NIL Turmoil To Come

#5
#5
Maybe, but the precedent would be potent.

You guys realize this will glaring affects on non money sports……..right?

precedent……yes that’s where is “could become really bad.

If somehow every athlete could sue for past damages…….where did a lot of this revenue go? Many schools “could” be forced to cancel sports programs which eat a lot of money yet don’t create money.
 
#6
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A smart judge can use the legal terminology to not make the judgement retroactive.

But it would be best if this retro award genie stays in the bottle.
I don't have a problem with present and future kids getting fair value for their likenesses when appropriate.
 
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Not all names, images and likenesses carry the same value in the free market and business plans, to think that NIL is somehow governed by the Title IX rules is an incorrect assumption and a primary reason the individual schools have to create and maintain some significant separation between the exchanges which are raising, spending and negotiating money and deals for college players. It is an open market but money and deals driven by the player markets, not by the conferences and universities that eventually obtain the players talents and services in connection with the schools athletic endeavors.
 
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If I read it correctly.
They aren’t seeking money players may have gotten through NIL deals with the local car dealer. They want a nice chunk of the TV money, attendance, etc. that the schools/conferences have received since 2016 and apparently they would divide that among all football/basketball players that were on scholarships in that time period. I am guessing that would amount to 100s of millions or billions of dollars. Of course the attorneys would get a nice chunk of that.
 
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If I read it correctly.
They aren’t seeking money players may have gotten through NIL deals with the local car dealer. They want a nice chunk of the TV money, attendance, etc. that the schools/conferences have received since 2016 and apparently they would divide that among all football/basketball players that were on scholarships in that time period. I am guessing that would amount to 100s of millions or billions of dollars. Of course the attorneys would get a nice chunk of that.
Would you look at that, it’s almost like every time people say something is a slippery slope everyone dismisses them and then you turn around and there next move is exactly what you warned about.
 
#15
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This is a big rabbit hole, ND profited huge off of scholarship players up until the 90’s
 
#16
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I live in az what Asu player was it?

I don’t but could fine out. I was merely making a joke.

Going on to “try” and show that in many schools non money sports are supported by money sports like football and men’s basketball.

If they were to win this it “could” destroy many non money making sports at some schools.

Those guys knew what they were doing when they signed up. Now they simply want their dollar……..they see there’s lots of them ($$) however they don’t understand or don’t care who it may destroy in order to get that dollar.

I’m all for kids making money, as that’s the rule now. However it was not then. If everything becomes retroactive……..everything is in trouble.
 
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I may be in the minority here, but nobody makes them play the sport at the university. They chose to play in hopes they would develop a trade that would be compensated later. Who cares if the university makes or doesn’t make money exposing them to future revenue streams. They don’t have to play! Their lawsuits should be pointed at the nfl and nba and other leagues for discrimination. I would rather watch a lesser product that was composed of College Stufents vs the league farm institutions. Just make those leagues set up developmental leagues, and put college athletics back to true students that play a game on Saturday
 
#18
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I put college athletics back to true students that play a game on Saturday

Brother, if 102,000 showed up to watch me play QB back in my college days they would have been disappointed.


The answer is always the money. Always. Any questions? Always.
 
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I live in az what Asu player was it?

I could be mistaken but I think it was the female basketball player a couple years ago who complained that the exercise equipment at one of the tournament sites was not as good as the men’s exercise equipment.
 
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I may be in the minority here, but nobody makes them play the sport at the university. They chose to play in hopes they would develop a trade that would be compensated later. Who cares if the university makes or doesn’t make money exposing them to future revenue streams. They don’t have to play! Their lawsuits should be pointed at the nfl and nba and other leagues for discrimination. I would rather watch a lesser product that was composed of College Stufents vs the league farm institutions. Just make those leagues set up developmental leagues, and put college athletics back to true students that play a game on Saturday

OK, in an age where corporations and other fat cats get away with exploiting people, you're OK, if say you have kids. And someone photos them and uses their pics in commercials. Making millions. And your kids being unable to benefit from the windfall? Now, before you say, oh that doesn't happen, here you go:
Exhibit A: $15.6M Award For Coffee 'Mug'

Now, it can be said no one forced the guy to drink Tasters Choice Coffee, so who cares if the company makes money using his image. I used to do photography (not that I was all that good at it) and I had to make sure my subjects signed a release form to legally use their image.

Exhibit B: When my wife was at the hospital for follow-up care and exams after a major surgery, she was asked if her blood and related samples could be used for study and research purposes. She conferred with me, and I suggested if no clause was in the form about compensation for revenue earned from the outcome of the studies, don't sign it. The nurses and a doctor, yep there was more than just one, said, "No matter, we have the samples anyway." They further advised they do the same with her DNA too.

Why did I tell my wife to not sign the form? Because I knew the Typhoid Mary case. Over decades on top of decades, enormous money has been made from the vaccines for that disease, but Mary never realized a penny from the value of her samples. Further, she was involuntarily confined, and rightly so to prevent further spreading of a dangerous killer disease. However, her overall mistreatment were based on the following:
Mary Mallon, and her treatment at the hands of the health authorities, was different. She was a woman, she was an immigrant (anti-Irish bigotry was rampant at the time), she was from the lower working class and was uneducated, she was unmarried and had no family. It's what fat cats do, exploit, exploit, and exploit. Then make excuses such as, no one forced you to.....
 
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My initial thoughts are that the class may lack Commonality and/or Typicality as not all college athletes’ NIL rights have (or had) the same value as one another.

As such, I think they have an uphill climb when it comes to class certification. I DO think they may well have cognizable claims on an individual basis.

It would appear that they have the best judge draw for the case though. She was the trial judge on the OBannon case as well.
 
#22
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I wonder where will this all end when all is said and done?
Name, image, likeness lawsuit targets TV revenue dating back to 2016
How about a class action law suit on the billions of dollars communications companies steal from their clients by playing the contractor and authorized dealer game. Their schemes when it comes to insurance and their negligence when it comes to protecting the privacy, and their inability to render service. Oh sorry this is a sports forum lol
 
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These kinds of lawsuits will continue until players are legally considered employees of the schools and professional athletes.

If they aren't employees of the schools, it's going to be difficult to argue they deserve a share of the school's revenue.

If they are employees of the schools, the "student" part of student-athlete is finally really dead and the schools are professional team owners.

Perhaps not this lawsuit but eventually the complete ruse of the "student-athlete" will be over. How many people think Hendon Hooker is actually at UT for grad school?
 
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