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Burger said:
Globalist: An individual or entity that supports one world government. These individuals often disregard a country's sovereignty, and push the one world agenda.
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Such as EU? NATO? Free trade agreements?
 
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Burger said:
Correct. They all need to go. We can do so much better than WTO, NATO, NAFTA, and TAFTA.
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This conclusion is based upon what? Multi-national organizations have dominated international relations since World War II.
 
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Velo Vol said:
This conclusion is based upon what? Multi-national organizations have dominated international relations since World War II.
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Based on usefulness and pros/cons. Multinational organizations don't work. NATO is completely useless since the cold war ended, and we are getting taken to the woodshed with the trade deals. We are running trade deficits of 800 billion dollars. Just Neutralizing that would almost make the government break even. We are much better off with one on one trade deals with nations instead of difficult enforcement of these trade deals.

Just because it's the backbone of diplomacy since WWII doesn't mean it's working. While we're at it, let's abolish the UN. The European Union is a massive failure in almost every way.
 
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Burger said:
Based on usefulness and pros/cons. Multinational organizations don't work. NATO is completely useless since the cold war ended, and we are getting taken to the woodshed with the trade deals. We are running trade deficits of 800 billion dollars. Just Neutralizing that would almost make the government break even. We are much better off with one on one trade deals with nations instead of difficult enforcement of these trade deals.

Just because it's the backbone of diplomacy since WWII doesn't mean it's working. While we're at it, let's abolish the UN. The European Union is a massive failure in almost every way.
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This.

But the EUROPEAN Union will dismantle itself. 1100 men tried to storm their way into Spanish territory yesterday. The Muslim invasion will destroy the EUROPEAN. Union. Germany and France are already lost causes..they can never deport the millions of Muslims that have invaded. Britain is smart enough to get out now, and the English Channel has kept invaders somewhat at bay. 1.2 million? I think so far. As the invaders keep coming, countries will either leave the immigration policies of the Union or face Civil War when the people rebel. It is inevitable now

Read the comments on the article linked in the other thread about the 1100 invaders. 99% are Europeans screaming to gun down the invaders with live rounds...and they are right
They will either stop theating invasion very soon or Europe as we know it will cease to exist. True Story. They say 250,000 more Muslims are waiting in Libya right now to be transported to europe..
275,000 came to Italy this year. Those are the documented ones.

These are almost entirely MEN AGES 20 TO 50. as soon as they can get a place to lay their heads, their families will join them. Then they will out breed the European hosts and take over.


Europe is screwed
Thank God almighty for the Atlantic Ocean. And that me and mine were born Americans. Praise his name.
 
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Burger said:
Based on usefulness and pros/cons. Multinational organizations don't work. NATO is completely useless since the cold war ended, and we are getting taken to the woodshed with the trade deals. We are running trade deficits of 800 billion dollars. Just Neutralizing that would almost make the government break even. We are much better off with one on one trade deals with nations instead of difficult enforcement of these trade deals.

Just because it's the backbone of diplomacy since WWII doesn't mean it's working. While we're at it, let's abolish the UN. The European Union is a massive failure in almost every way.
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This, I think, is what scares me the most about Trumpism.

It's not that there aren't legitimate concerns with current systems of government, especially international ones, and it's not that there aren't failures that need to be fixed.

It's that it has emboldened a "dey tewk awr jowbs!" and "burn it all down" crowd that should scare the living piss out of any rational, collected, and red-blooded American.
 
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volprof said:
This, I think, is what scares me the most about Trumpism.

It's not that there aren't legitimate concerns with current systems of government, especially international ones, and it's not that there aren't failures that need to be fixed.

It's that it has emboldened a "dey tewk awr jowbs!" and "burn it all down" crowd that should scare the living piss out of any rational, collected, and red-blooded American.
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Well it is true that they didn't take anyone's job. They were willingly handed over in the one action that we were all warned about which DID create a "giant sucking sound" as predicted. And you libs still say he was crazy. About that particular thing, he was spot on.

The UN is about as useless an organization that has come along in a long long time. Send it packing to Brussels. It's high time somebody else paid the bills for that garbage.
 
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volprof said:
This, I think, is what scares me the most about Trumpism.

It's not that there aren't legitimate concerns with current systems of government, especially international ones, and it's not that there aren't failures that need to be fixed.

