Noah's Ark Encounter Opens In Kentucky

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MercyPercy said:
The end of our last glacial period was approximately that long ago, and there was obviously flooding associated with it. However, it didn't cover most of the land mass in water, much less the tops of our highest mountains. At most, it's an argument for some flood myths have some basis in actual flooding that occurred due to the end of the last glacial period- not far fetched. It's not an argument for anything close to a literal interpretation of the story.
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You should hear Kent Hovinds theory on the flood and ice age. It's a doozy
 
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MercyPercy said:
I'm sure it is. Young earth creationists say the darndest things.
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In a nutshell, he believes a comet came hurtling towards earth, broke apart, the ice from the comet settled mainly on the north and south poles, creating what's left of the polar ice caps today, which also caused the earth to wobble on its axis (prior to this he believes the earth rotated perfectly straight) the ice caps melted, which combined with rain and the water from under the earth, created the world wide flood from the Noah story.
 
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volfan_89 said:
In a nutshell, he believes a comet came hurtling towards earth, broke apart, the ice from the comet settled mainly on the north and south poles, creating what's left of the polar ice caps today, which also caused the earth to wobble on its axis (prior to this he believes the earth rotated perfectly straight) the ice caps melted, which combined with rain and the water from under the earth, created the world wide flood from the Noah story.
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Seems legit
 
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MercyPercy said:
I'm sure it is. Young earth creationists say the darndest things.
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I find it odd that anyone believes in a young earth.
G-d describes Himself as "the creator" "the ancient of days" "without beginning or end" and many other titles that are similar.
To me it doesn't fit that G-d, who is infinant and speaks of being a creator, would finally decide 6000 years ago to to make some stuff.
 
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there is plenty of evidence and facts that supports a world wide flood. silliness is believing that some footprint made by a dinosaur some how survived the elements for billions of years to become a fossil. The flood is a way more feasible argument to explain how fossils were preserved.
 
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theutvolunteers said:
I don't know anything about the Bible, but FYI.
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That meme is untrue, by definition, in any way that would threaten the Biblical story of the flood, even from a young-earth perspective.

There is absolutely NO continuous culture that threatens the Biblical flood narrative, as the meme states.

Archaeological evidence indicates that the transition from food-collecting cultures to food-producing ones gradually occurred across Asia and Europe from a starting point in the Fertile Crescent. The first evidence of cultivation and animal domestication in southwestern Asia has been dated to roughly 9500 bce, which suggests that those activities may have begun before that date. A way of life based on farming and settled villages had been firmly achieved by 7000 bce in the Tigris and Euphrates river valleys (now in Iraq and Iran) and in what are now Syria, Israel, Lebanon, and Jordan. Those earliest farmers raised barley and wheat and kept sheep and goats, later supplemented by cattle and pigs. Their innovations spread from the Middle East northward into Europe by two routes: across Turkey and Greece into central Europe, and across Egypt and North Africa and thence to Spain. Farming communities appeared in Greece as early as 7000 bce, and farming spread northward throughout the continent over the next four millennia. This long and gradual transition was not completed in Britain and Scandinavia until after 3000 bce and is known as the Mesolithic Period.

Neolithic technologies also spread eastward to the Indus River valley of India by 5000 bce. Farming communities based on millet and rice appeared in the Huang He (Yellow River) valley of China and in Southeast Asia by about 3500 bce. Neolithic modes of life were achieved independently in the New World. Corn (maize), beans, and squash were gradually domesticated in Mexico and Central America from 6500 bce on, though sedentary village life did not commence there until much later, at about 2000 bce.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Neolithic-Period
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The earliest evidence for art in any form in ancient China consists of crude cord-marked pottery and artifacts decorated with geometric designs found in Mesolithic sites in northern China and in the Guangdong-Guangxi regions. The dating for prehistoric culture in China is still very uncertain, but this material is probably at least 7,000 or 8,000 years old.

https://www.britannica.com/art/Chinese-pottery
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So... They found pre-flood pottery (indicating that there were people there, which the Bible indicates as well), but civilization moving in much later from the fertile crescent.

Egypt:

Period - years

Phase (Kaiser)

Tombs - Other objects - Rulers

Suggested Sequence

Amratian
(c. 3900)

Naqada Iabc, IIa

(Abydos tomb U-239)
(Hierakonpolis Loc. 6, tombs 3, 6)
B-, P-, C- class pottery

Early rhomboidal palettes, undecorated or with incised drawings

Gerzean

(c. 3600)

Naqada IIb

Decorated Pottery (D-class)
(Naqada tomb 1411, T4)
Gebelein painted cloth (IIc?)

From rhomboidal shapes to fusiform, with appendices and animal heads on the edge

Naqada IIc/d1,2

Wavy handled pottery (W-class)
Brooklyn, Carnarvon knife handles (Naqada IIc-IIIa)
(NOTE: Abu Zeidan t.32, which contained the Brooklyn knife-handle, dates early Naqada III)
(Hierakonpolis tomb 100).
(Abydos t. U-q, U-547; knife handle in t. U-503 and fragments from U-127)

Zoomorphous palettes
(fishes, turtles, mammals)
Ostrich palette
Gerzeh palette
Min palette



Late Predynastic
(c. 3300)

Naqada IIIa1,2

(Hierakonpolis Loc. 6, tomb 11)
Scorpion I (Abydos tomb U-j)

Louvre palette
Oxford palette
Hunters palette


D
Y
N
A
S
T
Y

0



Naqada IIIb1

(Seyala tomb 137.1; Qustul tomb L24)
Horizon A
Anonymous Serekhs, Double Falcon,
Ny-Hor, Pe-Hor, Hat-Hor, Hedj-Hor; (Iry-Hor)
(Gebel Sheikh Suleiman graffito)
(Hierakonpolis Loc. 6, tomb 10)

Metropolitan Mus. palette
Battlefield (Vultures) palette
Bull palette
Tehenu palette
Plover palette
Narmer Palette
(end of Narmer's reign c.3000)

Protodynastic
(c. 3150-3000)

Naqada IIIb2/c1

Horizon B
Tarkhan Crocodile, Hk (?) Scorpion II, Abydos: Iry Hor, Ka, Narmer
(Hierakonpolis Loc. 6, tomb 1)

Sorry for the lay-out, can be viewed here: The Prehistory of Egypt
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What we see globally is a pretty much universal prehistoric semi-global population, with early civilization spreading globally from the fertile crescent.

What the Bible describes in Genesis (with no definitive time-stamp) is a pretty much universal semi-global population that was wiped out by the flood, with civilization spreading globally from the fertile crescent through Noah's offspring.

Take issue with it if you want. There's a lot of faith involved in taking the story at face value. But don't stoop to posting misinformation to prove your POV while accusing Ken Ham of doing just that.
 
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joevol320 said:
there is plenty of evidence and facts that supports a world wide flood. silliness is believing that some footprint made by a dinosaur some how survived the elements for billions of years to become a fossil. The flood is a way more feasible argument to explain how fossils were preserved.
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Damn right Bobby. It were the Holy Land it weren't Jurassic Park this is Bulls..t
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvFpagtvV8E[/youtube]
 
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My Jesus, he didn't slay those philistines with the jawbone of a brontosaurus rex, and MOSES, when he crossed that dead sea, he didn't do it on the wings of a pterodactyl!
 
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#596
joevol320 said:
LOL, coming from a guy who loves obama. we have plenty of fantasy from the evolution crowd about the silliness of evolution which is funded by tax dollars.
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Joe, your mentally ill evil twin showed up. I thought you locked him in a closet?
 
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