Obama: "If you got a business, you didn't build that!"

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I am worried about this country. Can't believe that there are so many people who has this type of thought with the POTUS leading the charge.
 
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what's lost in the silliness here is that the same basics that make business possible have been made available to the vast majority, but the wherewithal to take advantage apparently only resides in the vast minority.
 
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MG1968 said:
Back on the trail, Obama clings to the teleprompter | WashingtonExaminer.com

so much for the smartest man ever to be president, he can't be trusted to speak extemporaneously, so out comes TOTUS

people will start fainting in the aisles next
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I've said this from the get go. Just because he can read with enthusiasm doesn't make him smart. As we've seen time and again, when he gets off the script, he's a bumbling mess. I personally think he's an idiot - evidenced by this, and by his policies.
 
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golfballs said:
I've said this from the get go. Just because he can read with enthusiasm doesn't make him smart. As we've seen time and again, when he gets off the script, he's a bumbling mess. I personally think he's an idiot - evidenced by this, and by his policies.
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If he was even half as smart as the fawning media claims, he wouldn't just release his college transcripts, he'd have them printed on a t-shirt.
 
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bleedorange1983 said:
What point was he trying to make?
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You can listen and hear that the "you didn't build that" directly references "roads and bridges," which are built by other people with other peoples' tax dollars. I think he's saying that successful individuals do not create their businesses in a vacuum. Our American society enables people to become successful if they work hard and smart. How can anybody disagree with that?
 
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Vol Main said:
You can listen and hear that the "you didn't build that" directly references "roads and bridges," which are built by other people with other peoples' tax dollars. I think he's saying that successful individuals do not create their businesses in a vacuum. Our American society enables people to become successful if they work hard and smart. How can anybody disagree with that?
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Please. His point minimizes individual accomplishment and says luck is the arbiter. Defending the point makes you look less moderate.
 
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Vol Main said:
You can listen and hear that the "you didn't build that" directly references "roads and bridges," which are built by other people with other peoples' tax dollars. I think he's saying that successful individuals do not create their businesses in a vacuum. Our American society enables people to become successful if they work hard and smart. How can anybody disagree with that?
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OK, I agree with that. Someone else built the roads and bridges.

Someone else probably built the building.

Let's assume you're selling food. Someone else probably raised the cattle, farmed the vegetables, and made the flour.

Now that we all agree on it (so it's no longer the straw man), what did he actually mean?
 
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bamawriter said:
If he was even half as smart as the fawning media claims, he wouldn't just release his college transcripts, he'd have them printed on a t-shirt.
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Some highly successful people made high grades in college, but a lot of them were C students. Steve Jobs was a college drop-out. Harry Truman's first job out of high school was working as a timekeeper for the Santa Fe Railroad. He slept in hobo camps along the rail line and never graduated from college. I don't think he ever even started college.
 
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DC_Vol said:
OK, I agree with that. Someone else built the roads and bridges.

Someone else probably built the building.

Let's assume you're selling food. Someone else probably raised the cattle, farmed the vegetables, and made the flour.

Now that we all agree on it (so it's no longer the straw man), what did he actually mean?
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Infrastructure is available to everyone, so all could have leveraged it for sucess. Everyone didn't, so socialists advocate spending more govt funds on those unable to take advantage of that already spent. Sounds ingenious.
 
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DC_Vol said:
OK, I agree with that. Someone else built the roads and bridges.

Someone else probably built the building.

Let's assume you're selling food. Someone else probably raised the cattle, farmed the vegetables, and made the flour.

Now that we all agree on it (so it's no longer the straw man), what did he actually mean?
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I could be totally wrong, but my take on it is this. Successful people receive support in life, and they are dependent upon other people in society. They do not hatch out of a void or a jungle, like Tarzan. Some people believe that they owe nothing to other people after they become successful. It means that successful people do owe something to the other people in society ... because without society, they could never become successful. We all rely upon other people, and we all owe certain duties to other people, e.g. taxes. If our society enables people to become successful, then shouldn't successful people enable society?

I believe it's a very old principle of common law that property rights are not absolute.
 
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