Now that Missouri is in...schedule

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LAJBoys said:
I'm actually hoping you are correct so where did you come across this info
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DP is usually spot on. DP how will they integrate the newbies into the schedule. Who do you see being the other 2 East teams to pick up A&M besides Missouri?
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
DP is usually spot on. DP how will they integrate the newbies into the schedule. Who do you see being the other 2 East teams to pick up A&M besides Missouri?
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Missouri's joining the east, deerpark has already said this
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TrueOrange said:
Missouri's joining the east, deerpark has already said this
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I think he was saying that MIssouri will play A&M as the cross division opponent possibly and if we are at a nine game sec schedule, two others will as well. For instance UT and UF or something. I'm sure we won't hear anything anytime soon
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I'm hearing a lot of talk for Ark-Mizzou as cross-divisional rivals. Makes sense as they are the 2 closest geographically to each other. The casualty would be the USC-Ark "rivalry". The most obvious team to pick up Texas A&M would be USC. They're not going to break up Bama-UT or AUB-UGA. The LSU-UF game has been a great one over the last 10 years, so I'd hate to see it go. Only other cross-divisional rival games are Ole Miss-Vandy and MSU-UK.
 
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VolsRule said:
any good clubs for UT to party at U missouri next year?
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It will prob be a home game against Mizzou next year. We already have road games slated against UGA, Bama, USC and Vandy. Hope to make the trip in 2013 though.
 
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VolsRule said:
any good clubs for UT to party at U missouri next year?
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Depends. (though I think they're coming to neyland)


Would you be making the whole trip in a day or as a 2 day trip and stop in St Louis?
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#84
You guys really wants to move the UF game to later in the year?

If you lose, you can't catch up. That makes no sense to me.
 
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The Waco Kid said:
You guys really wants to move the UF game to later in the year?

If you lose, you can't catch up. That makes no sense to me.
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Tough game to jump out of the gate with. Most others have a few under their belt before jumping right into it. Honestly I really don't care either way. I like the build up the game had in 01 for late in the season. I hate the reason for the late game that year but that end of year game with championship game on the line possibly. Just a nice hype to a big game
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Mainly it's just a lack of comfort with the possibly divisional deciding game being the 2nd or 3rd game of the year



Under previous staffs Tennessee was traditionally felt to me more of a team that didn't hit full stride until mid to late year
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TrueOrange said:
Mainly it's just a lack of comfort with the possibly divisional deciding game being the 2nd or 3rd game of the year



Under previous staffs Tennessee was traditionally felt to me more of a team that didn't hit full stride until mid to late year
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agreed. tho as i think about it, the game, if it gets moved, will probably end up right before or after bama. if they could swap places on the schedule, with kentucky then its a good move
 
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txvolsfangatorh8r said:
agreed. tho as i think about it, the game, if it gets moved, will probably end up right before or after bama. if they could swap places on the schedule, with kentucky then its a good move
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Well that can't work/ UF would never agree to that for 2 reasons:

1) It can't work because the UK game with UT has pretty much become entrenched as the last game of the season...I believe that's when UF plays FSU traditionally so that can't really be a possible swap

2) If you're speaking with just regards towards putting them near/right before the end (presumably you mean the vandy game the week before), it'd be almost impossible to get UF to agree to a setup where they would have to play UT & FSU in back to back weeks. It would never happen nor would we (or anyone else in the conference) force them into such a position where they had to make such an agreement
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Ericvol2096 said:
DP is usually spot on. DP how will they integrate the newbies into the schedule. Who do you see being the other 2 East teams to pick up A&M besides Missouri?
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Only one east team will pick them up other than Mizzou, still at 8 conference games for at least the next two years.

They're going to try and make as few schedule adjustments as possible, plugging in Mizzou and A&M into slots replacing a cross-division game when possible.

The thought that Florida might open at Missouri is just a rumor at this point. Remember, two weeks ago, people swore Florida was going to open up at A&M, but that wasn't any more true than the latest rumor.

Some ADs want wholesale changes to the schedule, ala UT-Florida to later in the year, others prefer more stability. You probably won't see big schedule changes the first two years because of the delicate nature of non-conference games that have already been scheduled. It's not any easier for Troy and Ohio to move scheduled games than it is for Florida and Alabama.
 
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of two minds on mizzou. on paper, it makes all the sense in the world, great academics, two major metro centers, solid b.ball program. from personal knowledge, i'm not so sure. st. louis and kcmo may as well be on two different planets. neither is a hotbed of h.s. football talent or interest (as say the dallas/plano area). the most worrisome stat is that the state is dying. fifty years ago, it was one of the dynamic industrial centers. it had general motors and a major aircraft industry. those have gone by the boards and yet they are the bright spots. if you really want to see something depressing, check out the small towns in missouri. they are starting to resemble ghost towns as the family farms are replaced by agri businesses. a good gauge would be the state of tennessee. as late as the 60s, any comparison with missouri would have been considered idiotic. now, tennessee has surpassed missouri in population and is headed in different directions fast. ironically, the sec may prove to be missouri's salvation. had they gotten their west and been accepted by the big ten, they would have joined other dying states (the rust belt) whose best days ended in the 80s. i anticipate that in the next fifty years, that the true alumni of the sec are going to demand that their alma maters academic reputations start matching their football teams excellence. it was with some justification that texas considered itself too good a university to mingle with the likes of alabama or tennessee. oil money alone provided the difference. sec states like tennessee and georgia are catching up. i'm looking forward to it.
 
