NIL effect if Vols are on scholarship reduction

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This is a quick question to either discuss and or answer. If Tennessee has to go on scholarship reductions from 85 to 75 or 70, can the NCAA do anything about if the vols decide to get NIL deals for walk ons and essentialily pay the walk ons enough money to cover books and tuition and some extra money for the players?? Has this been discussed or this against the NIL and it’s only for scholarship students?
 
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Volteacher said:
This is a quick question to either discuss and or answer. If Tennessee has to go on scholarship reductions from 85 to 75 or 70, can the NCAA do anything about if the vols decide to get NIL deals for walk ons and essentialily pay the walk ons enough money to cover books and tuition and some extra money for the players?? Has this been discussed or this against the NIL and it’s only for scholarship students?
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The Vols are in trouble with the NCAA if they are involved, officially, in NIL deals.

NIL deals can be given to ANY student, athlete or not, because they're personal contracts with businesses, not the school. So yeah...... BYU has a booster funding all the walk on athletes, I think, as an NIL deal.

Edit: BYU Football Strikes NIL Deal to Pay Tuition for Walk-Ons
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The Vols are in trouble with the NCAA if they are involved, officially, in NIL deals.

NIL deals can be given to ANY student, athlete or not, because they're personal contracts with businesses, not the school. So yeah...... BYU has a booster funding all the walk on athletes, I think, as an NIL deal.

Edit: BYU Football Strikes NIL Deal to Pay Tuition for Walk-Ons
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WOW!!! That is really a great story, thanks for sharing! I know Spyre Sports is doing something but it seems Tennessee is WAAAAAAY behind o5er SEC teams, but maybe I’m missing something.
 
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Volteacher said:
WOW!!! That is really a great story, thanks for sharing! I know Spyre Sports is doing something but it seems Tennessee is WAAAAAAY behind o5er SEC teams, but maybe I’m missing something.
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BYU and Built, the protein bar company doing the deal, are also under investigation by the NCAA for having too close of a relationship.

Because it's so new and the NCAA is so screwed up, I think lots of schools are being VERY VERY low key about the deals and trying to prove "we're not involved in these things but we're aware of them....."
 
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By all counts, we're behind the curve here. TAM and UT Jr are killing it. Sad.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
BYU and Built, the protein bar company doing the deal, are also under investigation by the NCAA for having too close of a relationship.

Because it's so new and the NCAA is so screwed up, I think lots of schools are being VERY VERY low key about the deals and trying to prove "we're not involved in these things but we're aware of them....."
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I wondered if some NBA/NFL teams skirt the salary cap that way too.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
BYU and Built, the protein bar company doing the deal, are also under investigation by the NCAA for having too close of a relationship.

Because it's so new and the NCAA is so screwed up, I think lots of schools are being VERY VERY low key about the deals and trying to prove "we're not involved in these things but we're aware of them....."
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And yet you will mostly likely never see any players eligibility lessened. The time of NCAA regulating compensation has come to an end, although they might pretend for a bit longer. Its over.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
And yet you will mostly likely never see any players eligibility lessened. The time of NCAA regulating compensation has come to an end, although they might pretend for a bit longer. Its over.
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I'm doubtful anything comes of the NCAA NIL investigations but they are out there.

I'm a believer that the SEC/D1 will impose whatever the Vols get, if anything at all, from the Pruitt crap.

College sports as amateur athletics is quickly going the way of the Olympics.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The Vols are in trouble with the NCAA if they are involved, officially, in NIL deals.

NIL deals can be given to ANY student, athlete or not, because they're personal contracts with businesses, not the school. So yeah...... BYU has a booster funding all the walk on athletes, I think, as an NIL deal.

Edit: BYU Football Strikes NIL Deal to Pay Tuition for Walk-Ons[/QUOTE

Not sure what communications are allowed between NIL funders and schools. I guess in theory they could seek assurances from the schools that a particular athlete will be extended a committable offer

I still believe the NCAA Will eventually establish an NIL cap for each school just like they have scholly limits, PWO limits, and roster limits. No limits on individual deals at all. Schools will be able to add players until the cap is reached. Plenty of schools ready when bigs fill up.
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm doubtful anything comes of the NCAA NIL investigations but they are out there.

