ObamaGate

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Carl Pickens said:
very true.... I think the Reps should leave Obamacare just as it is and allow it to crash and burn on its own.
They'll end up creating a bigger **** stain out of it by trying to revise it..... they're gutless panderers
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I agree.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
It's better to just let the hate for Trump go. Some want do it because they're too dumb to know better.

8 years is a very very long time to let hate rule in one's life each day.
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The fact that a billionaire reality TV star beat a seasoned corrupt politician should tell you why the Dems are in meltdown mode.

Then president Obama said Trump couldn't win and wouldn't win. He let everyone down with that lie. The thing is, they believe him. They will believe anything their commie leaders tell them. It's actually funny to watch the snowflakes melt.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
It looks like it's BHO's college transcripts and birth certificate versus Trump's tax returns...... you do realize why BHO refused to release his birth certificate right?..... it wasn't because it said he was Kenyan...... it was because it said he was white
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Obama was born in Hawaii.
 
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AirVol said:
The fact that a billionaire reality TV star beat a seasoned corrupt politician should tell you why the Dems are in meltdown mode.

Then president Obama said Trump couldn't win and wouldn't win. He let everyone down with that lie. The thing is, they believe him. They will believe anything their commie leaders tell them. It's actually funny to watch the snowflakes melt.
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The only meltdown going on right now is inside Trump's inner circle.
 
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This is the worst start for any president ever. He's accomplished practically nothing and his cabinet and advisers are up to their ears in a scandal. His only response is to flail around on twitter and hurl accusations at other people.
 
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MT LeConte said:
This is the worst start for any president ever. He's accomplished practically nothing and his cabinet and advisers are up to their ears in a scandal. His only response is to flail around on twitter and hurl accusations at other people.
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William Henry Harrison would disagree.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
You don't say?

Time will tell what kind of president he will be, but he's fighting an uphill battle like none before him had to. If he farts, they make a negative news story about it and discuss it for a week.
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Trump could cure every form of cancer and these p@@@ies would find a way to make him the second coming of Hitler.
 
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MT LeConte said:
This is the worst start for any president ever. He's accomplished practically nothing and his cabinet and advisers are up to their ears in a scandal. His only response is to flail around on twitter and hurl accusations at other people.
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Can you name another who has had both political parties, almost the entire news media, the previous administration with moles left in place, George Soros funded rioters, career government employees fearing job losses, the Pope, and every whiny butthurt loser trying to knock him out?
 
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Instapundit » Blog Archive » ASSOCIATED PRESS, WHOSE REPORTERS OBAMA TAPPED, leaps to Obama?s defense over claims he tapped Trump?


New York Times: “The Obama administration, which has a chilling zeal for investigating leaks and prosecuting leakers, has failed to offer a credible justification for secretly combing through the phone records of reporters and editors at The Associated Press in what looks like a fishing expedition for sources and an effort to frighten off whistle-blowers. On Friday, Justice Department officials revealed that they had been going through The A.P.’s records for months. The dragnet covered work, home and cellphone records used by almost 100 people at one of the oldest and most reputable news organizations. James Cole, a deputy attorney general, offered no further explanation on Tuesday.”
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“Over the past eight years, the administration has prosecuted nine cases involving whistle-blowers and leakers, compared with only three by all previous administrations combined. It has repeatedly used the Espionage Act, a relic of World War I-era red-baiting, not to prosecute spies but to go after government officials who talked to journalists. Under Mr. Obama, the Justice Department and the F.B.I. have spied on reporters by monitoring their phone records, labeled one journalist an unindicted co-conspirator in a criminal case for simply doing reporting and issued subpoenas to other reporters to try to force them to reveal their sources and testify in criminal cases.”
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So, yeah, it’s crazy talk to suggest Obama might have been spying on Trump.
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1972 Grad said:
Can you name another who has had both political parties, almost the entire news media, the previous administration with moles left in place, George Soros funded rioters, career government employees fearing job losses, the Pope, and every whiny butthurt loser trying to knock him out?
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He has no one to blame but himself for 90% of this. Who in their right mind would demonize and make enemies of both the media and the intel community? Everyone knew from the time he entered the race that if by some crazy, unimaginable sequence of events, Trump actually became president; it would be an unmitigated disaster. That is the very reason so many supported him. They wanted to see him bring chaos to DC and blow up the status quo. Why they are surprised by the exact results so easily foreseeable is beyond me.
 
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luthervol said:
He has no one to blame but himself for 90% of this. Who in their right mind would demonize and make enemies of both the media and the intel community? Everyone knew from the time he entered the race that if by some crazy, unimaginable sequence of events, Trump actually became president; it would be an unmitigated disaster. That is the very reason so many supported him. They wanted to see him bring chaos to DC and blow up the status quo. Why they are surprised by the exact results so easily foreseeable is beyond me.
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I haven't seen a disaster yet. I see the Democrats lashing out like a cornered animal. I see the media playing their role as party apparatchiks under the guise of journalism. And I see entrenched career bureaucrats concerned that the gravy train inside the beltway is threatened.

That these things are happening is no reason for concern. As you point out, they are to be expected.

The curious question I have of Democrats is why si much animosity toward trump? Many of his stated policies seem to be aligned with past democratic administrations.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'll bite.

Why would the intelligence community follow Trump?
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Because they enjoy having their accuracy and motives questioned? They are also thrilled with his Nazi Germany equivalency and his taking the word of Julian Assange over their intel? And doofus is surprised that there are leaks?

"Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community - they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you." - Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer after intelligence officials denied Trump's claim that a briefing had been delayed in order to build a stronger case against Russia for cyberattacks.
 
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tumscalcium said:
Great call counselor. Every judge needs the most stringent proof. It's like you see in the law books. I see you and Clearwater studied with Mr. Saul Goodman wit' dem' Pago Pago studies.

The Obama admin would go to "Their" judge if the case. Don't be dumb LG.
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You're pathetic. I've not even commented on this topic and you're attempting to ascribe an opinion to me. Why not wait until I've weighed in before you spout off?

BTW, it doesn't take a law degree to see how ill conceived and naive you theory is. What judge is going to sign a wiretap order of this magnitude and which would be subject to this level of scrutiny without mountains of probable cause? None.

My best guess is that this is yet another Trump conspiracy theory spurred by a desire to misdirect a nation from issues within his administration.

And like LG said, if a judge ordered a wiretap on a presidential candidate it would be very bad.
 
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I have to laugh every time I see "it takes a judge" to approve wiretapping for it to happen. Legally, yes. Otherwise, no.

Not saying the wiretap happened, but, could it have without a judges approval? What do you all think?
 
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Just so you know...



New York Wiretapping Law

New York's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. New York makes it a crime to record to record or eavesdrop on an in-person or telephone conversation unless one party to the conversation consents. N.Y. Penal Law §§ 250.00, 250.05. (link is to the entire code, you need to click on the Penal Code section, then choose Article 250 and locate the specific provisions). Thus, if you operate in New York, you may record a conversation or phone call if you are a party to the conversation or you get permission from one party to the conversation in advance. That said, if you intend to record conversations involving people located in more than one state, you should play it safe and get the consent of all parties.

Consult the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press's Can We Tape?: New York for more information on New York wiretapping law.
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