Next Women's National Team Coach

[charlie_1]

I don't think she needed revenge....she was already recognized as one of the best ever!

 

[VA_VOLFAN]

I don't think she needed revenge....she was already recognized as one of the best ever!

And shutting maya Moore out of the championship was just icing on the cake! She outplayed Whalen, Augustus, Moore, and Fowles. All olympians and Candace and company (one of which was Nneka who should have also made the team) did work and let everybody know what was what. It was awesome!! I wouldn't be surprised to see both on the 2020 team.

 

[gule]

I hope CP is in her 3rd year of coaching the Lady Vols by 2020.....

 

[BMvol27]

This is odd. I was just reading here on volnation last night that Dawn Staley was the most overrated college coach ever.:loco:rock:

She is. Making only one Final Four is an underachievement with the teams she's had. People act like she's won five national championships. Why doesn't Lindsay Gottlieb or Quentin Hillsman or Mike Neighbors or Scott Rueck get the same praise she does?

 

[PointGuard]

She is. Making only one Final Four is an underachievement with the teams she's had. People act like she's won five national championships. Why doesn't Lindsay Gottlieb or Quentin Hillsman or Mike Neighbors or Scott Rueck get the same praise she does?

+1

 

[Nuyoika]

She is. Making only one Final Four is an underachievement with the teams she's had. People act like she's won five national championships. Why doesn't Lindsay Gottlieb or Quentin Hillsman or Mike Neighbors or Scott Rueck get the same praise she does?

I agree with you to a certain extent. Mike Neighbors & Scott Rueck certainly deserve more air time. I would say if she doesn't make the FF this year that would be a real shame & underachievement. When you get a #1 seed 4 years in a row you should be at the FF at least half those times. If she misses this year she will be 1/4 in 4 years and that one year getting there could have truly gone either way (beating North Carolina by 2 & Florida St. by 6). They seem to really struggle in the regionals when it comes time to play the big boys.

I am not saying it should be a cake walk but I would like to see them play better in the regional games this year. They should be able to if their guard play is on. Even still South Carolina has come a long way. Let's see where they are in 5 years though before offering her Holly's job.

 

[bballcrazy]

I think it is a gimmick for USA. We will see if they pick a real coach i.e. offensive minded as an assistant. Would have liked to see WNBA coach get it. Uconns mini PG will never be USA material, no where even close to Jefferson for starters and the game has changed to tall guards and switching defenses.

 

[BMvol27]

Bullsheet post of the month. The only pressure on Auriemma was to win gold - which he did handily.

Almost any coach could win gold handily with the USA team.

 

[SCGamecock]

Dawn should be our next coach. When have you known USCe to be consistently ranked in the top 5 or 10 in anything? They've won the SEC regular season the last 4 years & the tourney the last 3 years

If she doesn't sign this contract extension that's guaranteed to come at the end of this season then maybe Tennessee has a shot at her... if she does (and every indication is that she will), then you have no shot.

FWIW, I think Holly needs a chance to prove what she can do with the bevy of talent she has coming. She's a good coach.

 

[xhunt3r]

https://southcarolina.rivals.com/news/official-staley-to-coach-u-s-olympic-women-s-team

"USA Basketball Women's National Team director Carol Callan serves as chair of the USA Women's National Team Steering Committee. The committee also includes three-time Olympic and two-time World Championship gold medalist Katie Smith as the athlete representative; representing the WNBA is the league's chief operating officer Jay Parry; Auriemma will serve as a special advisor; and two-time Olympic and 1998 FIBA World Championship gold medalist Ruthie Bolton is the at-large representative."

 

[delphine lalaurie]

Except that the choice wasn't really Parker vs. Stewart. USA basketball always includes one "young" player on the team and Stewart was that player. The choice was Parker vs. one of the more veteran players (take your pick).

A young player when it's convenient. If that were the case, then why didn't he put Neka Ogwumike on the olympic team that year when he had two past their prime Uconn players IMO on the team in Swin Cash, and Aja Jones?

 

[Ed Weeks]

Best of luck to Dawn. This is how it is supposed to work in a functional organization and coaching hierarchy. Very good for Women's Basketball.

 

[CockyGuy]

If she doesn't sign this contract extension that's guaranteed to come at the end of this season then maybe Tennessee has a shot at her... if she does (and every indication is that she will), then you have no shot.

FWIW, I think Holly needs a chance to prove what she can do with the bevy of talent she has coming. She's a good coach.

