Neyland social distancing by the numbers.

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So isn’t it that you wear a mask if you can’t distance? With that, I imagine we’d be able to have all the season ticket holders, at least. I’m already planning to make a face shield part of my permanent wardrobe.

Of course, given the confusion, conflicting reports, and diversity of opinion on here, Phil’s decision to wait and see for a couple more weeks makes pretty good sense.
 
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kcvols1 said:
So isn’t it that you wear a mask if you can’t distance? With that, I imagine we’d be able to have all the season ticket holders, at least. I’m already planning to make a face shield part of my permanent wardrobe.

Of course, given the confusion, conflicting reports, and diversity of opinion on here, Phil’s decision to wait and see for a couple more weeks makes pretty good sense.
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You're kidding about wearing a face shield daily, right? Do you understand how our immune system is designed to work? Exposure helps build immunity. It's how vaccines work. This idea that we can live in a bubble and shield ourselves against every bug out there isn't realistic. Just use common sense hygiene practices and let your God given immune system operate the way it was designed to work. Face shields, masks and gloves daily....nah.
 
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Seating is the easy part. Distancing while getting in and out and around the concessions is what would be difficult
 
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If all the matters is flattening the curve I don’t understand why playing football games even without fans would cause a spike in the curve? Healthy 20 year olds who get it basically have zero chance they’ll even know that have it let alone end up in the hospital.
 
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golfballs said:
If all the matters is flattening the curve I don’t understand why playing football games even without fans would cause a spike in the curve? Healthy 20 year olds who get it basically have zero chance they’ll even know that have it let alone end up in the hospital.
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A large portion of the world has gone crazy.
 
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CAVPUT said:
You're kidding about wearing a face shield daily, right? Do you understand how our immune system is designed to work? Exposure helps build immunity. It's how vaccines work. This idea that we can live in a bubble and shield ourselves against every bug out there isn't realistic. Just use common sense hygiene practices and let your God given immune system operate the way it was designed to work. Face shields, masks and gloves daily....nah.
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Well, I’ve had a talk with my dermatologist about a couple biopsies, and my Dad has had about a dozen too. I’m not going to stop heading out on the water or the golf course, so between that and the ‘rona, a face shield is the right choice for me.

I’ve drawn the line at gloves, as I find I don’t wash my hands as much if I wear them. I do hope that ladies start wearing white gloves again, though. They have advantages beyond hygiene, but maybe I’ve spent too much time at the shoe show.
 
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CAVPUT said:
You're kidding about wearing a face shield daily, right? Do you understand how our immune system is designed to work? Exposure helps build immunity. It's how vaccines work. This idea that we can live in a bubble and shield ourselves against every bug out there isn't realistic. Just use common sense hygiene practices and let your God given immune system operate the way it was designed to work. Face shields, masks and gloves daily....nah.
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Exposure to a novel virus is a bad idea. We have no idea what our immune system’s long term reaction will be since the virus has only been around for 8 months. Exposure to HIV hasn’t built immunity in the millions of people who have caught it. Vaccines are a very complex science that have evolved from the days of crushing up And consuming the sores of people who had the Black Plague.

Right now 99% of the world leaders and their individual scientific teams agree that this virus is a serious threat. Maybe we should trust that they know more than we do.
 
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Hawkeye4588 said:
Special thanks to Madison Blevins at WBIR for crunching the numbers: Looking at social distancing scenarios in Neyland Stadium

Here is what it could look like this fall:

The NCAA’s thought is essential staff and family would be the first in stadiums, then it would slowly increase from there.

Based off the dimensions of the average size of sports seating found with 3D Digital Venue, one fan every six feet apart, would allow Neyland Stadium to reach roughly 16% capacity or 16,393 people.

If they allow two seats together, Neyland Stadium could reach roughly 18,442 fans at 18% capacity.

If venues can use a combo of one or two seats, or triple seats only, Neyland would be able to reach a capacity of roughly 24% or 24,589.

And, if Neyland Stadium could find the best combo of singles, doubles, and triple seats, the maximum capacity of fans would be 35% or 35,859.
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This BS might cover expenses. Much like restaurants at 50% are struggling to break even on 50%. (some make a small amount at 50%) Many football stadiums, on a good Saturday will have a 50-70% crowd .Gives them a small profit. Cut that by the factors you have in the thread base, these schools will lose big time. They just as well have not played this coming season. Go whole hog or none.
 
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sjt18 said:
What it SHOULD look like is 102,000 people in the stadium. The latest I read is that Covid-19 is very, very, very unlikely to spread outside under almost any circumstance.

Obviously proving that suggestion should be a primary objective for those who want outdoor sports this fall.
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HOWEVERRRR -- They (who dat?) are now saying we can't talk loud. Spreads ???? more of the little bastard virus bugs than speaking softly does. SOOOOOO -- we know folks are gonna hollor. Maybe should clear the area, like 10 mile radius around the foul area of the game. It's all BS take your chance on getting to the game without have a wreak, heart attack getting from car to seat, heat stroke, or any other disaster and enjoy life (game) as always. This is just another bump on the road from birth to death. Treat this illness or danger like you do any other, such as a rattle snake , gator, bear any fearsome thing you perceive. If you don't feel comfortable, don't go to a ball game or even out to eat. There are lots of us who will. I figure way more than 16-25% will go to a UT football game.
 