I'm a believer that the SEC/D1 will impose whatever the Vols get, if anything at all, from the Pruitt crap.

College sports as amateur athletics is quickly going the way of the Olympics.
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Heck if it does it will be in year 2035. They have sadly become a inept, vulnerable, weak governing body. How the NCAA can look anybody in the eye and say they have things under any kind of control is a freakin joke. The NCAA cannot keep running like it is, if they can’t govern a level playing field and totally revamp there rules to clear common sense rules and the punishments and process clearly outlined they need to form a better governing body. The NCAA is going to have to change or be forced to change it’s ways of investigating, it takes to long and the true violators often get nothing while they try to punish the school years after the fact. If I was the power 5 I would give the governing body a ultimatum either get this fixed or we will form another sanctioning body. College athletics needs and deserves a sound fair sensible governing body. College football doesn’t have that and to keep going down a road that leads to a Cliff is just plain ignorant and stupid. GBO!
 
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Heck if it does it will be in year 2035. They have sadly become a inept, vulnerable, weak governing body. How the NCAA can look anybody in the eye and say they have things under any kind of control is a freakin joke. The NCAA cannot keep running like it is, if they can’t govern a level playing field and totally revamp there rules to clear common sense rules and the punishments and process clearly outlined they need to form a better governing body. The NCAA is going to have to change or be forced to change it’s ways of investigating, it takes to long and the true violators often get nothing while they try to punish the school years after the fact. If I was the power 5 I would give the governing body a ultimatum either get this fixed or we will form another sanctioning body. College athletics needs and deserves a sound fair sensible governing body. College football doesn’t have that and to keep going down a road that leads to a Cliff is just plain ignorant and stupid. GBO!
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The NCAA DID change their Constitution essentially deciding to let the divisions handle issues. Basically, D1, D2, D3 will create the rules and enforce them, I think, and the NCAA will stay out of sanctions and such as much as possible.

At least for football, the NCAA more or less walked away from more than acting as a "big umbrella" for schools to be under.
 
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By all counts, we're behind the curve here. TAM and UT Jr are killing it. Sad.
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And probably a big reason little nickie threw a fit about nil last week as a & m and texas have more dollars to throw to prospects. Too bad nick
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The Vols are in trouble with the NCAA if they are involved, officially, in NIL deals.

NIL deals can be given to ANY student, athlete or not, because they're personal contracts with businesses, not the school. So yeah...... BYU has a booster funding all the walk on athletes, I think, as an NIL deal.

Edit: BYU Football Strikes NIL Deal to Pay Tuition for Walk-Ons
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Texas a&m says yeah it’s not illegal to be in contact with NIL deals that are designed to draw the player to your university. Worked out great for them.
 
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Volteacher said:
This is a quick question to either discuss and or answer. If Tennessee has to go on scholarship reductions from 85 to 75 or 70, can the NCAA do anything about if the vols decide to get NIL deals for walk ons and essentialily pay the walk ons enough money to cover books and tuition and some extra money for the players?? Has this been discussed or this against the NIL and it’s only for scholarship students?
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If it is true we are on scholarship reduction and it is self imposed we will never "be back". Its embarassing to keep taking it from the NCAA .... firing bruce pearl over a BBQ and a lie then you look at lsu and so many other programs laughing at the ncaa because they arent going to nor can do anything. To bow down to them is so moronic. We couldve hit the transfer portal so hard this year.... but according to rumor were going on a scholarship reduction.... just stupid.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm doubtful anything comes of the NCAA NIL investigations but they are out there.

I'm a believer that the SEC/D1 will impose whatever the Vols get, if anything at all, from the Pruitt crap.

College sports as amateur athletics is quickly going the way of the Olympics.
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The NCAA is still kind of pretending in part, so hard to tell. Its all over (its actually been over for years... exactly how many players have had their college playing career stopped by payments?... not many in many moons) but that doesn't mean a few (NCAA) can't read the memo. The war is over, its just some are stuck in the 5 stages of grief... probably between denial and bargaining.

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College sports as amateur athletics is quickly going the way of the Olympics.
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That's the lie, "amateur athletics" never existed... its a figment of everyone's imagination.
 
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