Not honoring Pruitt's contract

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madbamahater said:
Imagine this scenerio Doug....

You hire a contractor to come in and do extensive work on your home or build you a home. You enter into a contract. The contractor is obligated to build in accordance with the local and state code requirements (the law) and you are obligated to pay the contractor per the terms of the contract......Well, said contractor gets to work and during the project, it is discovered that the builder didn't build to code. If fact, there are multiple codes violations. So many, it's deemed unfit for human inhabitants.

The contractor is not only in violation of the laws that govern the industry standards, the contractor is in violation of contractoral agreement. At that point, the other party is not responsible for compensation.

Now, I'm the farthest thing from an attorney, but this should be common knowledge.

If there are any attorneys, please chime in.....
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Great analogy.
I’m no lawyer either, but to me it’s just common sense......
 
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SInce Foolmer is GONE, Doug Mathews is GONE. This is guy is totally irrelative. BTW, good riddance !!
 
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We can all point to the "reasons" for the way Pruitt was ousted, but DM is making the greater point that the coaching community may look at this like it was an obvious "hit-job." That almost speaks even more loudly about the environment created by the administration and boosters than it does Pruitt's failures.

Only time will tell.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Problem with Tennessee job is it’s one of the hardest places to win in the country, administration is incompetent, and boosters are meddling. A good AD can help a lot but the stink isn’t going to wear off overnight.
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These are the root causes for our lack of recent success. I think the university discounted the positive effects of strong championship caliber athletics. Just look at the increase Bama and Florida and Clemson see in student enrollment. Athletics and academics form a symbiotic relationship fueled by each other’s success.

Now the boosters see the dysfunction of the administration. They want to fix it and try to meddle. This is not the answer as their meddling further adds to the dysfunctional atmosphere.

Fix the administration’s issues and the meddling might just go away also. Success breeds success.
 
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Last week Doug said they’d be a settlement. Now he’s saying UT should honor the contract. He’s obviously still spinning the Fulmer view.

Hell, Tennessee has paid off more than the lottery & Vegas combined to worthless coaches and still don’t have a parade of anyone wanting the job so screw them. Tennessee has a good coach, better than the last 3 for sure.
 
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knoxvol16 said:
We can all point to the "reasons" for the way Pruitt was ousted, but DM is making the greater point that the coaching community may look at this like it was an obvious "hit-job." That almost speaks even more loudly about the environment created by the administration and boosters than it does Pruitt's failures.

Only time will tell.
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Head coaches who cheat don't want to be held accountable for their cheating.
 
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Doug has been around college football enough to know that every school is providing some kind of incentive to land the best athletes. It’s always been that way and for the most part; everybody keeps their mouth shut. The admins at Tennessee can try to spin that they just want to run a clean program but at the end of the day; we all know why they really did it. Tennessee being the first program to self incriminate just to get out of paying buyouts is pathetic and ignorant and certainly has a lot of coaches in the profession shaking their heads.
 
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wmcovol said:
Last week Doug said they’d be a settlement. Now he’s saying UT should honor the contract. He’s obviously still spinning the Fulmer view.

Hell, Tennessee has paid off more than the lottery & Vegas combined to worthless coaches and still don’t have a parade of anyone wanting the job so screw them. Tennessee has a good coach, better than the last 3 for sure.
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He will probably go into total meltdown mode when Cornbread isn't paid jack sh*t.
 
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If Doug wanted to contribute several million dollars to the University to fund Pruitt's buyout/settlement, I'm sure it would be accepted
 
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JBVolunteer said:
Doug has been around college football enough to know that every school is providing some kind of incentive to land the best athletes. It’s always been that way and for the most part; everybody keeps their mouth shut. The admins at Tennessee can try to spin that they just want to run a clean program but at the end of the day; we all know why they really did it. Tennessee being the first program to self incriminate just to get out of paying buyouts is pathetic and ignorant and certainly has a lot of coaches in the profession shaking their heads.
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It's time to end that corrupt culture once and for all and i'm totally for Cornbread not getting one cent of his buyout.
 
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Border Vol said:
It's time to end that corrupt culture once and for all and i'm totally for Cornbread not getting one cent of his buyout.
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It’s certainly a corrupt culture but so is politics, Wall Street, corporate America.... It’s just the world we live in. The admins acting like Pruitt and staff did something outside the norms of college football and that this was all motivated by the desire to run a clean program is embarrassing really.
 
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I just listened to DM's podcast and that is not exactly what he said. He was talking about when the optimal time to fire a head coach would be, and circumstances surrounding those decisions. He was talking about how potential coaching candidates look at the timing and circumstances surrounding firing a coach. He said in the context of the school firing for cause, and not paying a buyout: quote: "that could be good, and that could be bad." I think he clearly meant that if a school uses a pretext to fire a coach for cause for some trumped up reason, that potential new hires would view that negatively, which of course they would. He expressly said that he wasn't getting in the middle of the legal dispute between Pruitt and UT. Said the legal system would figure that out. Others may interpret his remarks differently, but I think that's what he meant.
 
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Dustin4Vols said:
So you don’t think nick saban, dabo, Kirby, etc.. cheat? You are foolish if you think so. Competition is all about doing everything you can to gain a competitive edge.
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Even Matthews said recruiting Mims dirty was stupid. 1) he was out of state, 2) most of his family wanted him at Ga, 3) all of his support at school (coaches, principal, etc) were Ga fans.
 
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1200DPI said:
Doug Mathews is concerned that UT may not honor Pruitt's contract. He believes coaches may say "no thanks" when UT comes calling. They won't be able to trust UT.
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He can be fired for cause and Tennessee will still be honoring his contract.

I suspect a settlement of one years salary will be the end outcome ($4 millionish).
 
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JBVolunteer said:
Doug has been around college football enough to know that every school is providing some kind of incentive to land the best athletes. It’s always been that way and for the most part; everybody keeps their mouth shut. The admins at Tennessee can try to spin that they just want to run a clean program but at the end of the day; we all know why they really did it. Tennessee being the first program to self incriminate just to get out of paying buyouts is pathetic and ignorant and certainly has a lot of coaches in the profession shaking their heads.
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Who gives a rats ass? Get rid of the corruption. Kuddos to UT for taking a stand. He shouldn't be compensated if found to have broken rules. Just plain and simple
 
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