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savannahfan said:
This BS might cover expenses. Much like restaurants at 50% are struggling to break even on 50%. (some make a small amount at 50%) Many football stadiums, on a good Saturday will have a 50-70% crowd .Gives them a small profit. Cut that by the factors you have in the thread base, these schools will lose big time. They just as well have not played this coming season. Go whole hog or none.
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Forgetting TV money
 
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Vol8188 said:
I never said it’s impossible (you could make out with someone outdoors and catch it), but it is unlikely.

Idk how exactly you’re going to get 20 people if you sneeze. But let’s start with the basics. The first few games will be played in weather around 30c. That’s the temperature most studies find almost no outdoor transmission of other airborne viruses such as the flu.

If the game is played during the day, the UV radiation will further limit the possibility of transmission.

Let’s add to that the most important factor, concentration (more total air outdoors than indoors=less virus relatively). The lower the overall viral load, the less likely an infection is to occur. Think of it like sperm and an egg. If you have a low sperm count, it’s less likely one of them makes it to the egg. If you have a lower concentration of the virus (which naturally occurs outdoors) you have a much lower risk of infection because it comes less likely the virus makes it past your bodies innate immune system.

Then final point is if you’re still worried, stay home. That’s the most insane part of all of this. The idea that I have to change because other people are worried. If you’re worried, stay home.

New study finds few cases of outdoor transmission of coronavirus in China
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Every thing you say means nothing to the many who have their minds made up and want to impose their will on everyone else.
Your final point is the only one that matters and is the only way to proceed. What I have said all along, but not as well as you!!!
 
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savannahfan said:
HOWEVERRRR -- They (who dat?) are now saying we can't talk loud. Spreads ???? more of the little bastard virus bugs than speaking softly does. SOOOOOO -- we know folks are gonna hollor. Maybe should clear the area, like 10 mile radius around the foul area of the game. It's all BS take your chance on getting to the game without have a wreak, heart attack getting from car to seat, heat stroke, or any other disaster and enjoy life (game) as always. This is just another bump on the road from birth to death. Treat this illness or danger like you do any other, such as a rattle snake , gator, bear any fearsome thing you perceive. If you don't feel comfortable, don't go to a ball game or even out to eat. There are lots of us who will. I figure way more than 16-25% will go to a UT football game.
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You're right. Life is full of risks. Those who believe they can eliminate risks are also those who want to limit living... to a point where it is hardly worth the effort.

Here's the bad news. There are other Coronaviruses. Some of them kill. None have vaccines though they've been around for years. A treatment is more likely than a vaccine but then.... the politics come in. There is now a French peer reviewed study showing Hydrochloroquine to be effective. I'm not a doctor so I don't know... I do know that almost as soon as the study was completed the minions of the medical establishment swept in trying to find a way to discredit the study. Some conspiracy theories have legs... the one that big pharma has bought off Fauci and others to favor a new, expensive (profitable) treatment... gained some credibility when that happened.

The BEST CURRENT answer... and for the foreseeable future is our own immune systems. They protect us in two ways.

One, a healthy immune system which requires exposure to germs in a "dirty world" to stay healthy fights the virus off about 90% of the time. Don't believe the scary cartoons of droplets floating 30 ft up and over store shelves to make you sick. The chances of that are extraordinarily low. You are unlikely to get or spread it by walking by someone in a store without a mask or even shaking hands. Our immune systems when healthy and well "exercised" are marvelous things. That's why most people do not get it when exposed even in significant ways. That's why as many as 85% that get it do not have symptoms.

Two, the immune systems of those who do acquire it will respond by developing antibodies. Over time, "herd immunity" is cultivated. Herd immunity almost stops the spread. Vaccines are essentially an "artificial" herd immunity.

The truth is that the shelter orders and shutdown will probably end up killing more people directly from Covid-19 AND indirect causes... like the cancer patient that quit going to chemo or business owner who becomes depressed and kills herself. Even less visible is the effect that stress and depression have on long term health. More people will die early deaths due to poor health habits and effects as a direct result of the shutdown.
 
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JacketVol said:
I’ll understand as long as they return thousands of dollars back to me.
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That should be a given.

The university and athletic department will take a hit no matter what they do.

However, I think that if they do well merchandise sales will fill some of the losses.
 
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Gonna be a mad house with the logistics of having a game in Neyland..
 
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Wal-Mart has 1.5 million employees. Two reported deaths by Covid but we have someone claiming a loved one died plus he knows 5 others others contracting it with doctors telling 2 of the families to start making arrangements. Fear mongering at its best just like this response has been and people believe it. So give up your liberties and freedoms, bankrupt businesses and families because we need to stay safe. Sickening.
 
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