Staley's contract is through 2021 with a massive buyout. Not only that, Dawn is adored in Columbia.
Carolina is HER PROGRAM that she built for as long as she wants it.

Why leave to come to a program, that quite frankly isn't the job that it once was, when you know that there will be unreasonably high expectations?

Dawn's not coming to Tennessee for many reasons, don't pump their heads up.

 

[LadyVol1908]

Staley's contract is through 2021 with a massive buyout. Not only that, Dawn is adored in Columbia.
Carolina is HER PROGRAM that she built for as long as she wants it.

Why leave to come to a program, that quite frankly isn't the job that it once was, when you know that there will be unreasonably high expectations?

Dawn's not coming to Tennessee for many reasons, don't pump their heads up.

Lmao don't get too full of yourself. TRUST ME, there are VERY FEW who actually want her here!

 

[LVJeff]

Lmao don't get too full of yourself. TRUST ME, there are VERY FEW who actually want her here!

You got that right. With the exception of the same posters who keep posting the same names over and over again (Hi Meatysain!), I don't think there are very many that want those names to be coach of Tennessee. If South Carolina is happy with Dawn Staley and she is happy there then no reason for that to change.

 

[CockyGuy]

Lmao don't get too full of yourself. TRUST ME, there are VERY FEW who actually want her here!

Well, then we're in agreement. A win for everybody.

We don't want Dawn to leave, you don't want her to come, and Holly is still your coach.

 

[UCMiami]

Dawn's USA basketball credentials are impressive - three golds as a player, two time assistant on gold medal teams, and something like 17-0 as HC of junior teams. It is a good choice, though I was sort of hoping for Cheryl Reeves or another WNBA coach. Coaching the pros is very different from trying to teach college players so some of the question marks I have about her as a college coach aren't important. But she isn't going to have an easy time with a team in transition - they probably end up with a completely new set of guards by the 2020, and it may happen in the WC in 2018.
And don't be fooled by the scores, the line between success and failure is not that great because of the extremely limited practice time compared to the teams they play - the US lost in 2006 WC during the last transition period and the international players are better now than then. It is going to be an interesting period and players like Catch, Sue, and DT are going to be missed. We know Catch is not coming back and I suspect the other two aren't either.

 

[ncteacher88]

Although what Genno did was an unnessary slap in the face of one of the all time best women basketball players to play the game, he had announced prior that this was his last go around. Chosing Stewie and not choosing Parker is the most outrageous thinks I have ever seen. :crazy:

I want to preface this by saying that I am from Connecticut and a UConn graduate. I regularly read rival webpages to get a perspective I wouldn’t get solely reading a UConn site. I almost never comment on other teams’ sites. However, I want to share my opinion on the issue of CP being left off of the Olympic team. I understand that this is a sensitive issue to Tennessee fans, and there is no argument that she is a great player. I will not comment about the level of input the coach has on who makes the team, as I have no actual knowledge. However, I have been reading numerous posts on this very site about the level of effort that Geno requires from his players. It has been acknowledged by many Tennessee fans themselves that UConn players dive for loose balls and hustle continuously regardless of the score. There are always comments such as, “Geno wouldn’t allow that,” or “Geno would motivate them, etc.” I also believe that Geno has commented something along the lines of, "When CP wanted to be great she could take over a game, but it was not a consistent level of performance – she turned it on when she needed to." I know that it is difficult to digest, but I truly believe that Geno clearly does not hold any grudges and has clearly stated that he has moved on from considering Tennessee a rival, otherwise TC would not have made the team, and he would not have made so many complementary comments about her. (This is also true of the thread about Geno running up the score if they met in the NCAA's, which I also disagree with).

I believe that it is time to consider that it is possible that CP just did not fit into the mold of the player that he was looking for (if he indeed had that level of influence of who made the team). I also believe that the next edition of the Olympic team will also feature many former UConn players, even with Geno no longer as coach, as it is just the nature of their level of play over the past ten years. Regardless of what you think of Geno you might want to look at the player herself and many of the criticisms that I regularly see on this very site about giving effort on every play regardless of the situation.

As a side note: I believe that Herb Brooks chose 9 players from his college team for the Olympic hockey team which won the gold in 1980 (The Miracle on Ice). One of his arguments for his choices was familiarity, which was an important consideration due to lack of practice time, something even more important for last year's women's national team.

It is possible that Geno had no nefarious ulterior motive, other than to come back to the US with the gold, and the players were chosen that could best do that. I personally was not surprised with any of the choices except maybe that Ogwumike didn't make the team.

