'No judge, jury, law or treaty is going to fix this level of corruption'

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landscapingvol said:
You mean the political class operates on a completely different set of rules? Don’t show LG or Luther this, only Trump does that or so I have been told.
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Yep!

And if you are a gifted speaker, and give the libs the warm and fuzzies, you can drop an unprecedented amount of bombs, extend wars, kill kids with drones, spy on the media etc. and still be called a Nobel Prize winner and an inspiration to the world.

It’s amazing how these rules are applied.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So to be clear, if no judge, jury, law or treaty will fix it (I would add voting), then WTF is left?

I know what's left in my mind, but I'm curious to know what you guys think is the next option.
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Fighting back. And I'm not talking about mean tweets or harsh criticisms.

Now what do you think is the next option.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So to be clear, if no judge, jury, law or treaty will fix it (I would add voting), then WTF is left?

I know what's left in my mind, but I'm curious to know what you guys think is the next option.
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We know what option you have in mind Russian troll.

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OrangeTsar said:
There is a third way. Refuse to participate in the farce. Do not be a willing contributor to your own destruction. Just walk away. Violence is their tool, not ours.
Who is John Galt?
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In a way, you saw some of the John Galt going on with the resignations for the jab.

But that needs to be stepped up a lot more.
 
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So, the allegations when they are against democrats are accepted without question? You complain when democrats operate this way, but it's okay when the shoe is on the other foot. Good grief.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
So, the allegations when they are against democrats are accepted without question? You complain when democrats operate this way, but it's okay when the shoe is on the other foot. Good grief.
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None of them , I trust none of them . All you have to do is watch a congressional hearing . When congress can’t get the heads of the agencies they created and have over sight on to answers direct questions … I don’t trust any of them !
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
In a way, you saw some of the John Galt going on with the resignations for the jab.

But that needs to be stepped up a lot more.
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As the economy falls apart, the left will eventually expect us to fix their mess for them. The whole plot of Atlas Shrugged is what happens when the producers and thinkers simply stop saving the day. Going Galt is simply to let the moochers own their own mess and to stop saving their bacon for them. Of course, as that happens, the moochers will try and coerce you into fixing things for them. That is when the producers have to stand firm by be willing to watch the whole economic engine grind to a halt. I am not sure we have enough strength of will to do that. We like to make things work and thrive.
Especially since a totally moribund US economy will not exist in a vacuum and China and our other adversaries would take quick advantage of such an opportunity
 
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0nelilreb said:
None of them , I trust none of them . All you have to do is watch a congressional hearing . When congress can’t get the heads of the agencies they created and have over sight on to answers direct questions … I don’t trust any of them !
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Those agency heads are just figureheads anyway. The bureaucracies do what they want to do which is mainly exist and procreate - they are run by empire builders who seek to expand empires. The guy at the top probably doesn't even know what goes on; and the bureaucracy doesn't care. In a few years (or months) the new guy at the top will be gone and they'll just have his replacement to stonewall.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
As the economy falls apart, the left will eventually expect us to fix their mess for them. The whole plot of Atlas Shrugged is what happens when the producers and thinkers simply stop saving the day. Going Galt is simply to let the moochers own their own mess and to stop saving their bacon for them. Of course, as that happens, the moochers will try and coerce you into fixing things for them. That is when the producers have to stand firm by be willing to watch the whole economic engine grind to a halt. I am not sure we have enough strength of will to do that. We like to make things work and thrive.
Especially since a totally moribund US economy will not exist in a vacuum and China and our other adversaries would take quick advantage of such an opportunity
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It's not in our national psyche to sit back and let things fail. We're too devoted to fixing it to let the failures sink like they should. Look at the 2008 bailouts; a lot of companies richly deserved to die for the crap they did to make it happen.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
More sovereign citizen BS. He does this every 4 weeks or so
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I wish I could have been a fly on the wall the day they showed that sovereign citizen power point. You really came away with that messaging seared into your brain. That must have been one hell of a workshop.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
As the economy falls apart, the left will eventually expect us to fix their mess for them. The whole plot of Atlas Shrugged is what happens when the producers and thinkers simply stop saving the day. Going Galt is simply to let the moochers own their own mess and to stop saving their bacon for them. Of course, as that happens, the moochers will try and coerce you into fixing things for them. That is when the producers have to stand firm by be willing to watch the whole economic engine grind to a halt. I am not sure we have enough strength of will to do that. We like to make things work and thrive.
Especially since a totally moribund US economy will not exist in a vacuum and China and our other adversaries would take quick advantage of such an opportunity
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Nope
 
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StarRaider said:
Heck fire, this is nothing new from the socialists.... Johnson put a fbi operative into Goldwater's campaign office.

The FBI Spied for LBJ’s Campaign
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... and you think that spying on a presidential campaign is exclusive to one party? Ever heard of the June 17, 1972 break-in at the DNC headquarters in the Watergate Hotel? The purpose of that was to wiretap offices. Who do you think was behind that operation? E. Howard Hunt (a former CIA operative) and G. Gordon Liddy (a former FBI agent) organized the break-in, which was carried out by 5 burglars, including James McCord, who had also previously worked for the CIA and the FBI.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
... and you think that spying on a presidential campaign is exclusive to one party? Ever heard of the June 17, 1972 break-in at the DNC headquarters in the Watergate Hotel? The purpose of that was to wiretap offices. Who do you think was behind that operation? E. Howard Hunt (a former CIA operative) and G. Gordon Liddy (a former FBI agent) organized the break-in, which was carried out by 5 burglars, including James McCord, who had also previously worked for the CIA and the FBI.
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Are you seriously comparing private citizens spying on a political opponent to a federal agency doing it?
 
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hog88 said:
Are you seriously comparing private citizens spying on a political opponent to a federal agency doing it?
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That is an incomplete description of the people who organized and participated in the Watergate break-in.

Those "private citizens" were working for the President of the United States (Richard Nixon's) re-election campaign, through a fundraising organization known as the Committee to Reelect the President (CREEP) ... Yes. I'm comparing those individuals to the federal agencies that they had recently been members of... and let's not forget the significant role that Attorney General, John Mitchell, played as well. He went to prison for a reason.
 
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