New student section?

#51
#51
volplaya8 said:
Bottom Lines on this issue are:

1) Universities the size of UT lose focus on what is important. The students are the best/rowdiest fans in the place. They bring Neyland to life and it is contagious through the rest of the crowd. Most big schools are more worried about the almighty $$$ than taking care fo their own.
2) Paying tuition and all the fees associated with it should guarantee students "free" tickets to the game.
3) All UT would have to do is charge students $50 more dollars in fees/tuiton, that they are going to have to pay anyway. They already hike up tuition every year,so why do they need even more $$$ out of students pockets. Raise the fee at the beginning of the semester so students will owe a little more on their low interest college loans...do not make them come up with $10 or $20 here or there that they could use for something else.
4) With a 100,000 seat stadium and fan base of UT we should pack the place in a 12-0 or 0-12 season...UT football will live on and on, in good or bad, resign yourself to love the team no matter what. Cherish the great years that come now and again, but support the team in down years.
5) GO VOLS...here is hoping the students come out no matter the situation...there is nothing better in yoru college years than football on Saturdays in East Tennessee!!!
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1) Again; Florida, LSU, Penn State, Ohio State, aren't big enough schools for you. They all charge their students for tickets.
2) Why should this "guarantee" ANYTHING?
3) When the hell did 70 bucks become a lot of money?
4) Thats just silly, 0-12? You just cannot expect that type of loyalty, because over time, a team that goes 0-12 doesn't deserve that loyalty.
5) Finally, something we can agree on!
 
#52
#52
Ohiovol09 said:
You guys that are done with school and on with working full time don't understand now that you're making 50,000 + a year. I have enough money and go to every home game and most away, but I am echoing other students problems. Its not cheap paying tuition, rent, books, etc on minimum wage. And how in the hell do you think its possible to work full time while being a full time student?
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Actually, I'm still a grad student.
 
#53
#53
Midfielder10 said:
And you guys are preaching to the choir here. I go to every single game, and most ,every student posting in this thread has claimed the same thing. It's not enough money to keep me from going to the games, but I understand that most of the UT students could care less about football (nerds,GDIs) and its going to be tough to get them to pay to watch our team get pounded.
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You're kidding right?
 
#54
#54
As with all fans the students are doing the cost/benefit at a lower price point. If the team starts turning it around no one will care that the student prices are $10 - $20 per game. The students are not giving up tickets for lack of money, they are just deciding that the $10 for that week can be better spent on beer or whatever. The problem is the program has basically done nothing of note since 2001.
 
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volconomist said:
1) Again; Florida, LSU, Penn State, Ohio State, aren't big enough schools for you. They all charge their students for tickets.
2) Why should this "guarantee" ANYTHING?
3) When the hell did 70 bucks become a lot of money?
4) Thats just silly, 0-12? You just cannot expect that type of loyalty, because over time, a team that goes 0-12 doesn't deserve that loyalty.
5) Finally, something we can agree on!
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1) Exactly...like I said, schools that size lose out on what makes them a school that size. UT is not the only one, just joining all the others chasing the almighty $$$.
2) I would saying paying at least $8,000 dollars a year tothe institution should get you in Neyland for 6-7 home games a year. When you fork over that much a year to the school, then I am sure you will have your tickets as well.
3) Yes 0-12..because UT would not go 0-12 over time. 0-12 seasons are more rare than 12-0 seasons,so most down seasons we have 5 to 7 wins. 5 to 7 wins is not great, but it is competetive. If a team is competetive and you have kids working their butts off...I think the fans owe them a full stadium.
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#56
#56
volplaya8 said:
1) Exactly...like I said, schools that size lose out on what makes them a school that size. UT is not the only one, just joining all the others chasing the almighty $$$.
2) I would saying paying at least $8,000 dollars a year tothe institution should get you in Neyland for 6-7 home games a year. When you fork over that much a year to the school, then I am sure you will have your tickets as well.
3) Yes 0-12..because UT would not go 0-12 over time. 0-12 seasons are more rare than 12-0 seasons,so most down seasons we have 5 to 7 wins. 5 to 7 wins is not great, but it is competetive. If a team is competetive and you have kids working their butts off...I think the fans owe them a full stadium.
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1) My point was that those school charge, but have some of the largest student sections in the country. Students there are not being scared off by paying for tickets. It goes back to the product on the field. Someone who wouldn't pay ten bucks to go see a 6-6 UT team, probably wouldn't go for free either. Though, I'll admit thats an assumption, but one I make based on being here when we were charged and not.
2) Again, paying tuition to the University entitles you to nothing as far as athletic events. The Athletic department allows the privilege of free admittance to every other sporting event, but football. Thats due to the overall cost of running the relative programs. You want to come to games, you're going to need to support the program. Lets remember that Tennessee football is entirely self-sufficient, they receive no tuition dollars to run their program
3) We pay money to attend football games, what do we owe anybody? We may choose to be loyal, out of our own desire to see Tennessee succeed, but I certainly don't OWE the football team my allegiance, though they certainly receive it.
 
