NIL will kill the NFL

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mad4vols said:
Are high schools gonna get in on the action?
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It's going to happen


College athletes are also going to unionize soon. Lockouts and strikes will happen just like Professional sports
 
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I don’t think people realize what a big deal the guy flipping from FSU to a FCS school is. Traditional Power 5 schools should be concerned.
 
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jeff1vol said:
Players getting paid for decades????? NO WAY! I think the point has sailed over your head.
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Look, I agree it should be a pro league and the elite teams from the SEC and B1G should get together, establish who is leaving the NCAA, and take the teams pro.

Establish a salary cap, contract negotiations, a draft, etc via the NFL model and let's root for someone like Hooker to get called up to the Titans and TN could then pick up another QB from free agency or trade.

It's where this is headed. Let's do it now before TX and aTm out rich everyone via NIL.

The courts are behind NIL, not the NCAA and schools, so there's no sense in whining about it. If pro is what they are....... let's align with the pros.
 
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jeff1vol said:
The ONLY solution to this WHOLE problem is for the NFL to create a farm system and draft out of HS just like baseball. You dont want to go to class.... go to the NFDL. Get the PROS OUT of college athletics!!
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Baseball is getting out of that. More players are actually going to college instead of farm teams. Farm teams are basically going broke and fewer of them. Big shift happening in baseball right now. Football league would be the same way in short time.
 
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The NFL is not going to make a minor league system as long as college football is developing their players for them.
Players as long as they are healthy are going to play pro football as long as they can until their skills or health erode.
NIL deals. Top players will get the BIG NIL deals while playing in the NFL, not college. Peyton Manning could get NIL deals while playing pro that would have dwarfed any possible NIL deal while playing at UT.
 
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What is the NFL? Is it that woke @$$ incantation of liberal stupidity that forgot its sole purpose was to entertain us and leave the fake news to CNN?
 
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I’m sure in a year or so , they’ll be fees and some sort of tax. Players might not want to get in that NIL until they get to NFL
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Look, I agree it should be a pro league and the elite teams from the SEC and B1G should get together, establish who is leaving the NCAA, and take the teams pro.

Establish a salary cap, contract negotiations, a draft, etc via the NFL model and let's root for someone like Hooker to get called up to the Titans and TN could then pick up another QB from free agency or trade.

It's where this is headed. Let's do it now before TX and aTm out rich everyone via NIL.

The courts are behind NIL, not the NCAA and schools, so there's no sense in whining about it. If pro is what they are....... let's align with the pros.
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Ok. Then why have them required to go to class? Let them "major" in their sport of choice if thats what they choose to do and get on with it. Stop with the Holier Than Thou "student athlete" ********. Thats my gripe. Schools can cheat no matter what. Period. Give each school a salary cap to work their own roster priorities. Kind of like the way college baseball handles their schollies.
 
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The Original Fade said:
CEOs of large multimillion corporations are about to figure out that they can buy national championships for their Alma maters by simply paying NFL money to blue chip recruits, even more.

And if you’re that blue chip player making 10 mil + per season at XYZ university, why would you go to the NFL for probably less money and the risk of permanent injury when you can walk away from college with 40 mil in your pocket?

Thoughts?
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Is there not a cap on the amount of money a player can receive via an NIL deal ?!
 
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BearCat204 said:
Who said I would stop watching? Are you suggesting that if the majority of the top level talent leaves the sport, that the product will not suffer?
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It wont suffer a bit. Not from a popularity or interest standpoint. The stadiums will still be full. TV contracts will still be massive. Each team will still have its stars. A few HS players wont make or break the sport, IMO. I doubt a majority of HS football players would be anywhere close to prepared for an NFL type D league. BUT... they should have that path to pro football available if they cant or dont want to go to school to pursue a degree. Major in "football" or "basketball". Maybe that would be more appropriate.
 
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NIL just makes legal what the big boys have been doing for years.. More than likely it will create more parody in college which it desperately needs. Handful of teams have shot at winning it all every year. Need a expanded playoff and now that basically free agency in college football is here it's going to change the landscape.
 
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jeff1vol said:
Ok. Then why have them required to go to class? Let them "major" in their sport of choice if thats what they choose to do and get on with it. Stop with the Holier Than Thou "student athlete" ********. Thats my gripe. Schools can cheat no matter what. Period. Give each school a salary cap to work their own roster priorities. Kind of like the way college baseball handles their schollies.
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Title IX. You think the University wants to pay ALL the athletes?

