O-line, RB changes we need.

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fostermom said:
While I respect this politically correct version of your initial post, had you written this the first time out, I never would've responded. I don't have issues with criticism but personal affronts are not something I'm willing to let go. At the end of the day, your reputation is all you have and something one should fight for.
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I respect that and I would do the same. . . It should be noted, that my post was actually aimed towards Fulmer. Sorry for the Mis-construement.
 
#28
#28
babercr1 said:
I have still yet to figure out why we switch our O-linemen around from side to side. Fulmer isn't exactly an innovator for college football so if no other team does that then either it doesn't help much at all or Clawson / Fulmer are geniuses.
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I have wondered the same thing,I listened to Reggie Coleman say that he wouldn't want to play like that on the Lockeroom last night,i think that might be a big part of the reason for a bunch of the o lines penaltys,and bad blocking,they were good last year,now they got to learn to play both sides of the line,and that came in with Clawson,i think Fulmer should put his foot down and put a stop to it,
 
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#29
Why pull a back averaging over 5ypc just so you can have an equal number to go around. We split the carries pretty well, obviously with Foster getting a few more. He blocks better and catches better than the other two.

To say that one has more problems fumbling than another is laughable. How many fumbles did Creer have last year in mop-up duty?

Creer got to play...it's not like he rode the bench all night. He returned quite a few kicks, if I recall correctly.

When you run 20 times, it's hard to spread it around too much.
 
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jwells said:
Why pull a back averaging over 5ypc just so you can have an equal number to go around. We split the carries pretty well, obviously with Foster getting a few more. He blocks better and catches better than the other two.

To say that one has more problems fumbling than another is laughable. How many fumbles did Creer have last year in mop-up duty?

Creer got to play...it's not like he rode the bench all night. He returned quite a few kicks, if I recall correctly.

When you run 20 times, it's hard to spread it around too much.
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I go back to the new clock rules on that. Fifty snaps a game and when you try to balance that. Well 25/25, not alot of carry's to go around. I hate the new rules, especially the out of bounds rule.
 
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#32
Fulmer just wants Foster to break the record, which I beleive he doesn't deserve to be ranked above names like Graham, Stephens, Henry,and Lewis. Those guys changed games in OUR favor not the other teams(Penn. St., UCLA, South Carolina, Auburn, etc.)
 
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Tennessee Golfer said:
Fulmer just wants Foster to break the record, which I beleive he doesn't deserve to be ranked above names like Graham, Stephens, Henry,and Lewis. Those guys changed games in OUR favor not the other teams(Penn. St., UCLA, South Carolina, Auburn, etc.)
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They keep stats for a reason, and they are not up for debate. I'm sorry that everything can't be fluffy clouds and unicorns where only the best of the best have the most yards.

Foster's a good back. Blaming him for those losses is silly. Neither Penn State, UCLA, USCe, or Auburn should have been an issue with anything close to competent offensive play.
 
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#34
in order to break a record you have to get it done on the field and foster has done just that. if and when he breaks the record, he deserves it.

he does have a problem holding onto the ball inside the 20's so maybe we could use him between the 20's and hardesty inside of the 20's more often than not. foster does not have great speed but has great vision and a good knowledge of the game. he is not injury prone like hardesty so i don't have a problem with him getting more than half the carries but hardesty is clearly an explosive player that deserves to get the ball more.

it's only fair to add that some of his turnovers are caused by bad handoffs from crompton. i am not as concerned about foster's number of carries as i am about the play calling. we never run a play to set up a play later on. it's almost like we have a lotto-ball machine in the coaches box and whatever number we draw out is what play we run. we don't seem to have a direction on offense at all.

the good news is that if a tornado ever hits knoxville, neyland will be safe because there's sure no touchdowns is there!
 
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Foster is underated at Tn,i know there have been some untimley fumbles,big time,but he would be pulled from the game instead of on the next offensive play being handed the ball, and say your the man,lets see what you do now,i belive we would have beat Penn St if he had stayed in the game,and he has had what 4 fumbles in 4 years ?guess i should say major ones,he has earned every one of them yards and i hope he has a excllent game next week
 
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#36
The yards for his career area result of 2-1/2 years of starting. He is a leader and with limited abilities has made some plays , but it all comes down to W's and if you got a guy or two (Creer , Hardesty ) that can change the game and still pass protect and know his assignments , which I would assume at least Hardesty does , you play him. It is just simple football knowledge.
 
#37
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Sethbowers said:
I agree.

