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#26
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cherokeeeVOL said:
The reason they lost was 100% the defense. You should win a game scoring 28. This is one of the worst defenses I’ve ever seen.
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disagree. its 2025 and we have an "offensive genius" as a head coach. we should be able to score more than 30 with our eyes closed and one are cut off.

our defense is obviously the biggest problem but our offense was the most disappointing thing on the field last night offense scored 21 against a mid big 10 team.....that's terrible
 
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The offense has to be tweaked for sure. I think they press and try to hit the deep over the top too often. Decent teams take that away with a 2-3 deep look. Offensively we were able to gash them on the ground and we still found ways to kill drives chasing the deep ball. Not one time were they fooled with play action.
 
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Volsbattle said:
We were the best when we played the high school teams on our schedule. Putting up points, dancing on the sidelines. We play a team with a half way good defense, we get beat. Teams have figured out the vols offense. Look how many times we were sacked last night. Nobody open.
Our defense will get better, with the new defense coach. Offensive wise, we need to come up with a balance of run, and pass.
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We did well on offense against UGA and Oklahoma too..

we didn't lose this year because of our offense, we all know what the issues actually were
 
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EastTNVol423 said:
disagree. its 2025 and we have an "offensive genius" as a head coach. we should be able to score more than 30 with our eyes closed and one are cut off.

our defense is obviously the biggest problem but our offense was the most disappointing thing on the field last night offense scored 21 against a mid big 10 team.....that's terrible
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We probably would have if our kicker could hit a FG and our defense wasn't on the field for the last 12 minutes of the 4th quarter
 
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HooahVol said:
Came to say the same. Just a few stats to show how "bad" his offense is:

  • Scoring Offense: Ranked #1 nationally (2022).
  • Total Offense: Ranked #1 nationally (2022, 2023).
  • Points Per Game: #1 nationally (2022).
  • Even in this disappointing year we have the 11th ranked total offense.
Needless to say offense is not our problem.
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could you reformat those 3 stats to only include SEC games? Our offense was not so great in the SEC, especially in the red zone.
 
#32
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Rickyvol77 said:
We probably would have if our kicker could hit a FG and our defense wasn't on the field for the last 12 minutes of the 4th quarter
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its weird to say but that kick off return probably hurt us as much as helped us haha don't get me wrong...im not taking up for the defense at all but they gave up 30. our high powered offense should be able to score that against a mid level team any day of the week. why couldn't our offense score a TD and not put it on the kicker? i just thought the offense looked slow and out of sync the whole time. defense did exactly what i expected (maybe gave up less points than expected) but the offense was wayyyyyy worse than it should have been in that game.
 
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Tempo has its place…… need better route combos.

The defense is atrocious guys.

I mean this year the inability to set an edge has been staggering. Our ends have rushed so far upfield that QBs get no brainer rush lanes. Safety’s not getting depth over the middle on drops. I mean, it’s bad.

You don’t win games without forcing 3 and outs…. The defense gave up 10 plays a possession.
 
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If you're going to lose the time of possession battle every game you can't waste possessions. Too many times this year they did that. We saw the good and bad of Joey Aguilar in the games against better teams. Vols simply wasted too many possessions and their defense wasn't going to make up for it..
 
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#37
You can't score or have any type of offense rhythm when you don't have the ball.

Teams have found out that the best way to stop Tennessee's offense is to keep the ball away from us. And as our defense couldn't stop a 90-year-old grandmother from getting a first down on 3rd down - we made it easy for teams to do that.
 
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AndyMizunogolfer said:
The offense has to be tweaked for sure. I think they press and try to hit the deep over the top too often. Decent teams take that away with a 2-3 deep look. Offensively we were able to gash them on the ground and we still found ways to kill drives chasing the deep ball. Not one time were they fooled with play action.
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Watching it live there last night, I don't think I've ever seen a team play their safties as deep as Illinois did all game. Absolutely were not going to give up a deep shot. They were going to make us be patient run, take the long route. I think that's what we need to find the counter punch for.

It did look it gave us some opportunities in the screens and check downs. One thing that I wondered was where the TEs were. They way they were aligning it looked like they could have been more involved.

As much as I appreciate and respect Bishop- that guy runs hard- it looked like if we had a guy with just a bit more explosiveness some of those 5,6,7 yard runs could have been 15, 20+ yard homeruns that would have really punished Illinois for what they were doing with their safties and LBs.
 
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hbjordan said:
Watching it live there last night, I don't think I've ever seen a team play their safties as deep as Illinois did all game. Absolutely were not going to give up a deep shot. They were going to make us be patient run, take the long route. I think that's what we need to find the counter punch for.