The schools need to get out of the equation except to lease the Vols brand, stadium, etc.
 
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Fade, this is an overreaction. CFB will change immensely but NFL will be fine. We may see more guys finish out their careers instead of hopping over to the draft on a dubious grade. The rich teams will benefit more than any.
 
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The Original Fade said:
CEOs of large multimillion corporations are about to figure out that they can buy national championships for their Alma maters by simply paying NFL money to blue chip recruits, even more.

And if you’re that blue chip player making 10 mil + per season at XYZ university, why would you go to the NFL for probably less money and the risk of permanent injury when you can walk away from college with 40 mil in your pocket?

Thoughts?
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You're talking about the 1% of the 1%. If anything "kills" the NFL it would be competition for viewership and what other products said viewer spends thier dollar on. I personally believe the college game has a better product at the moment.
 
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The Original Fade said:
The ROI is what happens on the field. These NIL deals have zero to do with improving the individual business
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So you think the cookie company giving out free cookies for alontae interceptions is doing it to see wins on the field and not to get people through their doors with the thought that after they get their free cookies they will probably by a few more or come back again and buy more cookies….. it’s purely about awareness for their businesses.
 
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A) NIL is actually good for the NFL. It weeds out the bad apples. How many busts make it to the pros? They work hard, get drafted, sign a big contract and then never produce, i.e. Ryan Leaf. NFL owners and teams lose millions on those busts.

Having a million $$ as an 18 year old kid, no matter how it is structured over time, will take that fight, that hunger out of the dawg. NIL provides just enough rope to allow developing young athletes to hang themselves (especially without the benefit of mandatory money management courses like the NFL provides to rookies). How many lottery winner are better off for winning? How many trifling women are out there trying to get a free ride, maybe produce a baby daddy?

To make it to the NFL you have to WANT that money, you have to be HUNGRY. Hell, I could see NFL owners paying a million for college talent just to make sure the athlete pans out long term. It'd be like hedging their bets. Pay a million today before paying 40 million in three years. NIL weeds out the weak of heart. Therefore NIL will improve the overall NFL product. Only the hungriest, most level-headed, well-adjusted athletes will begin to make it to the league.

B) The Tranfer Portal also compliments this line of thinking. Some 400+ players went into the portal and are now not playing scholarship football any longer. Without the portal these kids would be riding pine, sucking up scholarship $$ that another, otherwise more deserving athlete could benefit from. The portal is a way of waiving college busts. It's essentially a waiver wire. If an athlete is not happy, then hit the portal coaches can say. Then they are out of the program and a scholarship is opened up for another player. A cancer is easily cut out and a fresh body can be 'cruited.
 
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brando1083 said:
So you think the cookie company giving out free cookies for alontae interceptions is doing it to see wins on the field and not to get people through their doors with the thought that after they get their free cookies they will probably by a few more or come back again and buy more cookies….. it’s purely about awareness for their businesses.
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Nobody is saying that there is any rule to prevent legit NIL. that's just stupid. Of course anybody could do a legit NIL deal. They can make money on it if they want to.

Nobody on this board is that stupid, trust me. You're jousting with a windmill.

But this idea that NIL is somehow forced to be profitable, that's not true. The boosters never got anything for being boosters except inclusion in the good ol' boy system and a nice seat somewhere. Invited to a cocktail party once in a while. The idea that the boosters will stay out of an unprofitable deal doesn't align with the last 100 years of football. A lot of universities have endowments measure in the billions. These guys just gave that money away. It happens.
 
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The Original Fade said:
CEOs of large multimillion corporations are about to figure out that they can buy national championships for their Alma maters by simply paying NFL money to blue chip recruits, even more.

And if you’re that blue chip player making 10 mil + per season at XYZ university, why would you go to the NFL for probably less money and the risk of permanent injury when you can walk away from college with 40 mil in your pocket?

Thoughts?
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More millions?
 
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The Original Fade said:
CEOs of large multimillion corporations are about to figure out that they can buy national championships for their Alma maters by simply paying NFL money to blue chip recruits, even more.

And if you’re that blue chip player making 10 mil + per season at XYZ university, why would you go to the NFL for probably less money and the risk of permanent injury when you can walk away from college with 40 mil in your pocket?

Thoughts?
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Uh, because you run out of eligibility?

NIL has a greater chance of killing college football than the NFL IMO.
 
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