Nico really screwed us

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VolInNW said:
I am so humored by the fact that any negative post on Heupel is attacked viciously, but meanwhile he does absolutely nothing to dispell the perception that he is flat footed.

I mean if it makes folks feel better to attack a fellow poster, so be it, but show me something that indicates that Heupel is taking proactive measures anything akin to Cignetti, Kiffin, and other coaches who are aggressive in the portal in building their team.

I'll wait.
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Josh is not proactive. He has never made any adjustments during a game. He better hurry
 
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VolInNW said:
I’m not sure if Heupel would have been bothered enough to try and land him. Listening to Basilio today and yesterday was depressing. Flat footed. That describes Heupel to a T. Waits for things to happen. No real planning.

It’s depressing to watch something you love (Tennessee football) becoming an object lesson in laziness and complacency.
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Maybe if you were a little less lazy you could maybe learn the game of football. Or just get really drunk and use that as an excuse for being an idiot.
 
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The sky isn't falling folks, CJH and the "Collective" did not want to empty the cash register for an injured Leavitt or a Missouri throwaway QB. They do need to get a 3rd to compete for the position with GMAC and FB, and they will. Aguilar wasn't even on the radar till Nico Iamaleaveya took his football and $4 million dollar request to go play for a 3-9 UCLA who didn't pay him that either. Heupel immediately let Banks go and upgraded the defensive staff and players significantly. There are thousands in the portal and a good evaluator of talent should be able to find the right fit for the program and not chase the gold diggers.
 
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VolInNW said:
I’m not sure if Heupel would have been bothered enough to try and land him. Listening to Basilio today and yesterday was depressing. Flat footed. That describes Heupel to a T. Waits for things to happen. No real planning.

It’s depressing to watch something you love (Tennessee football) becoming an object lesson in laziness and complacency.
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If we've become "an object lesson in laziness and complacency" under Heupel, I'd love to know what we were before that.

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VAVol85 said:
Sure a sell for profit is never a bad thing.
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I keep hearing that and couldn't disagree more. If you are a short term trader, that's fine, but if you're an investor, it's bad advice. Several years ago, I did a back test on stocks I own. What I found was that if you sold half when a stock doubles ("playing with the house's money") vs. buying more, you mad a very bad decision almost every time. I rarely sell any stock that doubles and have frequently bought more. Add to winners, cut losers.
 
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VolInNW said:
Heupel is late stage Fulmer WITHOUT the championships.
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It’s hard to even compare the two honestly. If the system stays the way it is now for a few years, I’d bet that we see a lot more ebbs and flows as the talent spreads out. Situations like Indiana are going to come and go quickly. Meanwhile some really talented teams are going to win 8 games. The line between elite and decent is going to get a lot finer just like the NFL.
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
No he didn't. If he had stayed, he would have been successful. He would declare for the draft, and we'd be right where we are.
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The argument is: if Nico had stayed and we'd gotten to the CFP in consecutive years, we'd be more of a destination school for better recruiting.

That is, a guy like Simpson or Leavitt or Sorsby or Hoover and other big-time portal guys would look at UT as more of a destination school.

As it is, we don't have that momentum and school recognition and coaching recognition that helps high level recruiting.

There's probably some truth to that argument of how Nico screwed us.
 
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LAVol1 said:
I keep hearing that and couldn't disagree more. If you are a short term trader, that's fine, but if you're an investor, it's bad advice. Several years ago, I did a back test on stocks I own. What I found was that if you sold half when a stock doubles ("playing with the house's money") vs. buying more, you mad a very bad decision almost every time. I rarely sell any stock that doubles and have frequently bought more. Add to winners, cut losers.
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You left off my next sentence…I was actually trying to make the same point you are. It is good to profit from a trade but may be better to profit more by holding. The only way to learn is by studying the results of your trades to see if that stock you sold went up or down (like you did with your back testing).
 
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I don't think Nico leaving had much of an impact. If he had stayed, he likely wouldn't have performed any better than JA. If he did, he would have probably entered the draft, and we would be in the exact position as we are now. I believe that our QB1 for next year is already on campus and that's G Mac. We still need a 3rd QB, but there's no need to overspend.
 
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05_never_again said:
If we've become "an object lesson in laziness and complacency" under Heupel, I'd love to know what we were before that.

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Brother, this object lesson has been 20 years in the making. A string of mismanagement, incompetence, laziness, and complacency has driven us into marginal relevancy (at best). A few people "cashed out" on the goodwill and prestige of the program developed over several decades. Heupel is just the latest chapter. I honestly don't see him changing, and therefore don't see him succeeding. I do appreciate the lack of personal attacks in your post, and I think we agree more than disagree.
 
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GAVol said:
It’s hard to even compare the two honestly. If the system stays the way it is now for a few years, I’d bet that we see a lot more ebbs and flows as the talent spreads out. Situations like Indiana are going to come and go quickly. Meanwhile some really talented teams are going to win 8 games. The line between elite and decent is going to get a lot finer just like the NFL.
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I do see a lot of similarities, but I get what you're saying. However, I see programs with VERY deep pocket supporters (like Indiana, Texas Tech, etc) rising to and remaining relevant consistently, while old school 'powers' like Alabama and unfortunately us, sliding a bit backwards. Not to say we don't have the Haslams, for example, but we don't have a Mark Cuban like donor who desperately wants football success and has the cash to make it happen.
 
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VolInNW said:
I’m not sure if Heupel would have been bothered enough to try and land him. Listening to Basilio today and yesterday was depressing. Flat footed. That describes Heupel to a T. Waits for things to happen. No real planning.

It’s depressing to watch something you love (Tennessee football) becoming an object lesson in laziness and complacency.
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From the coaching carousel we just came from and those results?

WTF are you talking about?
 
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VolInNW said:
I am so humored by the fact that any negative post on Heupel is attacked viciously, but meanwhile he does absolutely nothing to dispell the perception that he is flat footed.

I mean if it makes folks feel better to attack a fellow poster, so be it, but show me something that indicates that Heupel is taking proactive measures anything akin to Cignetti, Kiffin, and other coaches who are aggressive in the portal in building their team.

I'll wait.
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with the youngest roster in the SEC just maybe roster building is coming some from WITHIN! but new toys always excited spoiled entitled brats. even if those toys were crap. its the fact they were new that was so exciting!
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The argument is: if Nico had stayed and we'd gotten to the CFP in consecutive years, we'd be more of a destination school for better recruiting.

That is, a guy like Simpson or Leavitt or Sorsby or Hoover and other big-time portal guys would look at UT as more of a destination school.

As it is, we don't have that momentum and school recognition and coaching recognition that helps high level recruiting.

There's probably some truth to that argument of how Nico screwed us.
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We're losing options to schools like Virginia. They are going where the money is. We aren't offering the same money. Why? Because we aren't willing to. Why not? Because we aren't looking for a #1 as a priority.
 
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