No coach in America

#26
#26
Panthro said:
I feel like you're kidding yourself just because you don't want to turn on Dooley. I like Dooley a lot, I just don't think he's a very good head football coach. At least not for a team that needs to be coached up.
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I'm not really a Dooley apologist. I like his style but I'm not completely convinced that he can help us turn the corner yet. My point is that given what we've experienced, that would be hard for anyone to overcome.
 
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Not scoring in the second half since Georgia is telling. We have a talent problem, but I now believe we have a coaching problem too. That's not a good combination.

We are one coach away. It will be a couple of years, but whoever is next will hopefully walk into a stabilized program. Dooley had a bad situation, but the guy is not an upper echelon coach. Unfortunately, he doesn't have an upper echelon staff either.
 
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No coach? why dont we find out?
Let me hit you with facts. Vanderbilt has a first year coach that has wins over Elon, UConn, Ole Miss, Army, Kentucky. More importantly, he has the following losses

5 point loss to UGA (We loss by 8)
3 point loss to Arkansas (We loss by 42)
5 point loss to Florida (We loss by 10)

His team is clearly getting better. The reason I bring them up is that in the two previous years Vandy went a combined 4-20. He also inherited the worst recruiting class in the SEC last year.

So, why the change, why is Vandy in better shape than Tennessee? It is called coaching ability. The ability to identify strengths and scheme toward them. The ability to adjust during halftime and the ability to lead.

The end result is simple. Vandy scored more 2nd half points on the road against Florida than Tennessee has scored in the 2nd half of the last seven games combined. Do you really believe that have that much more talent?
 
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Dagreek1998 said:
No coach? why dont we find out?
Let me hit you with facts. Vanderbilt has a first year coach that has wins over Elon, UConn, Ole Miss, Army, Kentucky. More importantly, he has the following losses

5 point loss to UGA (We loss by 8)
3 point loss to Arkansas (We loss by 42)
5 point loss to Florida (We loss by 10)

His team is clearly getting better. The reason I bring them up is that in the two previous years Vandy went a combined 4-20. He also inherited the worst recruiting class in the SEC last year.

So, why the change, why is Vandy in better shape than Tennessee? It is called coaching ability. The ability to identify strengths and scheme toward them. The ability to adjust during halftime and the ability to lead.

The end result is simple. Vandy scored more 2nd half points on the road against Florida than Tennessee has scored in the 2nd half of the last seven games combined. Do you really believe that have that much more talent?
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ouch
 
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Vanderbilt also has contiguous recruiting classes while we have had our roster nuked twice in less than two years.
 
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therealUT said:
Exactly. There are coaches that have taken bare cupboard jobs and made their teams competitive within the first two years.
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Bottom line is, to this point, barring the MCB against UNC, Dooley has won every game in which he was expected to win, and lost every game he was expected to lose.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Some yes,


Other dont even know what planet they are on
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Once again

Originally Posted by vol4eva
losing is one thing, getting whipped every week and quitting is another. Quitting is unacceptable, not scoring in the 2nd half since the uga game is unacceptable.
 
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milohimself said:
Bottom line is, to this point, barring the MCB against UNC, Dooley has won every game in which he was expected to win, and lost every game he was expected to lose.
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true

but not all losses are created equal
 
#38
#38
KingtUT said:
I try to fight and argue for Dooley, but he sure makes it hard to defend him. Im running out of excuses and reasons.
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Losing has become routine and has embedded ifself in the culture. Franklin is at least coming closer to overcome their expectation of losing. Sure, they're still Vandy, but they are at least competing for 60 mins.
 
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Dagreek1998 said:
No coach? why dont we find out?
Let me hit you with facts. Vanderbilt has a first year coach that has wins over Elon, UConn, Ole Miss, Army, Kentucky. More importantly, he has the following losses

5 point loss to UGA (We loss by 8)
3 point loss to Arkansas (We loss by 42)
5 point loss to Florida (We loss by 10)

His team is clearly getting better. The reason I bring them up is that in the two previous years Vandy went a combined 4-20. He also inherited the worst recruiting class in the SEC last year.

So, why the change, why is Vandy in better shape than Tennessee? It is called coaching ability. The ability to identify strengths and scheme toward them. The ability to adjust during halftime and the ability to lead.

The end result is simple. Vandy scored more 2nd half points on the road against Florida than Tennessee has scored in the 2nd half of the last seven games combined. Do you really believe that have that much more talent?
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Damn good post.
 
