I see all the coaching change threads. And I'm sick of them. Canning a guy before his first class are seniors is shear stupidity. It destroys any hope of continuity. And hurts a program more th a n anything. Staying the course is sometimes hard. But yhe reward will be greater.

I've e a these this offense look stale for 3 years now. Does anyone support the idea of firing Chaney and bringing in Freeze? This way the head guy stays the same. And he can continue the strong recruiting. And culture development. It would be cheaper to make zfreeze the highest paid OC in the country. Rather than the huge financial hit of firing Pruitt.
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Regardless of the thoughts and/or opinions of fans, the admin at UT will do what they think is best for the university and its athletic programs.

If Pruitt is coaching next season, which nothing indicates otherwise, it will be his make or break season.

Too many fans forget, or simply fail to realize, that athletics are extra curricular activities; UT is an institution for higher learning not a rec league for the entertainment of fans. We should either enjoy the parts we can or move on to something else that we can control. Before anyone brings up Schiano, the fans did not stop that hire; big money boosters did that despite the victory cries of many of the fans.
 
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ashg,because every where but here Chaney has had either elite quarterbacks or running backs(Arkansas) or both.Might have a little to do with it ,huh?
 
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maxxx said:
I see all the coaching change threads. And I'm sick of them. Canning a guy before his first class are seniors is shear stupidity. It destroys any hope of continuity. And hurts a program more th a n anything. Staying the course is sometimes hard. But yhe reward will be greater.

I've e a these this offense look stale for 3 years now. Does anyone support the idea of firing Chaney and bringing in Freeze? This way the head guy stays the same. And he can continue the strong recruiting. And culture development. It would be cheaper to make zfreeze the highest paid OC in the country. Rather than the huge financial hit of firing Pruitt.
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Yeah, waiting for Butch to get his class of seniors worked out swimmingly. And all this rube has done is change his staff. At some point, you have to understand the problem is him.
 
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maxxx said:
I see all the coaching change threads. And I'm sick of them. Canning a guy before his first class are seniors is shear stupidity. It destroys any hope of continuity. And hurts a program more th a n anything. Staying the course is sometimes hard. But yhe reward will be greater.

I've e a these this offense look stale for 3 years now. Does anyone support the idea of firing Chaney and bringing in Freeze? This way the head guy stays the same. And he can continue the strong recruiting. And culture development. It would be cheaper to make zfreeze the highest paid OC in the country. Rather than the huge financial hit of firing Pruitt.
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No way in hell Freeze would agree to that and then you're relying on the 1-dimensional coach to not be 1-dimensional when Freeze leaves for a better situation/position
 
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Pruitt's first recruiting class was kind of piecemeal and they will be seniors this coming season,after 2021,all players will be on him.Good pieces here now withjust a little depth.After next season,if there is marginal or no improvement,then,bravo yankee,bravo yankee!
 
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feathersax said:
You might want to research Chaney & the QBs he's developed in his career. Pretty astounding. He should be coaching QBs at Tennessee.
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And that’s my issue with Pruitt...not getting the right coaches in the right position playing to their strengths. Seems that should be easy enough to recognize, yet our past two coaches have failed miserably at this as well. Whatever their natural position where they outperform, that’s where you get them to and run with it.
 
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maxxx said:
I see all the coaching change threads. And I'm sick of them. Canning a guy before his first class are seniors is shear stupidity. It destroys any hope of continuity. And hurts a program more th a n anything. Staying the course is sometimes hard. But yhe reward will be greater.

I've e a these this offense look stale for 3 years now. Does anyone support the idea of firing Chaney and bringing in Freeze? This way the head guy stays the same. And he can continue the strong recruiting. And culture development. It would be cheaper to make zfreeze the highest paid OC in the country. Rather than the huge financial hit of firing Pruitt.
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UGA fans hated him too.
 
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ca_vol,try to remember that Butch's class of 32signees and number5 in the nation had 17-18 transfer or quit by his third and fourth year.And how you guys bit..ing here got all over Jalen Hurd for leaving until the truth came out later.Playing JG with the other qb's on the bench puzzles me some too;but,just because you can pass a car easily on the road doesn't qualify you to drive nascar.
 
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BearCat204 said:
All the continuity in the world won’t help Pruitt. It’s sheer stupidity to continue to believe otherwise.
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You rate a like. You can spell “sheer”.

If y’all can’t remember which word “sheer” goes with the word stupidity, Just think of Joe Namath in them pantyhose. It’s the pantyhose one that goes with stupidity.
 
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maxxx said:
I see all the coaching change threads. And I'm sick of them. Canning a guy before his first class are seniors is shear stupidity. It destroys any hope of continuity. And hurts a program more th a n anything. Staying the course is sometimes hard. But yhe reward will be greater.

I've e a these this offense look stale for 3 years now. Does anyone support the idea of firing Chaney and bringing in Freeze? This way the head guy stays the same. And he can continue the strong recruiting. And culture development. It would be cheaper to make zfreeze the highest paid OC in the country. Rather than the huge financial hit of firing Pruitt.
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The sign of a very good to excellent coach is easy to see, if you are looking. They beat you with their players and they could beat you with your players. The common theme is winning, which is the quality absent with UT’s JP coached team and to be blunt, they weren’t even competitive. No excuse, he is not a HC.
 
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maxxx said:
I see all the coaching change threads. And I'm sick of them. Canning a guy before his first class are seniors is shear stupidity. It destroys any hope of continuity. And hurts a program more th a n anything. Staying the course is sometimes hard. But yhe reward will be greater.

I've e a these this offense look stale for 3 years now. Does anyone support the idea of firing Chaney and bringing in Freeze? This way the head guy stays the same. And he can continue the strong recruiting. And culture development. It would be cheaper to make zfreeze the highest paid OC in the country. Rather than the huge financial hit of firing Pruitt.
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You're wrong and irrational. Stop making threads.
 
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voltoo said:
I believe it is a factor. Of course coaches are going to look at the big picture and factor in everything. The board has had a very toxic nature lately. Support the university and the team. Pruitt needs another year of solid recruiting. Run the recruits off and we will never get to the level that we want. It looked to me that some people on here are trying to wreck recruiting. I believe some of them must be fans of other schools.
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The stupid...it hurts!
 
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maxxx said:
I see all the coaching change threads. And I'm sick of them. Canning a guy before his first class are seniors is shear stupidity. It destroys any hope of continuity. And hurts a program more th a n anything. Staying the course is sometimes hard. But yhe reward will be greater.

I've e a these this offense look stale for 3 years now. Does anyone support the idea of firing Chaney and bringing in Freeze? This way the head guy stays the same. And he can continue the strong recruiting. And culture development. It would be cheaper to make zfreeze the highest paid OC in the country. Rather than the huge financial hit of firing Pruitt.
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Pruitt is an egotistical butt head. A head case megalomaniac. Why has Cheney’s offense worked decently at every other school including his first stop at TN but it doesn’t now? Because Pruitt won’t let Cheney do what’s necessary for his offense to work to include sticking his nose in the QB race. Considering how crappy the D is you’d think Pruitt wouldn’t have to time to stick his sorry nose in the offense. He needs to concentrate on his sorry D.

With all of the stories about Pruitt nearly having confrontations with many coaches around the SEC when they’ve worked together I can’t help but believe Pruitt is the problem. His ego is off the charts but considering his coaching is nothing better than Doolittle’s or Butch’s, he needs to reevaluate himself and become a lot more humble. He’s not the next coming of Saban nor will he ever be.
 
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