#57
#57
$10 = one movie ticket, two meals at a fast food restaurant, one iTunes album, two packs of cigarettes, or a twelve-pack of crappy beer...all things that many college students seem to find cash to afford on a regular basis

To those complaining about their minimum wage jobs: Have you considered doing something that pays better? My menial college job in the hospital paid well more than the minimum, was eligible for overtime/nighttime shift-differential, and I was able to take paid call on nights and weekends for backup coverage. There are plenty of options where one can make more money without a degree or certification, it just depends on how willing you are to work and how particular you are with what you have to do.
 
#58
#58
volconomist said:
1) My point was that those school charge, but have some of the largest student sections in the country. Students there are not being scared off by paying for tickets. It goes back to the product on the field. Someone who wouldn't pay ten bucks to go see a 6-6 UT team, probably wouldn't go for free either. Though, I'll admit thats an assumption, but one I make based on being here when we were charged and not.
2) Again, paying tuition to the University entitles you to nothing as far as athletic events. The Athletic department allows the privilege of free admittance to every other sporting event, but football. Thats due to the overall cost of running the relative programs. You want to come to games, you're going to need to support the program. Lets remember that Tennessee football is entirely self-sufficient, they receive no tuition dollars to run their program
3) We pay money to attend football games, what do we owe anybody? We may choose to be loyal, out of our own desire to see Tennessee succeed, but I certainly don't OWE the football team my allegiance, though they certainly receive it.
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It all falls back on the product...the problem is we might as well give the students free tickets that they will use instead of having 10,000 open seats in the upper level when we play anybody other than Alabama, Florida, or Georgia. 10,000 seats that will be filled by supporters of another team instead of our own student body. UT football is not hurting for anything, so jack up activities fees and give them their tickets. I do not want to see my stadium filled with other teams fans or empty. FYI...most of those schools you listed not only have better products at this moment on the field, but also have a bigger student population to sell to. All the Big Ten schools are enormous when it comes to student population.
 
#60
#60
Instead of the student section starting in D, they are starting it in E and tacking on one more section for students to the end of the old seating system. The rule is the students cannot be behind the visiting team, so thats why the D section is gone.
 
#61
#61
erhodes2 said:
Instead of the student section starting in D, they are starting it in E and tacking on one more section for students to the end of the old seating system. The rule is the students cannot be behind the visiting team, so thats why the D section is gone.
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Were I a student, I'd be a little upset about this. They just lost their best section and gained a new worst.
 
#62
#62
erhodes2 said:
Instead of the student section starting in D, they are starting it in E and tacking on one more section for students to the end of the old seating system. The rule is the students cannot be behind the visiting team, so thats why the D section is gone.
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Is UT moving to the other sideline this year? Section D has always been behind UT's bench during my time as a student.
 
#64
#64
erhodes2 said:
Instead of the student section starting in D, they are starting it in E and tacking on one more section for students to the end of the old seating system. The rule is the students cannot be behind the visiting team, so thats why the D section is gone.
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I was under the impression that D wasn't gone, just that students couldn't sit in the 20 or 25 rows closest to the field.
 
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