It did look it gave us some opportunities in the screens and check downs. One thing that I wondered was where the TEs were. They way they were aligning it looked like they could have been more involved.

As much as I appreciate and respect Bishop- that guy runs hard- it looked like if we had a guy with just a bit more explosiveness some of those 5,6,7 yard runs could have been 15, 20+ yard homeruns that would have really punished Illinois for what they were doing with their safties and LBs.
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I am glad I didn't go. I was at the Vandy game and watched them straight up quit.

The defense or I guess lack of is what killed this season. Although something is missing with this offense. It is like there is a mental block in the play calling when the deep ball is taken away. Maybe Joey was just limited on the passes that he can complete. I don't really understand overall why they cannot find ways to push the ball down the field in zone coverage. We saw our defense get shredded all year long with passes in the middle of the field. I just don't get why we cannot make these same throws? They take the deep ball away ok, go big and pound the rock. Or you go double TE and kill them down the seam.

I do agree that Bishop lacks that break away speed at times. It is really odd though because like that MS ST run to in OT he looked like he was shot out of a cannon.
 
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DooleyOrangePants said:
What hurry up? Heupel has spent all season backing slowly away from it to where half the time it seems like he’s purposely slowing it down.
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Correct. We only run it in the 1st quarter, jump out front, then go in a shell instead of pressing. Only diff against ILL is BB had a plan to ward off the frontal attack and it worked. He's one of the few, if not only coach, this season that attcked us defensively on 1st series and pressed us isntead of sitting back to see what we were gonna do. I'd say it was mostly successful because JA was hesititant to see if Jackson could step up early.
 
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orangemadam said:
could you reformat those 3 stats to only include SEC games? Our offense was not so great in the SEC, especially in the red zone.
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Moving the goal posts. At no time in the response you replied to did the op say that we won the SEC. This response is typical of two types of posters. Either a troll or just a miserable argumentative person.
 
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Tnphil said:
Probably not a real bad idea....With this sorry ass defense....if we were scoring fast at will we'd have to score 60. See what happened when we scored quick on a kickoff return? Yeah...that's what I mean. We'd have been better off going on a 5 minute ground and pound drive.
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We wouldnt have done that though, we would have tried to pass 3 times, maybe hit one or 2 and Joey gets sacked 2-3 times then we have to go for it on multiple 4th downs. Heupel refused to run when they refused to not sell out on the pass.
 
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#45
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themicah85 said:
We wouldnt have done that though, we would have tried to pass 3 times, maybe hit one or 2 and Joey gets sacked 2-3 times then we have to go for it on multiple 4th downs. Heupel refused to run when they refused to not sell out on the pass.
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Truth. And why wasn't we hitting the TEs underneath with Illinois daring us to go deep? If I was a top TE recruit I'd laugh at a UT offer.
 
#46
#46
Big Orange Captain said:
I’m tired of the Heupel “hurry up” offense the novelty of it is over with and i think better teams have figured it out. I know the only way we get a new offense is when we get a new HC cause Heupel will never change. But man i miss the old pro style offense hell i wouid settle for the ground and pound that that Illinois runs.
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So you are tired of having too 5-10 nationally ranked offenses? Cool story. How about we go back to the Pruitt style offense huh? That offense would definitely have us winning more than we do now right 🙄🙄🙄
 
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Tnphil said:
Probably not a real bad idea....With this sorry ass defense....if we were scoring fast at will we'd have to score 60. See what happened when we scored quick on a kickoff return? Yeah...that's what I mean. We'd have been better off going on a 5 minute ground and pound drive.
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Why do some of you think this defense will be the same as it was this year? My God some of think that football teams can’t improve.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
So you are tired of having too 5-10 nationally ranked offenses? Cool story. How about we go back to the Pruitt style offense huh? That offense would definitely have us winning more than we do now right 🙄🙄🙄
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We lost 4 games where Heupel's offense scored in the 20s...You call that a great offense. Looks great against the also rans though.
 
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HooahVol said:
Came to say the same. Just a few stats to show how "bad" his offense is:

  • Scoring Offense: Ranked #1 nationally (2022).
  • Total Offense: Ranked #1 nationally (2022, 2023).
  • Points Per Game: #1 nationally (2022).
  • Even in this disappointing year we have the 11th ranked total offense.
Needless to say offense is not our problem.
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Generally I agree, and even in our losses, it's not like we got shut out.

However, in our losses, all to ranked teams except IL and UGA, where our offense played well, we scored 20 vs Bama, 27 vs OK, 24 vs Vandy, and 28 vs IL. With this D, 35 is the minimum to have any prayer of being in the game.
 
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