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i predict that at most, in a couple of years, dooley will be either practicing law or wig wagging signals in for a real coach. i don't blame the black hole vol football has become entirely on him. but, its pretty clear he's out of his element. fulmer deserves almost as much blame. after the n.c. you could see that he felt a sense of entitlement as if he held the job as firmly as a divinely appointed monarch. i don't know if he lost his touch in evaluating talent, but it seemed that those top classes he got in his last decade had more busts than talent. mostly, i blame hamilton, the b.s. artist of b.s. artists. he was clueless and pathetic when it came to coaches. the ones on everybody's short lists blew him off. ironically, the one coach he hired who might finally turn out to be worth a damn is now about as far from knoxville as you can get. kiffen, raleigh, dooley, and pearl. all hamilton hires. that says it all.
 
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vol4eva said:
Losing isn't the problem, it's the way we're losing.
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There's No reason for us to be shut out 5 wks in a row in the 2nd half. The team appears to lose focus.

I don't think we can use the "got worn down" excuse tonight. We gave them too many big plays. Not like LSU or SC going on 20 play drives.
 
#45
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arkyvol said:
i predict that at most, in a couple of years, dooley will be either practicing law or wig wagging signals in for a real coach.l.
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Probably WR coach for the Carolina Panthers.
Dooley and Mike Shula will be best buds
 
#46
#46
OrangeU said:
I agree. First time I've felt that way since he's been here. This team looks unmotivated and unprepared week after week. Young team or not, thats a reflection on Dooley.
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I also am starting to find it very hard to argue for the staff when we keep making the same miserable mistakes every week. For instance: jumping off sides and killing drives, the offensive line constantly missing blocks, the running backs running into a defender straight up instead of lowering there pads, the defense missing easy tackles, defensive players conused about their assignments, a total lack of effort after getting behind, and the list could go on and on.
I am also finding it very hard to stand behind Chaney in the play calling threads. I know what were going to run by what formation we line up in and my football knowledge is very limited. For instance: when we line up in the I formation we are either going to run up the middle or hand off an end around. If were in the shotgun were throwing the ball. Who throws a quick slant on fourth and two on your own 40 with a true freshman quaterback. That is a timing throw and has to be executed perfectly by the quaterback and reciever. God forbid we line up in the I formation and go play action pass to the fullback in the flat.
I'm just not seeing any growth in our team. The same problems keep rearing their ugly head.
 
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Dagreek1998 said:
No coach? why dont we find out?
Let me hit you with facts. Vanderbilt has a first year coach that has wins over Elon, UConn, Ole Miss, Army, Kentucky. More importantly, he has the following losses

5 point loss to UGA (We loss by 8)
3 point loss to Arkansas (We loss by 42)
5 point loss to Florida (We loss by 10)

His team is clearly getting better. The reason I bring them up is that in the two previous years Vandy went a combined 4-20. He also inherited the worst recruiting class in the SEC last year.

So, why the change, why is Vandy in better shape than Tennessee? It is called coaching ability. The ability to identify strengths and scheme toward them. The ability to adjust during halftime and the ability to lead.

The end result is simple. Vandy scored more 2nd half points on the road against Florida than Tennessee has scored in the 2nd half of the last seven games combined. Do you really believe that have that much more talent?
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The result would still be the same....losses whether by 5 or 25. My point is James Franklin would have incurred a similar fate to Dooley given the same factors. Sure there are coaches that could improve our performance over Dooley's but my contention is that we would still lose at least 5 of the 6 regardless of who the coaching staff. In the end losing is losing isn't it?
 
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milohimself said:
Bottom line is, to this point, barring the MCB against UNC, Dooley has won every game in which he was expected to win, and lost every game he was expected to lose.
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Are you saying this is a "good" indicator of coaching ability?

If so, then next year may be even better for Dooley because Tennessee will probably be favored in even fewer games, therefore Dooley will be "expected" to lose even more ... and that's good ???
 
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#49
The inability to run the football, special team woes, and second half meltdowns are mainstays of the Dooley era. That is not all lack of talent problems. A team with no talent is not in as many games as we have been in at the half.

At some point, winners find a way when they are in a position to win. Dooley doesn't have a clue how to make that happen.
 
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teeball said:
Are you saying this is a "good" indicator of coaching ability?

If so, then next year may be even better for Dooley because Tennessee will probably be favored in even fewer games, therefore Dooley will be "expected" to lose even more ... and that's good ???
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If I thought this was a good indicator, I would have said it was a good indicator.
 
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