Nick Stephens participating in throwing drills

#126
#126
Lockdown1 said:
Well he hasn't had time. But even with a simplified offense he threw a simple pick 6 to Vandy. People are trying to compare this guy to the two others but he didn't play all season for a reason.
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Anyone using the logic that Fulmer's group didn't play someone to make an argument on their ability is not paying attention.
 
#128
#128
Lockdown1 said:
Mighty funny you guys are talking about our starter at QB.
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I don't understand why you love our least talented and most whiny QB so much. But from what I've seen, it seems to be the fact that he was the least of the three evils (which is debatable) in a system that we don't use anymore and that is really nothing like the one we use now. Forgive me if I don't buy in.
 
#129
#129
VKAman said:
I don't understand why you love our least talented and most whiny QB so much. But from what I've seen, it seems to be the fact that he was the least of the three evils (which is debatable) in a system that we don't use anymore and that is really nothing like the one we use now. Forgive me if I don't buy in.
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#130
#130
I truly believe the Crompton will get the start and he will play the entire season. He won't be amazing (well compared to last season he will be), but he will be solid. Solid enough to get the ball into the hands of this teams new and old playmakers...

Coleman is the backup.

IMO
 
#131
#131
VKAman said:
Him and Austin Rogers...Lockdown is probably about to punch something
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To tell the truth as long as Gerald keeps his mouth shut and play I'm all for him. But Rogers on the other hand- just no comment. Just don't feel like arguing about the guy.
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#132
#132
Lockdown1 said:
To tell the truth as long as Gerald keeps his mouth shut and play I'm all for him. But Rogers on the other hand- just no comment. Just don't feel like arguing about the guy.
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Not a big fan of him myself, really...I was just observing.
 
#135
#135
Brewerw said:
Why is that funny?
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He has a better arm than Coleman, and he's ten times the gamer that Crompton is. I have no idea what his supposed weaknesses in comparison to the other two are. He's the best all around guy we have.
 
#136
#136
ptclaus98 said:
He has a better arm than Coleman, and he's ten times the gamer that Crompton is. I have no idea what his supposed weaknesses in comparison to the other two are. He's the best all around guy we have.
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Which is why he was easily the worst recruit of the three...

Stephens was basically used as a game manager. The others have way more upside and way more potential. They also made more mistakes. Stephens getting on the field was, and is, a sign that our more talented QBs were not playing up to their talent. That the higher reward offered by the other two was not outweighing the higher risk of mistakes, so we just threw someone average out there. Stephens playing is basically a concession that we are failing in our development of our more talented QBs. Other than that, he should not really see the field much...ever.
 
#137
#137
ptclaus98 said:
He has a better arm than Coleman, and he's ten times the gamer that Crompton is. I have no idea what his supposed weaknesses in comparison to the other two are. He's the best all around guy we have.
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Not to mention that he enjoys getting in arguments on the sideline...
 
#138
#138
ptclaus98 said:
He has a better arm than Coleman, and he's ten times the gamer that Crompton is. I have no idea what his supposed weaknesses in comparison to the other two are. He's the best all around guy we have.
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No, potential wise he is way worse than both. There is really no debating that.
 
#139
#139
Brewerw said:
No, potential wise he is way worse than both. There is really no debating that.
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What? Crompton has reached the end of his stick. OMG! HE WAS A 5 STAR! He's retarded as a rock and that's never gonna change. B.J.'s got potential, yeah. But his arm isn't live like Nick's, and Nick's equal to him in every other aspect. Now if B.J.'s gotten stronger over the winter then yeah, it's a two horse battle.


And as for Nick being a game manager. That's exactly what we needed last year. And that's excatly what we need this year. I recall there being a game manager at QB in 1998.
 
#140
#140
Brewerw said:
No, potential wise he is way worse than both. There is really no debating that.
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2 bad potential doesn't show up in games. i rather have a guy who was smart on the field, than a guy who had a s**tload of potential but makes terrible decisions or couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.

that being said, NS' deep ball is as pretty as I've seen in the last 10 years
 
#141
#141
Vol Mania 21 said:
2 bad potential doesn't show up in games. i rather have a guy who was smart on the field, than a guy who had a s**tload of potential but makes terrible decisions or couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.

that being said, NS' deep ball is as pretty as I've seen in the last 10 years
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Which is why with a good system and good coaching, a more tallented qb should be better.
 
