Obama, you piece of crap

[SpaceCoastVol]

this is how we fix America. We find out real fast what is important and what isn't.

Monthly. Not on April 15th. Nobody in their right mind would pay once a year because the system would completely implode. Even if it were monthly, it would necessitate the creation of a whole new bureaucracy to enforce it. But I am all for doing away with withholding.

 

[InVOLuntary]

It's one of the ways used to distribute the burden. We all pay, but how much of the burden each individual shoulders is the never ending issue.

If the consumer ends up paying it anyway, probably marked up, why not just cut the middle man out?

 

[LouderVol]

Monthly. Not on April 15th. Nobody in their right mind would pay once a year because the system would completely implode. Even if it were monthly, it would necessitate the creation of a whole new bureaucracy to enforce it. But I am all for doing away with withholding.

I think April 15th is just the cut off date of when you HAVE to be paid up in full. I certainly would do monthly. Actually I might do the yearly. Go ahead and set up my pay check to stick my taxes into a bank account. let that grow and collect interest, won't be much but it will add up, and then cut the gov a check on the 14th.

 

[orangeluvr]

Been working for me. :good!:

Oh bull$h8t! That's exactly what bought this country to the brink of economic disaster. You're right it does work for the one percenters. :sad: That is if you're one of 'em.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Nah dude. You can't sleep with those things on, too annoying.

They double as a good pillow case though.

 

[orangeluvr]

I think April 15th is just the cut off date of when you HAVE to be paid up in full. I certainly would do monthly. Actually I might do the yearly. Go ahead and set up my pay check to stick my taxes into a bank account. let that grow and collect interest, won't be much but it will add up, and then cut the gov a check on the 14th.

:good!: :idea:

 

[hog88]

Monthly. Not on April 15th. Nobody in their right mind would pay once a year because the system would completely implode. Even if it were monthly, it would necessitate the creation of a whole new bureaucracy to enforce it. But I am all for doing away with withholding.

Monthly would do nothing but put people on payment plans. And I do want it to implode, otherwise we'll just keep on doing the same dumb ****.

 

[hog88]

I think April 15th is just the cut off date of when you HAVE to be paid up in full. I certainly would do monthly. Actually I might do the yearly. Go ahead and set up my pay check to stick my taxes into a bank account. let that grow and collect interest, won't be much but it will add up, and then cut the gov a check on the 14th.

:good!:

Yep, let me use my money to grow my money.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Oh bull$h8t! That's exactly what bought this country to the brink of economic disaster. You're right it does work for the one percenters. :sad: That is if you're one of 'em.

Spoken like a true taker. I'll bet you haven't saved a single dime. And EVERYBODY can save something.

 

[AirVol]

Oh bull$h8t! That's exactly what bought this country to the brink of economic disaster. You're right it does work for the one percenters. :sad: That is if you're one of 'em.

Don't hate on people that have their sh!t together.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I really don't care, but it's the people on this very message board's constant whining about the disrespectful manner in which Trump has been treated that caused me to make the remark.

Who are these people.
I may have missed it but I don't think there's much love for Trump here.
I am a conservative on must issues but think Trump is pretty much a dufuss.

 

[TheDeeble]

and this is where we agree to disagree.

Check out the luxury suites at any stadium, the multi million dollar homes, yachts....Let's just say we have a difference of opinion on the abuses of wealth and power, the things which enable and even promote those abuses, and the things that can and should be done in order to reign in those abuses.

The govt that you love so much and want to grow is responsible for all of this. Not solely responsible but they're right in the middle of it.

 

[luthervol]

The govt that you love so much and want to grow is responsible for all of this. Not solely responsible but they're right in the middle of it.

To whatever degree that is true, it's still the best option. If you really want chaos, remove government. There's a reason why every known society in the history of mankind has found a need for government. As bad as it may be, the absence is worse.

 

[TheDeeble]

To whatever degree that is true, it's still the best option. If you really want chaos, remove government. There's a reason why every known society in the history of mankind has found a need for government. As bad as it may be, the absence is worse.

I'm not suggesting it be removed. The govt is made up of people that can be as crooked or corrupt as any business and promoting it as the solution to every problem isn't realistic.

It's power and influence has far exceeded what I believe it was intended to be. Yet for some reason people seem to want to grow the very govt they complain about.

 

[AM64]

Lol. wtf? Comprehension is not your strong suit is it?

I'd love to be a fly on your wall so I could witness how you become so detached from reality.

Careful, that kind of thing could be contagious and a threat to your own sanity.

 

[AM64]

And... who are the one's that ultimately pay corporate taxes?

Pretty incredible how few actually figure that one out. I'm constantly amazed how the gullible buy into corporate taxes with the thought that someone else pays them. If taxes were listed in the ingredients, half the population still couldn't connect the dots - with a shadowed line to direct them.

 

[AM64]

I really don't care, but it's the people on this very message board's constant whining about the disrespectful manner in which Trump has been treated that caused me to make the remark.

There hasn't been a politician, certainly in recent times - probably ever, who didn't righteously earn the disrespect accorded him or her. You actually can't swim in a septic tank and come out smelling like a rose - chocolate or otherwise.

 

[AM64]

The discussion was about the necessary tax increases that would result from Bernie's health plan. My point is that not having Bernie's plan is costing me more than $15,000 per year. If Bernie's plan resulted in a $10,000 dollar increase in my taxes but the elimination of the $15,000 current cost of premiums, then I would be $5000 ahead. I wouldn't consider it "free", I would consider it $10,000 and not $15,000 (plus what spend in deductibles and co-pays.)

So just a dumb question - based on the congressional past. Where do you suppose the tax dollars allocated to paying medical bills would be spent? How do you propose that those funds don't just become part of the congressional slush fund? Keep in mind the congressional past with SS and Medicare funds, and the fact that except for the never used incumbent exit clause (the vote) citizens have absolutely no congressional oversight.

The incumbent exit clause is never used because the incumbents are proficient at misallocating funds to bring home the bacon necessary to continue their career in crime. Somebody missed the point that we might not be able to directly vote ourselves largess from the public coffers, but without term limits we still have a conduit to the funds.

And that earlier comment you made about the "free water" not actually being free. How much more would you expect to pay for federally provided free water vs water provided by a local utility if all the overhead couldn't otherwise be hidden and had to be applied to the cost?

 

[Godfatha]

Cancer beat you to it.

Harsh.