However, I am also sticking to my belief that the information provided by the committee, that he was not responsible for choosing the team regardless, is accurate.

I am also willing to accept that those so blinded by hate towards Geno will always believe that it was personal decision and nothing will ever convince them otherwise, and I can accept that.

 

[volnationnj]

I want to preface this by saying that I am from Connecticut and a UConn graduate. I regularly read rival webpages to get a perspective I wouldn’t get solely reading a UConn site. I almost never comment on other teams’ sites. However, I want to share my opinion on the issue of CP being left off of the Olympic team. I understand that this is a sensitive issue to Tennessee fans, and there is no argument that she is a great player. I will not comment about the level of input the coach has on who makes the team, as I have no actual knowledge. However, I have been reading numerous posts on this very site about the level of effort that Geno requires from his players. It has been acknowledged by many Tennessee fans themselves that UConn players dive for loose balls and hustle continuously regardless of the score. There are always comments such as, “Geno wouldn’t allow that,” or “Geno would motivate them, etc.” I also believe that Geno has commented something along the lines of, "When CP wanted to be great she could take over a game, but it was not a consistent level of performance – she turned it on when she needed to." I know that it is difficult to digest, but I truly believe that Geno clearly does not hold any grudges and has clearly stated that he has moved on from considering Tennessee a rival, otherwise TC would not have made the team, and he would not have made so many complementary comments about her. (This is also true of the thread about Geno running up the score if they met in the NCAA's, which I also disagree with).

I believe that it is time to consider that it is possible that CP just did not fit into the mold of the player that he was looking for (if he indeed had that level of influence of who made the team). I also believe that the next edition of the Olympic team will also feature many former UConn players, even with Geno no longer as coach, as it is just the nature of their level of play over the past ten years. Regardless of what you think of Geno you might want to look at the player herself and many of the criticisms that I regularly see on this very site about giving effort on every play regardless of the situation.

As a side note: I believe that Herb Brooks chose 9 players from his college team for the Olympic hockey team which won the gold in 1980 (The Miracle on Ice). One of his arguments for his choices was familiarity, which was an important consideration due to lack of practice time, something even more important for last year's women's national team.

It is possible that Geno had no nefarious ulterior motive, other than to come back to the US with the gold, and the players were chosen that could best do that. I personally was not surprised with any of the choices except maybe that Ogwumike didn't make the team.

However, I am also sticking to my belief that the information provided by the committee, that he was not responsible for choosing the team regardless, is accurate.

I am also willing to accept that those so blinded by hate towards Geno will always believe that it was personal decision and nothing will ever convince them otherwise, and I can accept that.

I'm not surprised that your defending geno.
Why do I think it's a useless exercise for our benefit ?

 

[LVJeff]

I want to preface this by saying that I am from Connecticut and a UConn graduate. I regularly read rival webpages to get a perspective I wouldn’t get solely reading a UConn site. I almost never comment on other teams’ sites. However, I want to share my opinion on the issue of CP being left off of the Olympic team. I understand that this is a sensitive issue to Tennessee fans, and there is no argument that she is a great player. I will not comment about the level of input the coach has on who makes the team, as I have no actual knowledge. However, I have been reading numerous posts on this very site about the level of effort that Geno requires from his players. It has been acknowledged by many Tennessee fans themselves that UConn players dive for loose balls and hustle continuously regardless of the score. There are always comments such as, “Geno wouldn’t allow that,” or “Geno would motivate them, etc.” I also believe that Geno has commented something along the lines of, "When CP wanted to be great she could take over a game, but it was not a consistent level of performance – she turned it on when she needed to." I know that it is difficult to digest, but I truly believe that Geno clearly does not hold any grudges and has clearly stated that he has moved on from considering Tennessee a rival, otherwise TC would not have made the team, and he would not have made so many complementary comments about her. (This is also true of the thread about Geno running up the score if they met in the NCAA's, which I also disagree with).

I believe that it is time to consider that it is possible that CP just did not fit into the mold of the player that he was looking for (if he indeed had that level of influence of who made the team). I also believe that the next edition of the Olympic team will also feature many former UConn players, even with Geno no longer as coach, as it is just the nature of their level of play over the past ten years. Regardless of what you think of Geno you might want to look at the player herself and many of the criticisms that I regularly see on this very site about giving effort on every play regardless of the situation.

As a side note: I believe that Herb Brooks chose 9 players from his college team for the Olympic hockey team which won the gold in 1980 (The Miracle on Ice). One of his arguments for his choices was familiarity, which was an important consideration due to lack of practice time, something even more important for last year's women's national team.

