Next DC for the Vols????

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jarvol said:
Yeah Dooley ran up 40 on him last year at LaTech. No thanks.
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I was in Ruston for that game against Boise. At half time it was like 27-7 Boise. Third play of the 2nd half Tech intercepted the pass for a 75+ td.

Boise State defense shut Tech down the first half. Boise States offense fumbled several time the second half that gave Tech easy scores.
 
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Personally I think our DC will come from the NFL. Karl Dunbar is who I think we will get in the end. He has an SEC and NFL pedigree. He is currently coaching D line for the Minnesota Vikings and was on staff with Dooley at LSU. He will make a great DC IMO! Check out my thread on him for more info.
 
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Jewbaccah said:
I heard some other names from TOS...all NFL though. But ones who have been DCs not Dunbar.
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Well Dunbar seems like a possibilty especially when he has ties to Dooley at LSU. I dont see any college DC'S making a lateral move so close to signing day, so I think hiring someone like Dunbar is the best option at this point.
 
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Ihatethebuckeyes said:
best bet is to get a coach on an NFL staff that is good but is in a losing situation. The Oakland Raider situation is a good example. They play excellent Defense but can't win because Al davis loves the idiot qb they have. Now before I get slaughtered for mentioning the Raiders and Al Davis I am only using this as an example of what type fo situation we could look for. There are other coaches out there in the nfl who probably feel that they are in a no win situation just like Charlie Bagget did. I say we don't look at NCAA but look at NFL.
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I think Dave McGinnis is the PERFECT candidate...he is currently the LB's coach for the Titans...but has been DC for the Cardinals 4 yrs, before being promoted to HC there...and remained HC for 3 years, before coming to the Titans. He SHOULD and probably would have been promoted back to DC after Shwartz got hired as HC at Detroit...but he told Jeff Fisher to go ahead and let Chuck Cecil take the DC spot...that he was ok where he was.
Defensive guys going from the NFL back to college have done really well for the most part, and I think Dave would be perfect for the spot...he coached Mike Singletary for 7yrs...so, this would be my pick at this point.
Tennessee Titans: Dave McGinnis

Dave McGinnis, a 36-year coaching veteran, enters his sixth season with the Titans as the club's linebackers coach and fifth as Assistant Head Coach.

McGinnis has 23 seasons of NFL experience, including three and a half years as the head coach for the Arizona Cardinals. One of the most respected defensive minds in the game, McGinnis directed the Cardinals defense as their defensive coordinator from 1996 to 2000
 
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
I think Dave McGinnis is the PERFECT candidate...
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Exactly the kind of guy that Dooley needs to lay a solid foundation.

Vols will be glad if they can get him instead of Steele.

Anybody else notice that all the hot new coaching candidates worked for Saban at some point?
 
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GATA1980 said:
Exactly the kind of guy that Dooley needs to lay a solid foundation.

Vols will be glad if they can get him instead of Steele.

Anybody else notice that all the hot new coaching candidates worked for Saban at some point?
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Saban is a very good coach and recruiter...which makes him a great college coach. So assistances with ties are now the "Flavor of the Month" til the next big splash.
 
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VolTech said:
Don't forget while Dooley was an assistant coach at LSU he recommended Muschamp and Smart to LSU's Saban as assistants too hire.

I have full confidence in DOOleys ability to find find young assistants
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WOW! I had never heard that before. What is your source? Got a Link?

That should put all Vols minds at ease as far as recognizing talent in coaches. Especially on the defensive side of the ball!

I've got a feeling Dooley is going to do great things for the Vols.
 
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I agree that the DC will be a defensive position coach in the NFL. My top choices...

1. Travis Jones-SEC experiece and ties in Miami with a recruiting background.
2. Karl Dunbar- SEC experience with solid defensive lines with the Vikings.

I prefer Jones solely based on his recruiting edge over Dunbar.
 
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VolsFan01 said:
Who are we going after now that steele said no and would we contact any of these guys?

Jim Heacock-Ohio State
Brent Venables-Oklahoma
Tom Bradley-Penn State
Jeff Casteel- WVU
Ellis Johnson-South Carolina
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Why wouldn't steele do it? He just wasn't up to the challenge and scrutiny?
 
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GATA1980 said:
WOW! I had never heard that before. What is your source? Got a Link?

That should put all Vols minds at ease as far as recognizing talent in coaches. Especially on the defensive side of the ball!

I've got a feeling Dooley is going to do great things for the Vols.
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Don't have a link but that is true, I heard it somewhere other than a message board. Remember muschamp played at Georgia. Saban is a tyrant who works all the time, is a perfectionist and is relentless. Any coach that can live up to his standards ( especially for 7 yes a la dd) and have learned his system has a great chance at success. Plus if you have worked for him you have worked with the other guys that could satisfy saban (a la Thompson).
 