It's that it has emboldened a "dey tewk awr jowbs!" and "burn it all down" crowd that should scare the living piss out of any rational, collected, and red-blooded American.
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I feel a sense of comfort in that.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I feel a sense of comfort in that.
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You find a sense of comfort in the fact that the "burn it all down" crowd has been emboldened?

I see a lot of similarities between the angry extremist right and the angry extremist urban rioters. I'm sure that if you put 10,000 right wing wackos in a city, there would be some form of rioting.
 
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luthervol said:
You find a sense of comfort in the fact that the "burn it all down" crowd has been emboldened?

I see a lot of similarities between the angry extremist right and the angry extremist urban rioters. I'm sure that if you put 10,000 right wing wackos in a city, there would be some form of rioting.
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They would probably hunt down liberals one by one, and cut their heads off........and then clean up after themselves.
 
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1972 Grad said:
They would probably hunt down liberals one by one, and cut their heads off........and then clean up after themselves.
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They would start with non-white, then move on to non-christian, and then to LBGT; so I would be good for awhile.
 
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luthervol said:
They would start with non-white, then move on to non-christian, and then to LBGT; so I would be good for awhile.
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I was thinking liberal LBGT, liberal blacks, illegals, and Muslims in that order. They won't go after non-Christians. They are coming for you, no doubt.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I was thinking liberal LBGT, liberal blacks, illegals, and Muslims in that order. They won't go after non-Christians. They are coming for you, no doubt.
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They're not smart enough to know....they would just go on sight.
 
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1972 Grad said:
There you liberals go again.......thinking that conservatives aren't very smart. Looking down your nose at them is what got Dems beat.
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We were talking about the "burn it all down" conservatives.

I'm assuming they aren't representative of the more reasonable conservatives. But your losing sight of what was being discussed does give credence to any liberal feeling the way you suggest.
 
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luthervol said:
We were talking about the "burn it all down" conservatives.

I'm assuming they aren't representative of the more reasonable conservatives. But your losing sight of what was being discussed does give credence to any liberal feeling the way you suggest.
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I don't know who the "burn it all down " conservatives are. You are either really young, or really gullible, or really dumb. I haven't decided.
 
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volprof said:
This, I think, is what scares me the most about Trumpism.

It's not that there aren't legitimate concerns with current systems of government, especially international ones, and it's not that there aren't failures that need to be fixed.

It's that it has emboldened a "dey tewk awr jowbs!" and "burn it all down" crowd that should scare the living piss out of any rational, collected, and red-blooded American.
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The UN wouldn't exist without our tax dollars. Why should we dump money into something that does absolutely nothing? Giving up sovereignty up to an international body is as unamerican as it gets. The EU and the UN are absolutely failure.
 
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luthervol said:
You find a sense of comfort in the fact that the "burn it all down" crowd has been emboldened?

I see a lot of similarities between the angry extremist right and the angry extremist urban rioters. I'm sure that if you put 10,000 right wing wackos in a city, there would be some form of rioting.
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It would be called a prospering city.
 
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luthervol said:
You find a sense of comfort in the fact that the "burn it all down" crowd has been emboldened?

I see a lot of similarities between the angry extremist right and the angry extremist urban rioters. I'm sure that if you put 10,000 right wing wackos in a city, there would be some form of rioting.
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It would just look like a riot to you. It is called rush hour, when they all head off to work.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I don't know who the "burn it all down " conservatives are. You are either really young, or really gullible, or really dumb. I haven't decided.
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You are the one who said you got a sense of comfort from the "burn it all down" conservatives being emboldened.

Now you say you don't know what "burn it all down" conservatives are.

Maybe you're getting senile.

And if I had to pick one of the three choices you gave me, I guess I would have to pick dumb; but I'm thinking there should be a fourth choice.
 
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luthervol said:
Not to many urban white collar workers stuck in rush hour that voted for Trump.
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Oh really? Most of the "urban white collar workers" have moved to the suburbs. The Dem Party is pretty well non-existent in most of the country, except for college campuses, the western and northeastern seaboards and urban areas. George Soros and identity politics ruined the party.
 
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luthervol said:
You are the one who said you got a sense of comfort from the "burn it all down" conservatives being emboldened.

Now you say you don't know what "burn it all down" conservatives are.

Maybe you're getting senile.

And if I had to pick one of the three choices you gave me, I guess I would have to pick dumb; but I'm thinking there should be a fourth choice.
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Nowhere close to senile. You don't do humor, do you?
 
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