NFL.com lists the top 5 QB prospects in college football (Dobbs is #4)

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Johnnyreb#VFL said:
I would bet that well thought out plan he has doesn't involve much of an NFL career.
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I don't know man. Got the rest of his life for the aeronautics career. Go bust out a 8-10 year career in the NFL either leading an offense or holding a clipboard after being a 3rd or 4th round pick, stack several millions of dollars, then get after putting that company together. Just an opinion.
 
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Arm is good not elite level, running ability is elite, great for college, not the NFL. 4th round pick even if he balls out. Love him in college, but, have a bet with D4H that CJ Beathard has a longer career in the NFL than Dobbs.

Just facts folks:

BK down in Miami, and, JR in Cali are the cream of the crop.

Watson is a given, first player off the board, he is a phenom.
 
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#54
Bottom line.. if Dobbs plays like a Top 5 QB, then we are playoff bound. The NFL is desperate for QBs, he could stick around for a long time without ever being a factor.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Hurd and Henry are nothing alike as running backs outside of the similar size. Hurd runs with much better agility, balance, cutting ability, and acceleration. He's also a much better pass catcher.

Hurd's NFL prospects will stand on its own merit. Nothing Henry does will have any effect.
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The orange coolaid is very orange with this one.

J/k Henry was a very good bruising back. I like Hurd but there is no way you can say Hurd is that much better. Though I do agree what he does in yeh NFl will have nothing to do with how Hurd is drafted.
 
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Dobbs will benefit from improved pass protection. To date, he's faced an onslaught in the passing game and has shown a rare talent of evading and exploiting that rush. The next step is trusting his pocket and his progressions.
 
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Nasavol said:
Arm is good not elite level, running ability is elite, great for college, not the NFL. 4th round pick even if he balls out. Love him in college, but, have a bet with D4H that CJ Beathard has a longer career in the NFL than Dobbs.

Just facts folks:

BK down in Miami, and, JR in Cali are the cream of the crop.

Watson is a given, first player off the board, he is a phenom.
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We need to understand something, while Dobbs doesnt have elite arm strength, it could work in the NFL. One of the greatest QBs to ever play had average arm strength, even in college. Now that player is light years ahead of Dobbs in pure passing. But as far as arm strength goes, Donbs is on par with him. Who is this guy? None other than Peyton Manning. My favorite player of all time just never had elite arm strength, even in college.

It seems these dsys that DT QBs are getting a resurgence because of Newton, Mariota and Mariota. Now the real question is can Dobbs or Watson continue their games in the NFL. I am not so sure. Neither one possess the talents of a Michael Vick or Cam Newton.

I will say this, if and its a big if, Dobbs does ball oit this year and significantly improves his passing, this year could be magical. Its possible, although not very likely that Dobbs could go in the first round if he has a great season. Think about it. If Dobbs has great performances against UF, UGA, TAMU, VT and Bama (maybe playong them twice) and team 120 performs to expectations, that would have to vault him above virtually every QB save probably Watson. BK and Rosen dont have to play defenses like Dobbs sees every year.
 
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First round first pick first ballot hall of famer first African American to Mars first Volunteer to rule the known universe.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Anyone who questions Dobbs arm strength has either never watched him play or doesn't know anything about football.

He's no John Elway, but his arm is strong enough to warrant 1st round consideration.

His issue is consistency. Consistently showing that arm talent every game and every down rather than every now and then.
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Not to belabor the point but I think most people would agree...JD has shown some flashes but OVERWHELMING he's lacked consistency in the throw game. I think that's fairly well understood.
 
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VFL34 said:
He over thinks. Sometimes you just gotta throw the ball and allow the wreciever be in position to make a play. You can't hesitate.
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This.. Dobbs is accurate and has the Arm. As 34 said in another post, he needs to go to his check down, but mostly not wait until he "see's" a WR open, then it's too late, he over thinks, and he isn't going to make a mistake so he doesn't trust it IMO.. He needs to trust himself and his WR and just go with his God given abilities and throw as taught.. The play will be there.. No hesitation.. That is when mistakes happen.

Notice Josh didn't throw but 5 int's last year I believe, IMO he knew the window closed to throw the ball, and being he didn't go to his check down, he throws a pass anyway but puts it to where only the WR might can make a catch.. Because of hesitation.
 
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KBVol said:
I think Dobbs is gonna need 15 or so more pounds as an NFL QB. Same goes for Watson who's virtually the same size.
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Dobbs is cut though with mostly muscle mass. He's not one of these skinny fat QBs like Jared Goff. He's built more like a receiver.

