North Korea Threatens "Preemptive Nuclear Attack"

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North Korean diplomacy is replete with the alarms of war. Bellicose utterances are the norm from the North, but Kim Jong Un has raised the North's saber rattling to a very dangerous extreme. Didn't it just declare an end to the armistice? Now comes the threat of a nuclear strike.

"An unidentified spokesman for Pyongyang's Foreign Ministry said the North will exercise its right for 'a preemptive nuclear attack to destroy the strongholds of the aggressors' because Washington is pushing to start a nuclear war against the North."
Furious Over Sanctions, NKorea Vows to Nuke US - ABC News

Given the disparity of nuclear weapons between North Korea and the United States, this talk is nothing short of insanely suicidal. Surely it is all bluff and bluster, but the statement is nonetheless a declaration of intent by North Korea to launch a nuclear attack on the United States. Doesn't that give the U.S. a right and responsibility to take out the North's nuclear weapons? At the very least, concerned nations should establish agreements with firm protocols to avoid a nuclear "Guns of August" scenario.
 
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I thought Rodman smoothed things over with North Korea? His good looks and suave personality have our relationship with NK on the rebound.
 
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NK is like the little 4 year old that likes to go around showing his junk to everybody because he thinks its funny. It's inappropriate and stupid, but in the end we all laugh and tell him to put it away or he gets a timeout.
 
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rjd970 said:
NK is like the little 4 year old that likes to go around showing his junk to everybody because he thinks its funny. It's inappropriate and stupid, but in the end we all laugh and tell him to put it away or he gets a timeout.
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Problem is that the North Koreans are not children showing their junk. They are outlaws with a nation state which periodically commits acts of war. People die. This declaration of intent to attack America with nuclear weapons is a casus belli. Concerned nations should hold serious discussions about taking them out.
 
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The chi-coms are the only country with any real influence in the region and they have chosen to ignore the situation. If we had a potus with any nads ,things would be totally different ....Kim jong loon needs to be taken down a peg or two.
 
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rjd970 said:
NK is like the little 4 year old that likes to go around showing his junk to everybody because he thinks its funny. It's inappropriate and stupid, but in the end we all laugh and tell him to put it away or he gets a timeout.
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North Korea wanting to nuke U.S. brings to your mind a 4 year old's privates?
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FLVOL69 said:
The chi-coms are the only country with any real influence in the region and they have chosen to ignore the situation. If we had a potus with any nads ,things would be totally different ....Kim jong loon needs to be taken down a peg or two.
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North Korea would not exist if not for China. Reports are that China supports the pending U.N. sanctions against North Korea. If that is true, I believe it is the first time China has ever done that. It could represent a significant shift in Sino-Korean relations. I doubt that North Korea's declaring a "preemptive nuclear attack" on the United States will be received well among China's leaders. They might decide that it's time for their crazy former ally to go.
 
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FLVOL69 said:
I pray your right...Vm
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I also wish I were right, but China has a huge concern that holds them back. It's not just the old strategic concern of Korea becoming a spearhead of military invasion. It's the foreseeable replacement government in North Korea. The U.N. and South Korea would press for an elected government to replace the communist dictatorship. China is no longer communist, but it is still a one party monopoly without elections. They might not welcome a democratic wave coming at them. They might plan their own changes, but whatever their plans, I doubt they want to risk potential outside influences on their own internal politics. Still, the Chinese might regard change in North Korea as a far less threatening risk than a crazy regime starting nuclear war on their border. That is exactly what North Korea declared it will do, and that is not the sort of thing people incline to ignore.
 
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Vol Main said:
North Korean diplomacy is replete with the alarms of war. Bellicose utterances are the norm from the North, but Kim Jong Un has raised the North's saber rattling to a very dangerous extreme. Didn't it just declare an end to the armistice? Now comes the threat of a nuclear strike.

"An unidentified spokesman for Pyongyang's Foreign Ministry said the North will exercise its right for 'a preemptive nuclear attack to destroy the strongholds of the aggressors' because Washington is pushing to start a nuclear war against the North."
Furious Over Sanctions, NKorea Vows to Nuke US - ABC News

Given the disparity of nuclear weapons between North Korea and the United States, this talk is nothing short of insanely suicidal. Surely it is all bluff and bluster, but the statement is nonetheless a declaration of intent by North Korea to launch a nuclear attack on the United States. Doesn't that give the U.S. a right and responsibility to take out the North's nuclear weapons? At the very least, concerned nations should establish agreements with firm protocols to avoid a nuclear "Guns of August" scenario.
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Fringe outrage.
 
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Vol Main said:
I also wish I were right, but China has a huge concern that holds them back. It's not just the old strategic concern of Korea becoming a spearhead of military invasion. It's the foreseeable replacement government in North Korea. The U.N. and South Korea would press for an elected government to replace the communist dictatorship. China is no longer communist, but it is still a one party monopoly without elections. They might not welcome a democratic wave coming at them. They might plan their own changes, but whatever their plans, I doubt they want to risk potential outside influences on their own internal politics. Still, the Chinese might regard change in North Korea as a far less threatening risk than a crazy regime starting nuclear war on their border. That is exactly what North Korea declared it will do, and that is not the sort of thing people incline to ignore.
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1) The Chinese has elections.

2) NK isn't going to anything too stupid.

3) China has this under control.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
1) The Chinese has elections.

2) NK isn't going to anything too stupid.

3) China has this under control.
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1. Good point. I probably should not have been so dismissive about the China's complicated web of elections. Fact is that I do not understand it. Regardless of their developing processes, I believe it true that China remains virtually a one party monopoly.

2. NK already did something stupid. They have done a lot of things that are stupid, acts of war. Declaring a nuclear first strike is colossally stupid.

3. If China has this under control, then why did it happen? Do you really believe that China approved North Korea declaring it will launch a nuclear attack against the United States?

4. Point one might mitigate against China having major concerns about pulling the plug on the current regime in North Korea.
 
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Vol Main said:
1. Good point. I probably should not have been so dismissive about the China's complicated web of elections. Fact is that I do not understand it. Regardless of their developing processes, I believe it true that China remains virtually a one party monopoly.
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At the highest levels, yes. At the lower levels, no.

They do have elections but do not have universal suffrage. America could learn a thing or two from them in that respect.

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2. NK already did something stupid. They have done a lot of things that are stupid, acts of war. Declaring a nuclear first strike is colossally stupid.
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Words are meaningless. They are haven't done anything "colossally stupid" yet.

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3. If China has this under control, then why did it happen? Do you really believe that China approved North Korea declaring it will launch a nuclear attack against the United States?
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They don't control their every action. NK knows they have to have China on their side if they go to war. Thus, they listen to China. China could care less about meaningless propaganda. China also assists them in other ways.

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4. Point one might mitigate against China having major concerns about pulling the plug on the current regime in North Korea.
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No doubt that North Korea is a buffer that they wholly intend to support and keep in place.
 
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Why don't we call their bluff. Park a carrier over by them and all but dare them. This way they will shut up. Every week it's something new with these guys.

It's a waste of bandwidth
 
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