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
I think Dave McGinnis is the PERFECT candidate...he is currently the LB's coach for the Titans...but has been DC for the Cardinals 4 yrs, before being promoted to HC there...and remained HC for 3 years, before coming to the Titans. He SHOULD and probably would have been promoted back to DC after Shwartz got hired as HC at Detroit...but he told Jeff Fisher to go ahead and let Chuck Cecil take the DC spot...that he was ok where he was.
Defensive guys going from the NFL back to college have done really well for the most part, and I think Dave would be perfect for the spot...he coached Mike Singletary for 7yrs...so, this would be my pick at this point.
Tennessee Titans: Dave McGinnis

Dave McGinnis, a 36-year coaching veteran, enters his sixth season with the Titans as the club's linebackers coach and fifth as Assistant Head Coach.

McGinnis has 23 seasons of NFL experience, including three and a half years as the head coach for the Arizona Cardinals. One of the most respected defensive minds in the game, McGinnis directed the Cardinals defense as their defensive coordinator from 1996 to 2000
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This is exactly the type of guy I have heard they are looking at so relax. Not this guy yet but same resume been a DC now a position coach in the NFL.
 
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You people wanting Garner-Thompson just baffle me. That would be the opposite of a good idea. If you want to give it to someone who might not be ready to run their own defense, just pick Thompson. Does Garner even want the responsibility of being a DC? I'd MUCH rather have Sunseri than this Garner-Thompson duo.
He's a good coach with good experience. Also, he's got extremely colorful language...so that's always fun!
 
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Panthro said:
You people wanting Garner-Thompson just baffle me. That would be the opposite of a good idea. If you want to give it to someone who might not be ready to run their own defense, just pick Thompson. Does Garner even want the responsibility of being a DC? I'd MUCH rather have Sunseri than this Garner-Thompson duo.
He's a good coach with good experience. Also, he's got extremely colorful language...so that's always fun!
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I'll re-iterate....before joining Saban at Bama, Lance Thompson was the DC for UCF. Ok? People keep talking like he's not ready to "Move Up" to being a DC. He's coached D Line and LB's. Sometimes a coach with move to a bigger/higher profile program and take a short step down temporarily. That's what Thompson obviously has done.
What's more is he got to soak up an entire year of DC knowledge being fused to Monte's hip last season. Surely you can see the progression here. It's a tough choice for Thompson and Dooley. Nevertheless, 2 phone calls and Dooley can settle it real quick-like. One to Monte, and one to Saban. Ask them if he's ready...their assessment will carry more weight than anyone here.

I think one much overlooked benefit in going with Thompson is that he's likely to run the same system as Monte did (with some tweaks and adjustments of his own), and that would mean no steep learning curve for the defense. They could largely pick up where they left off this year...and IMHO, all things considered he'd be one hell of a DC. I still would like to see McGinnis, because aside from this year (largely due to losing Haynesworth, injuries, new DC), the Titans defense has been among the best in the league for years. We'd be foolish to overlook someone like Dave McGinnis, who has that much experience, and had been a DC for a while in the NFL.

To me...he's the best option, and for the same sort of contract that was offered Steele, I'd have to like our chances.
 
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The problem with promoting Lance T now is that the perception will be that we couldn't get who we wanted so we "settled" for him. I'd like to see him get the DC position if the perception doesn't hurt our recruiting.
 
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Volinnooga said:
The problem with promoting Lance T now is that the perception will be that we couldn't get who we wanted so we "settled" for him. I'd like to see him get the DC position if the perception doesn't hurt our recruiting.
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Same could be said about CDD. To sell recruits, he has to point at his tenure under Saban....Thompson has that on his resume too, as well as Monte. If it wasn't for him getting that year under Monte on top of his former DC stint and time under Saban, I might not be so big on him getting moved up. I just think the continuity helps this team. having to learn a whole new system all over again, set's the program back a little...no matter who you bring in. That's why I think Thompson is the one candidate who could actually move things forward.

It really boils down to how well he understands the x's and o's, and Monte raved about him in an interview months ago, in that regard. Like I said...NFL guys give college programs fits, and why I'd like to see McGinnis first. UF went relatively vanilla on us in their game...Meyer said they were afraid of Monte's ability to disguise blitzes and catch them in a bad playcall. Thompson knows what Monte likes to call and when to call it. McGinnis would give SEC teams fits too. They're exceptional at showing offenses multiple looks, and switching out of them at the last second. Frustrated Peyton every time he went up against Widnehoffer's defense at Vandy.
 
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Volinnooga said:
The problem with promoting Lance T now is that the perception will be that we couldn't get who we wanted so we "settled" for him. I'd like to see him get the DC position if the perception doesn't hurt our recruiting.
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I'd be less concerned about recruiting and more about results.

The only reason we were competitive at all last year and won any games in 2008 was because of a solid defense.

The loss of Berry will hurt whoever takes over this season, but we need to make the right hire to win games more than help recruiting.

That said, Lance may feel that perception that we settled for him, and want to prove he belongs. This could be very good for results. It may work out.
 
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Volinnooga said:
The problem with promoting Lance T now is that the perception will be that we couldn't get who we wanted so we "settled" for him. I'd like to see him get the DC position if the perception doesn't hurt our recruiting.
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Really he is such a great recruiter that being a DC would probally take away from that. I am just so glad he stayed....but I also think if he ever leaves it will be for a DC job so lots to consider. Not to mention does he want it....who knows....:hi:
 
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Don't get me wrong--I am delighted he stayed too. I think he's probably be the real difference maker in holding what we have.
 
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