Foster needs to sit his butt on the bench. Hardesty has already shown he is quicker, faster and does not have a fumbling problem (or ball security problem to you Foster-ites).

I decided to purchase the game on PayPerView (i think Fulmer should refund everyone who purchased it). I was in total amazement (in a bad way) that Foster had the VAST MAJORITY of the snaps. The couple of times Hardesty got the ball he looked impressive, but he was straight to the sideline after his one carry

Just a thought..........Do you think its possible that Foster has something on Fulmer? Possible Kickbacks? Payment of somekind.? Recruiting Violation? And Fulmer is just scared he will rat him out? I can't imagine why a better, faster, smarter, SAFER back is sitting on the bench while he plays.
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NT
 
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#38
surely you have to understand that being so injury prone for the last couple of years is gonna make it hard to revolve your offense around hardesty. i think he's a great back and i believe we need to use him more but foster has proven to be depedable over the last few years and can take the abuse that comes along with playing in the sec. that has to mean something to our coaches. don't you agree?
 
#39
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volnation2217 said:
surely you have to understand that being so injury prone for the last couple of years is gonna make it hard to revolve your offense around hardesty. i think he's a great back and i believe we need to use him more but foster has proven to be depedable over the last few years and can take the abuse that comes along with playing in the sec. that has to mean something to our coaches. don't you agree?
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yes i do
 
#40
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VOLGRAD2006 said:
I really wish we would quit the line flopping. Its really a stupid concept and proves this season to be useless. There have been no noticable mismatches. We just need to line up and play smash mouth football without all the twists
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The fact that it's not working wonderfully in a particular small sample size fails to prove the stupidity or intelligence of a concept.
 
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#42
flipping your line is something that 1a high schools do because of the lack of talented depth. i know becuase i palyed in an offense that did it. i don't think that it is necessary for the vols to do it and it only makes being good at any position harder when you have to learn the proper footwork for both sides of the line. it also makes a qb a little unnerved not knowing for sure who or if anyone has his blind side on a blitz.
 
#44
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volnation2217 said:
flipping your line is something that 1a high schools do because of the lack of talented depth. i know becuase i palyed in an offense that did it. i don't think that it is necessary for the vols to do it and it only makes being good at any position harder when you have to learn the proper footwork for both sides of the line. it also makes a qb a little unnerved not knowing for sure who or if anyone has his blind side on a blitz.
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Curse the TSSAA and their backwards divisional numbering system! In fact, curse the TSSAA and the abomination they have wrought upon high school football. 320 high schools and 8 state titles....so curse Clint Satterfield for his nonstop bitching, strawmen, and red herrings.

Florida State used to flip their line quite a bit during their dynasty years. It's usually looked down upon as more of a cheap gimmick than something to be used more often, kind of like running the option or having a special teams coach at UT.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
The way the line has been coached the last five years, I'm in favor of running the power I with the line getting 6-inch splits up front and just driving straight ahead.
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i hate to ask,but what is 6-inch splits ? lineman close togethere?
 
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governmentmule said:
i hate to ask,but what is 6-inch splits ? lineman close togethere?
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Splits are the gap between the feet of the linemen from one player to the next. 2' and 3' splits are common (usually 2' between center and guards, 3' between guards and tackles).

So 6" splits would be fairly similar to a wedge on a kickoff return as far as effect goes (not the distance though).
 
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Ohio Vol said:
Splits are the gap between the feet of the linemen from one player to the next. 2' and 3' splits are common (usually 2' between center and guards, 3' between guards and tackles).

So 6" splits would be fairly similar to a wedge on a kickoff return as far as effect goes (not the distance though).
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thanks Ohio Vol,when i played guard in jr high we would go by foot size lol,now that i think about it,it makes sense ,i like your idea of the power I,smash mouth running
 
#48
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governmentmule said:
thanks Ohio Vol,when i played guard in jr high we would go by foot size lol,now that i think about it,it makes sense ,i like your idea of the power I,smash mouth running
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I'm looking at it less from the positive of a road-grading offense and more from simply covering various flaws.

I don't think the line could manage 6" splits anyway. They're not taught to lock on and drive, so actually getting more than two yards a pop is iffy.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
I'm looking at it less from the positive of a road-grading offense and more from simply covering various flaws.

I don't think the line could manage 6" splits anyway. They're not taught to lock on and drive, so actually getting more than two yards a pop is iffy.
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are they still doing the zone blocking ? i all ways liked the lock em up and push them back approach,good things happen then,i all ways liked it when i was told to hit that one guy and drive
 
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