I think 10 more pounds of muscle is adequate for him. He's 6'3" 210 right now. Julio Jones is a grown man and he's 6'3" 220.

IMO Dobbs will be fine at 6'3" 220.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Dobbs is cut though with mostly muscle mass. He's not one of these skinny fat QBs like Jared Goff. He's built more like a receiver.

I think 10 more pounds of muscle is adequate for him. He's 6'3" 210 right now. Julio Jones is a grown man and he's 6'3" 220.

IMO Dobbs will be fine at 6'3" 220.
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Goff at number one is still a head scratcher.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Dobbs is cut though with mostly muscle mass. He's not one of these skinny fat QBs like Jared Goff. He's built more like a receiver.

I think 10 more pounds of muscle is adequate for him. He's 6'3" 210 right now. Julio Jones is a grown man and he's 6'3" 220.

IMO Dobbs will be fine at 6'3" 220.
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So you're arguing with me over 5lbs.....I suggested 225 but you think 220 so you replied to my post....lol.

Any college QB going into the league weighing 210 needs to put on weight to withstand the rigors of that league. I recall people calling Mariota slight and in need of more weight last year going into camp with the Titans when he was 6'4 220.

Btw, Julio Jones is running routes downfield vs smaller DBs at 6'3 220, not getting blasted while standing vulnerable in a pocket by guys weighing 240-300lbs. Completely different deal in trying to make that comparison.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Goff at number one is still a head scratcher.
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Obviously, it was all relative to who else was available in the draft. Teams picking number one typically are in bad need of a QB like the Rams were and pretty much everybody thought it was Goff over the kid who played vs much weaker competition. You never know about these kids, some step up and actually play better at the NFL level than they did in college, even though Goff did have a prolific career at Cal.
 
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AboveAllNations said:
Agreed. All Henry had to do was blast through huge holes and outrun people on the second level; Hurd already has plenty of experience fighting for yards behind a bad line.

Hurd reminds me a lot of Arian Foster, both in play style (great size, great quickness, good hands, etc.) and in the fact that he could actually be more productive in the pros than he was in college.
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Biopsy has it right methinks, it was rare you saw Henry run sweeps or run plays outside on the edge, he's slow as molasses or worse when he does. Also hands of stone, granted Bama didn't need to use him any other way, but the guys has significant limitations that will become exposed in the NFL IMO. He's pretty much a one trick pony, a VERY good one trick pony, running straight ahead, but in the NFL, that won't cut it.
 
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KBVol said:
I don't know man. Got the rest of his life for the aeronautics career. Go bust out a 8-10 year career in the NFL either leading an offense or holding a clipboard after being a 3rd or 4th round pick, stack several millions of dollars, then get after putting that company together. Just an opinion.
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Good point.
I love Dobbs and wish him nothing but the best, but I don't see him leading an NFL offense for 8-10 years in the NFL with his style of play. If teams are willing to give him a chance and if he has the stuff to be a qb/backup qb for several years, more power to him. But as another poster mentioned, at what cost? Risking concussions? Protect that million dollar brain
 
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Remy said:
Biopsy has it right methinks, it was rare you saw Henry run sweeps or run plays outside on the edge, he's slow as molasses or worse when he does. Also hands of stone, granted Bama didn't need to use him any other way, but the guys has significant limitations that will become exposed in the NFL IMO. He's pretty much a one trick pony, a VERY good one trick pony, running straight ahead, but in the NFL, that won't cut it.
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This.

Derrick Henry is a great example of a guy with serious flaws as a football player that were hidden in college because of the caliber of team he was on. Very similar to Tim Tebow at Florida.

His flaws will become evident in the pros.

He'll be a huge bust.
 
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Johnnyreb#VFL said:
Good point.
I love Dobbs and wish him nothing but the best, but I don't see him leading an NFL offense for 8-10 years in the NFL with his style of play. If teams are willing to give him a chance and if he has the stuff to be a qb/backup qb for several years, more power to him. But as another poster mentioned, at what cost? Risking concussions? Protect that million dollar brain
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I honestly don't see him being a starting NFL QB either. He's a very talented player with an outstanding skillset, I just don't see that skillset being a good match for what's required of a starting NFL QB. But who knows, perhaps he continues to grow and develop and transition into the NFL game.

Either way, I think he's drafted next year in one of the first 4 rounds and if he can make a roster and hang around the league for awhile even as a backup, he risks minimal physical damage while bringing in 7 figures for a handful to several years.
 
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