It is possible that Geno had no nefarious ulterior motive, other than to come back to the US with the gold, and the players were chosen that could best do that. I personally was not surprised with any of the choices except maybe that Ogwumike didn't make the team.

However, I am also sticking to my belief that the information provided by the committee, that he was not responsible for choosing the team regardless, is accurate.

I am also willing to accept that those so blinded by hate towards Geno will always believe that it was personal decision and nothing will ever convince them otherwise, and I can accept that.

And here we go again...another Uconn poster to put on ignore...

 

[Smallvol#1]

And here we go again...another Uconn poster to put on ignore...

What a great idea! Done. Thanks, Jeff.

 

[BMvol27]

I want to preface this by saying that I am from Connecticut and a UConn graduate. I regularly read rival webpages to get a perspective I wouldn’t get solely reading a UConn site. I almost never comment on other teams’ sites. However, I want to share my opinion on the issue of CP being left off of the Olympic team. I understand that this is a sensitive issue to Tennessee fans, and there is no argument that she is a great player. I will not comment about the level of input the coach has on who makes the team, as I have no actual knowledge. However, I have been reading numerous posts on this very site about the level of effort that Geno requires from his players. It has been acknowledged by many Tennessee fans themselves that UConn players dive for loose balls and hustle continuously regardless of the score. There are always comments such as, “Geno wouldn’t allow that,” or “Geno would motivate them, etc.” I also believe that Geno has commented something along the lines of, "When CP wanted to be great she could take over a game, but it was not a consistent level of performance – she turned it on when she needed to." I know that it is difficult to digest, but I truly believe that Geno clearly does not hold any grudges and has clearly stated that he has moved on from considering Tennessee a rival, otherwise TC would not have made the team, and he would not have made so many complementary comments about her. (This is also true of the thread about Geno running up the score if they met in the NCAA's, which I also disagree with).

I believe that it is time to consider that it is possible that CP just did not fit into the mold of the player that he was looking for (if he indeed had that level of influence of who made the team). I also believe that the next edition of the Olympic team will also feature many former UConn players, even with Geno no longer as coach, as it is just the nature of their level of play over the past ten years. Regardless of what you think of Geno you might want to look at the player herself and many of the criticisms that I regularly see on this very site about giving effort on every play regardless of the situation.

As a side note: I believe that Herb Brooks chose 9 players from his college team for the Olympic hockey team which won the gold in 1980 (The Miracle on Ice). One of his arguments for his choices was familiarity, which was an important consideration due to lack of practice time, something even more important for last year's women's national team.

It is possible that Geno had no nefarious ulterior motive, other than to come back to the US with the gold, and the players were chosen that could best do that. I personally was not surprised with any of the choices except maybe that Ogwumike didn't make the team.

However, I am also sticking to my belief that the information provided by the committee, that he was not responsible for choosing the team regardless, is accurate.

I am also willing to accept that those so blinded by hate towards Geno will always believe that it was personal decision and nothing will ever convince them otherwise, and I can accept that.

You're wrong.

 

[Rickster]

And here we go again...another Uconn poster to put on ignore...

Already done. What's truly amazing is their propensity to lecture in long drawn out posts. Some of their logic is so convoluted that it takes a lot of words to beat the reader into submission. Just asking them to go to the barnyard would be pointless as the other UCONN fans on this board will only jump to their defense.

 

[BengalHuskie]

A young player when it's convenient. If that were the case, then why didn't he put Neka Ogwumike on the olympic team that year when he had two past their prime Uconn players IMO on the team in Swin Cash, and Aja Jones?

A young player when they have the credentials to back it up & are seen as the future of USA basketball*

Diana- 2004 [3x champ, 2xMOP, Wade, 2x Naismith, USBWA, AP, 2x Nancy Lieberman]

CP- 2008 [2x champ, 2xMOP, AP, 2x USBWA, Naismith, 2x Wooden, Wade, 2x Honda Sports]

Maya- 2011 [2xchamp, 1xMOP, 3x Wade, 2x Naismith, 2x Wooden, 2x AP, 2x USWBA, 2x Honda Sports]

Stewie- 2016 [4x champ, 4xMOP, 3x AP, 3x USWBA, 3x Naismith, 2x Wade, 2x Wooden, 3x Honda Sports]

Nneka wasn't gonna be the young player on the team, it was gonna be Brittany Griner but she didn't participate because of family issues at the time.