No home UK game

#76
#76
It's Vanderbilt's fault. They don't have any other rivals, so we got stuck with them. It should be Tennessee-Kentucky, Florida-Georgia, and South Carolina-Vandy. "But Vandy and South Carolina aren't rivals!" Neither are Georgia and South Carolina! At least with my proposition, it makes a lot more sense. The rivalry of UK-UT and UGA-UF>>>>>>UT-VU, UGA-USC, UK-UF.
 
#81
#81
Realignment bull****. This is ****ed up

They should have just gone with a 4-1-8 schedule instead of a 1-4-8.

It would have kept more of the traditional rivals playing and better ingrained the new schools with some teams that could in the long run, become better rivals with them.

Instead, they just got all gung-ho / excited about UK and UF playing and that's it.
 
#82
#82
It's Vanderbilt's fault. They don't have any other rivals, so we got stuck with them. It should be Tennessee-Kentucky, Florida-Georgia, and South Carolina-Vandy. "But Vandy and South Carolina aren't rivals!" Neither are Georgia and South Carolina! At least with my proposition, it makes a lot more sense. The rivalry of UK-UT and UGA-UF>>>>>>UT-VU, UGA-USC, UK-UF.

It's not Vandy's fault. It's the conference commish and company view UK and UF as the conference's good/ most successful basketball schools currently and as such want to make sure they play every year, hoping in turn to make sure / turn it into a big game series (between, to them, what are their most successful and most money/attention-grabbing teams at the moment, with traditions and rivalries put aside)

It's got nothing to do with "uh-oh, vanderbilt doesn't have a rival"
 
#84
#84
He actually just wants to play them yearly in Indianapolis, for recruiting and exposure reasons.




bingo

Yeah not wanting to play them in Bloomington was partly because he knew he had young players and didn't know if they could "handle" an environment like that. If I was IU I wouldn't want to play in Indianapolis. They pull that talent already.
 
#86
#86
Yeah not wanting to play them in Bloomington was partly because he knew he had young players and didn't know if they could "handle" an environment like that. If I was IU I wouldn't want to play in Indianapolis. They pull that talent already.

And that's why Cal wanted to play there, so he and UK could open that door as well (to pulling that talent, regularly)
 
#87
#87
Article from MRSEC on the matter of UK and UT not playing each other in Knoxville this year.

No Kentucky-Tennessee Hoops Game In Knoxville This Year… It Didn’t Have To Be That Way

When the SEC expanded, there were bound to be some lost rivalries and some lost traditions. But the best rivalries and traditions could have and should have been protected by the SEC presidents and athletic directors. Instead, they went down the easiest road… and perhaps the SEC’s best basketball rivalry is now suffering.

Tennessee coach Cuonzo Martin confirmed yesterday that Kentucky will not be visiting Knoxville this year. It will mark the first time since 1952-53 that UK hasn’t visited UT. The two schools have met on the hardwood 216 times. In the SEC, only Ole Miss and Mississippi State have played more often (247 games).

But not only have the two schools played on a regular basis, Tennessee has traditionally been Kentucky’s best in-conference test. Vanderbilt has beaten UK 46 times in their series. Alabama has 37 wins against the Cats; Florida has 34. Tennessee has 67 wins — 20 more than any other school in the league — against Kentucky. Granted, the Wildcats have a “slight” lead in the series with 149 wins of their own, but no one has frustrated Kentucky over the years like Tennessee.

Those are saying that this is just a by-product of expansion, are totally and completely wrong.

In January of 2012, we posted a plan for SEC basketball scheduling that would have involved an 18-game slate, a divisionless set-up, and a 4-1-8 rotation. The four permanent opponents would be played twice each. One rotating foe would also be played twice. The remaining eight league teams would be played once each.

That plan would have protected many, many more rivalries than the SEC’s current 1-4-8 format. Under the current league plan, only one series is protected as a yearly home-and-home matchup. Four rotating opponents are also played twice.

In other words, the powers-that-be in the SEC got things completely, 100% backwards. Under our system, many more rivalries would have been protected and new geographical-based rivalries created:



* Four of Alabama’s five most-played series

* Two of Arkansas’ most-played SEC series would have been protected along with two games each against Missouri and Texas A&M

* Three of Auburn’s four most-played series

* Three of Florida’s five most-played series

* Georgia’s three most-played series

* Kentucky would have had two most-played series saved as well as two games per year against Missouri

* LSU would have had two most-played series protected as well as two games per year against Arkansas and Texas A&M

* Mississippi State’s three most-played series

* Ole Miss’ three most-played series

* Four of South Carolina’s five most-played series

* Four of Tennessee’s five most-played series

* Texas A&M would have had two games against Missouri, Arkansas and LSU

* Vanderbilt’s two most-played series



Classic rivalries in football (Auburn-Georgia, Alabama-Tennessee) and in basketball (Tennessee-Kentucky, Florida-Georgia) are part of the SEC’s very DNA. The stewards of the league must work as hard as possible to find a way to protect games with historical value.

In this case, very little work was required. We’d given them the best blueprint available for a 14-team, 18-game scheduling format, but they chose to gone in the complete opposite direction. When they did, we knew that a season would soon roll ’round when one or more of the SEC’s most-played basketball series were not scheduled for home-and-home matchups. That season is upon us.

Somewhere Adolph Rupp and Ray Mears are rolling over in their graves.

Shame on Mike Slive and the SEC schedule-makers. On this front, they have failed embarrassingly.
 
#88
#88
Yeah, Cal only plays in the SEC tourney to please his fans.

Not quite what I said, straw man.

Lol, you really just said this?

Proof that neither of you know what you are talking about.

Kentucky Coach John Calipari still not a fan of SEC Tournament | Basketball: Men | Kentucky.com

Calipari bleeds blah for SEC tourney, 'but we'll be there' | 2012 NCAA Championship | Kentucky.com

While Kentucky overwhelmed the Southeastern Conference this season, the league tournament underwhelms John Calipari.

"Three games in three days doesn't prepare you for anything," Calipari said Tuesday as UK began preparations for the SEC Tournament later in the week. "We just played a whole league schedule."Calipari, who has long made no secret of his lukewarm, at best, attitude about league tournaments, acknowledged how the SEC Tournament (Thursday through Sunday in New Orleans) appeals to UK fans who can't attend a game in Rupp Arena.

"Fans spend their vacation money, their rent money, their cigarette money, and they go to this tournament," Calipari said. "... You almost feel an obligation. Let's go play."

 
#89
#89
Cal hates the SEC tourney and is only there because the fans love it. I wouldn't bet on UK winning it. Their eyes are on a different prize.

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#91
#91
Not quite what I said, straw man.



Proof that neither of you know what you are talking about.

Kentucky Coach John Calipari still not a fan of SEC Tournament | Basketball: Men | Kentucky.com

Calipari bleeds blah for SEC tourney, 'but we'll be there' | 2012 NCAA Championship | Kentucky.com

While Kentucky overwhelmed the Southeastern Conference this season, the league tournament underwhelms John Calipari.

"Three games in three days doesn't prepare you for anything," Calipari said Tuesday as UK began preparations for the SEC Tournament later in the week. "We just played a whole league schedule."Calipari, who has long made no secret of his lukewarm, at best, attitude about league tournaments, acknowledged how the SEC Tournament (Thursday through Sunday in New Orleans) appeals to UK fans who can't attend a game in Rupp Arena.

"Fans spend their vacation money, their rent money, their cigarette money, and they go to this tournament," Calipari said. "... You almost feel an obligation. Let's go play."


Uh, so??? He has no choice. He and you act as if he could choose to sit it out. Get real.
 
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