#142
#142
ptclaus98 said:
What? Crompton has reached the end of his stick. OMG! HE WAS A 5 STAR! He's retarded as a rock and that's never gonna change. B.J.'s got potential, yeah. But his arm isn't live like Nick's, and Nick's equal to him in every other aspect. Now if B.J.'s gotten stronger over the winter then yeah, it's a two horse battle.


And as for Nick being a game manager. That's exactly what we needed last year. And that's excatly what we need this year. I recall there being a game manager at QB in 1998.
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In a system that is MUCH easier to understand, that very well could change.

And yes. A game manager is what we need when our other QBs are making mistakes. But ideally, our other QBs will play up to their talent level so that we don't need one. Plus, we don't exactly have a 1998 national championship team around him.
 
#143
#143
It is going to be interesting to see who wins the QB job. Everyone has their opinion of who they think it will be, and I kind of expect Stephens to win the job. I am basing this on watching Crompton and Stephens last year in the same bad system, and I thought Stephens managed the game much better, worked way better under pressure, had a little bit nicer deep ball, but was definitely overall a more accurate passer. It is hard to tell what Coleman can do because other than the JV game he didn't get to pass the ball or really play much at all. So, it is anybodys guess, but I am going with Stephens. However, this is a new system, and any one guy, yes including Crompton could actually take a hold of it and be a heads and shoulder above the others. One thing about it, since Kiffin wants to have a starting QB named at the end of spring practice, we should know in about 3 weeks.
 
#144
#144
Well-said, Tennisguy.

Will be interesting to see which of the 3 is most able to learn from their past mistakes and grow beyond what they used to be.
 
#145
#145
VKAman said:
In a system that is MUCH easier to understand, that very well could change.

And yes. A game manager is what we need when our other QBs are making mistakes. But ideally, our other QBs will play up to their talent level so that we don't need one. Plus, we don't exactly have a 1998 national championship team around him.
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What makes you think that Nick Stephens is any less talented than the other two? If anything he would be the one to gain the most in this system. He can throw the deep balls, he can check down, and he won't throw it in the dirt or halfway into the bleachers.

Besides, going on the first 4 days of practice, Crompton's still the same old dumbass, and I haven't heard a thing from Coleman.
 
#146
#146
While I agree that Stephens is probably the better QB of the 3 right now, I also agree that he has the least potential of the 3 but who knows? We really haven't gotten to see a lot of what he can do with a good system in place. This is going to be a great competition. :)
 
#147
#147
ptclaus98 said:
What? Crompton has reached the end of his stick. OMG! HE WAS A 5 STAR! He's retarded as a rock and that's never gonna change. B.J.'s got potential, yeah. But his arm isn't live like Nick's, and Nick's equal to him in every other aspect. Now if B.J.'s gotten stronger over the winter then yeah, it's a two horse battle.


And as for Nick being a game manager. That's exactly what we needed last year. And that's excatly what we need this year. I recall there being a game manager at QB in 1998.
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A game manager IS exactly what we needed last year and perhaps what we need even more this year. Look what Alabama did with JPW. Nothing fancy or explosive at QB, just a solid game manager. I'd take a JPW performance from any of the three this year. Please.
 
#148
#148
Our strategy this year will be the same as it was v. vandy and UK last year: lean on the defense, run it 50 times a game (with our running backs this fall anything less would be foolish) and throw a few long passes where the qb doesn't have to go through the progressions to go through progressions. Who did that better than the rest last year? Stephens. Stick to that formula last year and we probably beat UCLA, Wyoming and maybe auburn. I think Crompton is probably a good practice player but it just doesn't translate on Saturdays. All I've seen Coleman do is throw a TAINT in his only appearence.
 
#149
#149
Anyone who thinks Coleman doesn't have a strong arm should admit themselves to the nearest mental hospital.
 
#150
#150
Ummm, Stephens a game manager?? He single-handidly lost the Wyoming game. He was embarrasing against Bama. He threw a few nice passes in the Georgia game and that's it. And he is by far the least athletic on his feet.
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