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PermaVol said:
I never cared about Mizzou before. Crappy football school in the lame big 12. Personally, don't feel they belong in the SEC so they have now catapulted to the level of hate I reserve for Bama and Florida.
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It's nice for someone to hate us right off the bat. We were wondering who to direct our anger at since we no longer are playing kansas. :)

As to Mizzou being a bad fit for the SEC, I guess only time will tell. We are extremely excited about the move, and I don't think there is any question that we can compete.

We are not an upper-tier program, but few are. Pinkel has done well against the SEC and he owns A$M. We are not expecting conference championships but there is no way that we become a doormat.

Many experts have historically regarded the Big 12 as the 2nd best conference so it's not like we are coming from conference USA. 40 wins in 4 years is no small feat.

This year we have the #1 toughest schedule in the country. We are not performing well but we are not complaining about the level of competition. We are now joining the big boys so BRING IT ON.
 
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Quantrill said:
It's nice for someone to hate us right off the bat. We were wondering who to direct our anger at since we no longer are playing kansas. :)

As to Mizzou being a bad fit for the SEC, I guess only time will tell. We are extremely excited about the move, and I don't think there is any question that we can compete.

We are not an upper-tier program, but few are. Pinkel has done well against the SEC and he owns A$M. We are not expecting conference championships but there is no way that we become a doormat.

Many experts have historically regarded the Big 12 as the 2nd best conference so it's not like we are coming from conference USA. 40 wins in 4 years is no small feat.

This year we have the #1 toughest schedule in the country. We are not performing well but we are not complaining about the level of competition. We are now joining the big boys so BRING IT ON.
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what?
 
#93
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Quantrill said:
It's nice for someone to hate us right off the bat. We were wondering who to direct our anger at since we no longer are playing kansas. :)

As to Mizzou being a bad fit for the SEC, I guess only time will tell. We are extremely excited about the move, and I don't think there is any question that we can compete.

We are not an upper-tier program, but few are. Pinkel has done well against the SEC and he owns A$M. We are not expecting conference championships but there is no way that we become a doormat.

Many experts have historically regarded the Big 12 as the 2nd best conference so it's not like we are coming from conference USA. 40 wins in 4 years is no small feat.

This year we have the #1 toughest schedule in the country. We are not performing well but we are not complaining about the level of competition. We are now joining the big boys so BRING IT ON.
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I agree that over the last 15 or 20 years collectively the Big 12 is probably the 2nd strongest conference.

So you all have the hardest schedule? I heard during our game last week that we had the 2nd toughest so I wondered who had the first.

We may pass you after we play at Arkansas this week!:cray:
 
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Quantrill said:
It's nice for someone to hate us right off the bat. We were wondering who to direct our anger at since we no longer are playing kansas. :)

As to Mizzou being a bad fit for the SEC, I guess only time will tell. We are extremely excited about the move, and I don't think there is any question that we can compete.

We are not an upper-tier program, but few are. Pinkel has done well against the SEC and he owns A$M. We are not expecting conference championships but there is no way that we become a doormat.

Many experts have historically regarded the Big 12 as the 2nd best conference so it's not like we are coming from conference USA. 40 wins in 4 years is no small feat.

This year we have the #1 toughest schedule in the country. We are not performing well but we are not complaining about the level of competition. We are now joining the big boys so BRING IT ON.
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Welcome to the SEC and VN board. Think the Mizzou fans making the trip to Neyland will enjoy the game day experience.:clapping:
 
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#97
Not sure if this has been brought up...but with an 8 game schedule there's a chance we'll have to play in Tuscaloosa next year too.

Each team will have two non-divisional opponents: one permanent (Bama-Tenn, Auburn-UGA, etc.) and one rotating. To make the rotation work, all of the permanent games will have to be aligned...meaning all the East teams play their permanent games at home in the same year, all on the road the next year (otherwise, some of the West teams would never rotate on our schedule while keeping an even number of home and away SEC games).

So if I'm thinking about this correctly, either we go on the road again to Bama next year (so all the West teams are at home...this would hurt Florida vs. LSU too), or Auburn gets hosed and plays at UGA again next year (so all the East teams are at home).

If this did happen to Tennessee, it wouldn't be all that devastating. At least we'd have road dates vs. Florida and Bama in different years going forward.
 
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#98
I am confused... how would we be playing bama at bama again? I don't see why that would need to be the case.
 
#99
#99
Poppa T said:
Welcome to the SEC and VN board. Think the Mizzou fans making the trip to Neyland will enjoy the game day experience.:clapping:
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Ditto, and now with that being said.... Your team sucks and I hate your face. SEC Wooooo!
 
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DjCrenshaw said:
I am confused... how would we be playing bama at bama again? I don't see why that would need to be the case.
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It's just a possibility...and for the record I think it's more likely that the Auburn-UGA game is played in Athens two years in a row.

Next year we'll have 6 East opponents to play instead of 5, and I'm assuming 3 of those will be at home and 3 will be on the road.

So we'll then have to play 1 of our West opponents at home and 1 on the road for an even 4/4 home and away split. If the location of the permanent rivalries are mixed up...say 4 at East team homes, and the other 3 at West team homes...then the rotating games just won't balance out going forward. The only solution I see is to make sure the permanent rivalry games are all played at East homes or all at West homes in a given year. Then you can rotate the other non-division teams seamlessly from year to year.

Another consequence of this is that Arkansas probably isn't coming to Knoxville next year. If anything, they'll drop off our schedule (or I guess we could go back to Fayetteville again).

It's a mess, but it's not unprecedented. Oklahoma is playing Okie State in Stillwater for the second year in a row this year, thanks to Nebraska and Colorado leaving.
 
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