Nick Saban's take on recruiting websites for all you Star Gazers.

#76
#76
madbamahater said:
and the revolving door continues.
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That's why I thought the safest decision was to give Fulmer his last chance to turn things around. UT could very easily end up on a coaching carousel like Bama and UGA had sans the instate talent. It could get ugly... and that's why UT can afford even less patience than other schools.
It took Majors over a decade to build UT up to what they became under Fulmer and Co. Yes, Fulmer was a great recruiter at one time before he just decided to eat. But, Majors sent us into the '90s with Cotton,Sugar, and Fiesta Bowls. Things take time.
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Things do take time but you are talking about a completely different era of football and world. The SEC has quality coaches top to bottom now. Recruiting and information have never been more intense.
Everyone wants fly by night B.S. If Dooley can get us to consistently 9-10 wins a season that's where we want to be and that will take at least 2 more years.
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I am not that type. I am just realistic. If he does not succeed early in this job, the chances that he ever succeeds will go down exponentially.
Dooley need to never have below an 8 win season. This year he gets a pass. 2012 he has to have at least 8 wins, at least. But, to me you still don't give up. Now by 4th or 5th year and he's still 500 or 7 wins.......good bye!
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IMHO, 8 isn't enough in '12. He needs 9 plus a first or second place finish in the East minimum. What you said may be the reality... but I think it will ultimately hurt the program if it happens.
 
#78
#78
pl3 said:
Another misinformed poster, go figure.
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ok i agree with waco. I will clarify this point. Saban is a tremendous judge of talent. most of his 3 star guys will get there 4rth star, with dooley we just don't know. Saban had the number 1 recruiting class in the nation last year and recruits great Dline players. Dooley so far has not. Saban's class will be in the top 10 again this year as for ours i really don't think so. So i guess what i'm saying is I have alot more faith in a guy that has 2 NC's under his belt than a coach with a losing record and alot of coaching blunders last year. I know it is early and seniors in high school haven't even taken the field yet, so i'm not overly concerned. Have to just hope dooley learned something under satan while he was at LSU.
 
#79
#79
champyvol said:
He can say whatever he wants champ. If he don't care for stars why does he get almost all 5 star players?
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Wrong. Currently Bama has 14 players committed this class, 9 of which are 3 stars.

Bama's 5 stars in previous years with Saban...

2011-3
2010-1
2009-4
2008-3

That's pretty damn far from "almost all 5 star players"
 
#81
#81
UTVOL02 said:
Wrong. Currently Bama has 14 players committed this class, 9 of which are 3 stars.

Bama's 5 stars in previous years with Saban...

2011-3
2010-1
2009-4
2008-3

That's pretty damn far from "almost all 5 star players"
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This one i will take offense with. Come on man. 3 number one classes an number 5 and a 10. You are kidding right. He recruits the elite of the elite and gets alot of them.
 
#82
#82
champyvol said:
This one i will take offense with. Come on man. 3 number one classes an number 5 and a 10. You are kidding right. He recruits the elite of the elite and gets alot of them.
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Take offense with what? You said Saban signs almost "All 5 stars". I pointed out the fact and figures that that wasn't true at all.

Are you under the impression I don't think Saban isn't an elite coach? If so, you are incorrect.
 
#83
#83
champyvol said:
This one i will take offense with. Come on man. 3 number one classes an number 5 and a 10. You are kidding right. He recruits the elite of the elite and gets alot of them.
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Ha-ha all he did was point out the fact that your post was totally false. How can you take offense to that?
 
#84
#84
UTVOL02 said:
Take offense with what? You said Saban signs almost "All 5 stars". I pointed out the fact and figures that that wasn't true at all.

Are you under the impression I don't think Saban isn't an elite coach? If so, you are incorrect.
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Fair enough. I guess i should have picked my words more carefully. I should have said elite talent. to me there is just no comparison right now between dooley and saban. Saban is the better coach and the better recruiter, he is the proven guy and all we can do is hope dooley can come close to what he is.
 
#85
#85
champyvol said:
Fair enough. I guess i should have picked my words more carefully. I should have said elite talent. to me there is just no comparison right now between dooley and saban. Saban is the better coach and the better recruiter, he is the proven guy and all we can do is hope dooley can come close to what he is.
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While this statement is true now, this subject needs to be revisited 3 years from now if we are back to winning on a championship level. We will also see how these 3 stars contributed 3 years from now and how good Dooley's evaluations are.:hi:
 
#87
#87
Yankee_Vol said:
I'd kill to have Saban as UT's HC
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#88
#88
UTVOL02 said:
Take offense with what? You said Saban signs almost "All 5 stars". I pointed out the fact and figures that that wasn't true at all.

Are you under the impression I don't think Saban isn't an elite coach? If so, you are incorrect.
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Saban maybe elite but Bama's 10-3 performance last year with losses to USCe, LSU & Auburn looked Fulmer like when you consider they returned a SR QB, a Heisman winner, an AA WR in Jones, an AA DT in Dareus, an AA Safety in Barron and AA kicker in Tipton....6 NFL picks... 4 1st round NFL picks
 
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#90
champyvol said:
ok i agree with waco. I will clarify this point. Saban is a tremendous judge of talent. most of his 3 star guys will get there 4rth star, with dooley we just don't know.
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You have just described the mentality of the people who award stars. They know Saban can evaluate. If he pushes for a kid then that kid will get stars. They do not know yet about DD. He may evaluate better than Saban for all anyone knows at evaluating talent... but he doesn't have the credibility yet.

Saban had the number 1 recruiting class in the nation last year and recruits great Dline players.
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One of the Rivals analysts acknowledged that they pumped his class up.
 
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