Obama to sanction Russia for hacking

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volprof said:
Well, it's looking more and more like you made a serious misjudgment.

Regarding your other question about sanctions, I'm referring to the one's Obama made Thursday. It was basically a shorthand term for the expulsions, closures, etc. I suppose you could include the economic sanctions as well.

Obama and Putin have put him in a very difficult position. It's either negate all of Obama's actions to further return favors to the Kremlin or keep enforcing them (so as to avoid further public association with the Kremlin and the wrath of American lawmakers and IC alike) and then incur the wrath of Putin's kompromat, which, rest assured, he has a ton on Trump.

This isn't going to end well in any shape or form. And this is merely one aspect of a presidency that will be an absolute disaster, just as his electorship has been the most divisive and chaotic that I'm aware of in our nation's history.
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There is no rock, nor hard place for Trump.

You are severely exagerating the number of people that believe your twisted delusion about Trump. Trump can negate Obama's sanctions and VERY few people will think anything about it. The only way it would be a hard place for Trump is if your delusion became a mass delusion.
 
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volprof said:
I frequently apologize on here for being wrong. I'm one of the few who does so.

I will, however, never apologize to those who take the side of the Kremlin over our own intelligence community, including Trump and yourself.
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Our intelligence community (there leaders) have taken the side of the Democrats and Saudi for the last 8 years.
 
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hog88 said:
So all the sanctions amount to were the expulsion of 30 or so Russian diplomats? That's sure showing them.
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What are you talking about?

I never said these were excellent responses. Just a start. I also think he should have closed down RT as well and removed them from the country as agents of a foreign government.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
There is no rock, nor hard place for Trump.

You are severely exagerating the number of people that believe your twisted delusion about Trump. Trump can negate Obama's sanctions and VERY few people will think anything about it. The only way it would be a hard place for Trump is if your delusion became a mass delusion.
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This is ultimately what I fear.
 
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volprof said:
What are you talking about?

I never said these were excellent responses. Just a start. I also think he should have closed down RT as well and removed them from the country as agents of a foreign government.
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And we should remove our spies as well right. The thing is we want proof of Trump committing treason.
 
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volprof said:
What are you talking about?

I never said these were excellent responses. Just a start. I also think he should have closed down RT as well and removed them from the country as agents of a foreign government.
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The lack of any real sanctions for such a serious charge as "interfering" in our elections should be a tell-tell sign for you that this is just a political move to make Trumps administration appear illegitimate.
 
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Burger said:
And we should remove our spies as well right. The thing is we want proof of Trump committing treason.
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I would settle for an official statement from one of our intelligence agencies, they don't even have to lay out hard proof, just go on record.
 
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I mean Obama has proven to be a non-negotiable, non-compromising self absorbed tyrant. He has good relationships with no one but Germany (ask the germans how they feel about that). He has gridlocked congress (refusal to compromise on any bill) screwed up the reset with Russia (probably because they did not agree with his global warming policies) Israel, Egypt, Tunisian, Iraq, Afghanistan relations are at all time low. Syria and Libya are in ashes. Libya in chaos Syrian civil war lost. He has better relationships with Iran and the Palestinians at this point.

All of this was ok? Could Trump do any worse?

I hope we can create a good relationship with Russia instead of Iran. Why not?
 
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hog88 said:
I would settle for an official statement from one of our intelligence agencies, they don't even have to lay out hard proof, just go on record.
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There's a reason why they skipped that house hearing.
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
I mean Obama has proven to be a non-negotiable, non-compromising self absorbed tyrant. He has good relationships with no one but Germany (ask the germans how they feel about that). He has gridlocked congress (refusal to compromise on any bill) screwed up the reset with Russia (probably because they did not agree with his global warming policies) Israel, Egypt, Tunisian, Iraq, Afghanistan relations are at all time low. Syria and Libya are in ashes. Libya in chaos Syrian civil war lost. He has better relationships with Iran and the Palestinians at this point.

All of this was ok? Could Trump do any worse?

I hope we can create a good relationship with Russia instead of Iran. Why not?
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It's amazing that Obama's approval rating is at 52% w/a 47% that disapprove.
 
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Luckily, Trump says he has inside information that proves the hacking was not by Russia. All the intelligence services are wrong. He won't share it with is, even generally, but rest assured the Russians are not involved.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Luckily, Trump says he has inside information that proves the hacking was not by Russia. All the intelligence services are wrong. He won't share it with is, even generally, but rest assured the Russians are not involved.
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The intelligence agencies won't share their information with Congress. Remember those WMDs? Where are they? How about ISIS not being a threat? They're the JV team.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Luckily, Trump says he has inside information that proves the hacking was not by Russia. All the intelligence services are wrong. He won't share it with is, even generally, but rest assured the Russians are not involved.
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lawgator1 said:
Luckily, Trump says he has inside information that proves the hacking was not by Russia. All the intelligence services are wrong. He won't share it with is, even generally, but rest assured the Russians are not involved.
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..it wasn't "hacking"..Podesta got nailed by a phishing scam..how is this so hard to understand? And the biggest "hack" of the DNC came from an inside source who, oddly enough, got murdered...


AND all of this happened way before the election. Hell, not even in the same damn year.
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
You really believe those numbers after the election results? Same as Hillary winning in a landslide!
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I do. I also believe that if you did a survey asking "would you rather have Obama or Trump as president for the next four years?" Obama would win by a significant margin.

There aren't many people who are excited and optimistic about a Trump presidency. He was elected by about 20% of the population. (about 30% of the voting age population) Many of those 30% voted while holding their nose. Many more voted for Trump never thinking he would win and more as a protest vote.

There are more people worried, embarrassed, ashamed, scared, and/or shocked than ever before. Many people on here that support Trump just validate those feelings.
 
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Only the Democrats love Obozo & that's no big deal. Obama has been a disaster & a terrible President for America. He'll be the last black to be elected for all the corruption & arrogance he's shown from his administration.
 
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luthervol said:
I do. I also believe that if you did a survey asking "would you rather have Obama or Trump as president for the next four years?" Obama would win by a significant margin.

There aren't many people who are excited and optimistic about a Trump presidency. He was elected by about 20% of the population. (about 30% of the voting age population) Many of those 30% voted while holding their nose. Many more voted for Trump never thinking he would win and more as a protest vote.

There are more people worried, embarrassed, ashamed, scared, and/or shocked than ever before. Many people on here that support Trump just validate those feelings.
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Those people are called left wing nuts.
 
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luthervol said:
I do. I also believe that if you did a survey asking "would you rather have Obama or Trump as president for the next four years?" Obama would win by a significant margin.

There aren't many people who are excited and optimistic about a Trump presidency. He was elected by about 20% of the population. (about 30% of the voting age population) Many of those 30% voted while holding their nose. Many more voted for Trump never thinking he would win and more as a protest vote.

There are more people worried, embarrassed, ashamed, scared, and/or shocked than ever before. Many people on here that support Trump just validate those feelings.
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None of that matters...all that matters is what he accomplishes as your President of the United States
 
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