New Commit - DE/LB Martaze Jackson

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Oracle69 said:
You forgot to say "the sky is falling!"Sheesh ... watched any TV lately? You may have seen we lost our HC, DC and Recruiting Coordinator ... Maybe, just maybe, you can give DD a pass if we are playing catch-up. :rtfm:
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No, merely expressing an opinion.
 
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#29
Why is it when a--h--- would go after a 3 star (Jose Jose (was he a 2?), Ralph Williams, Zack Fulton) he got the benefit of the doubt and CDD doesn't? Pure speculation on my part, but it wouldn't surprise me if this someone CDD had been watching for a while given regional proximity to LaTech and believes to have a big upside potential. CDD isn't a babe in the woods when it comes to recruiting and despite my initial misgivings about his hire, I'm inclined to trust his judgement for a while.
 
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cbrown said:
There are many examples of players that exceeded their recruiting ranking, but I would rather have a class with a 3.75 average than one with a 3.25 average. My point is that Tennessee will not be competitive with the Floridas and Alabamas with a significant number of recruits of this caliber.
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I agree.....plus you factor in the coaches he has hired:no:
 
#32
#32
munsterlander said:
Why is it when a--h--- would go after a 3 star (Jose Jose (was he a 2?), Ralph Williams, Zack Fulton) he got the benefit of the doubt and CDD doesn't? Pure speculation on my part, but it wouldn't surprise me if this someone CDD had been watching for a while given regional proximity to LaTech and believes to have a big upside potential. CDD isn't a babe in the woods when it comes to recruiting and despite my initial misgivings about his hire, I'm inclined to trust his judgement for a while.
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Good call. His judgement was a big contributer to his success as Recruiting Coordinator at LSU when they raked in two #1 classes.
 
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cbrown said:
There are many examples of players that exceeded their recruiting ranking, but I would rather have a class with a 3.75 average than one with a 3.25 average. My point is that Tennessee will not be competitive with the Floridas and Alabamas with a significant number of recruits of this caliber.
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Fail.........it's all up to coaching and potential. Scout and Rivals all see whats on paper and thru video of the players and get paid by colleges to "push" the players. Coaches get paid to see the potential and develop it. I'd rather trust someone who is going to have to live with their decision rather than someone who solicits for money. Coach em up CDD!!! :rock:
 
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cbrown said:
Am I the only one who is concerned that Tennessee is poaching players from a football program that wasn't in existence two years ago? And yes, I realize the Rivals rankings don't mean everything, but the do mean something. This athlete may turn out to be a stud, but if this is going to be representative of Tennessee's overall recruiting efforts, there is reason for concern.
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I see what you are saying, but this late in the game I believe we are taking guys with potential just to add much needed depth. This time next year if we are still poaching 2 and 3 stars, that may be time to be concerned.
 
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volfan69 said:
Fail.........it's all up to coaching and potential. Scout and Rivals all see whats on paper and thru video of the players and get paid by colleges to "push" the players. Coaches get paid to see the potential and develop it. I'd rather trust someone who is going to have to live with their decision rather than someone who solicits for money. Coach em up CDD!!! :rock:
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Can't agree with that one. Many things go into success, the most important of which is talent.
 
#36
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TENNESSEESLIM said:
I see what you are saying, but this late in the game I believe we are taking guys with potential just to add much needed depth. This time next year if we are still poaching 2 and 3 stars, that may be time to be concerned.
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Agree.
 
#37
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cbrown said:
Can't agree with that one. Many things go into success, the most important of which is talent.
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So Appy State is more talented than Michigan?

The most important thing is not talent at all.

I'll take a 3-star recruit with excellent coaching and technique over a talented 5-star almost all of the time.
 
#38
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rockytop9808 said:
So Appy State is more talented than Michigan?

The most important thing is not talent at all.

I'll take a 3-star recruit with excellent coaching and technique over a talented 5-star almost all of the time.
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:crazy: than why dont you go root for Kentucky because you just described them :eek:lol:
 
#39
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rockytop9808 said:
So Appy State is more talented than Michigan?
The most important thing is not talent at all.

I'll take a 3-star recruit with excellent coaching and technique over a talented 5-star almost all of the time.
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I did not say that. You're citing one of the top two or three upsets in college football history as an example. There isn't a single coach alive who would not want to have superior talent. Would you rather have a 5-star player with superior coaching and desire or a 3-star player with superior coaching and desire?
 
#40
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rockytop9808 said:
So Appy State is more talented than Michigan?

The most important thing is not talent at all.

I'll take a 3-star recruit with excellent coaching and technique over a talented 5-star almost all of the time.
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Look at Bama's last three recruiting classes. Then look what they just did. Coincidence? Hell, talent was the biggest reason we won it in '98...
 
#41
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utvols1975 said:
JUST DOO IT! Way to go CDD and staff locking down another player in a very important depth position for us. At this rate, we'll have 25 commits in no time!

GO VOLS!!! V, B :baloon:
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We could have 25 commitments by tomorrow if we offer a bunch more guys whose best previous offers were Georgia State and South Alabama.

Filling the class is not of utmost importance.

This is of little reflection on Dooley. He doesn't have much of a choice at this point. But, wow, have our expectations lowered.
 
#42
#42
I like the pick up...here's a big reason why:

The 6-foot-2, 205-pound linebacker from Demopolis (Ala.) High School told the News Sentinel on Sunday he committed during his official visit this weekend after exploring Tennessee’s engineering school.

“It was a really good school,” said Jackson, who plans to major in electrical engineering in college.

Then there was UT’s athletic department, which also won Jackson over.

“The football program is real nice,” Jackson said. “There’s going to be real big changes coming.”



Good to see someone wanting some academics, also!
 
#43
#43
My goodness, can you imagine if you were a recruit and you or your friends came on a place like this and all the fan base was talking about is how they don't want you.

We are looking at measurables here folks. Look at the measurables on JJ McCleasky and think about the impact he had on this program.

Not every kid that comes in is going to be a 4.5 LB that goes to the NFL, but if he can contribute to this team in years 4 and 5 thats still a great signing.

Put this kid in a weight room and get him on a proper strength and conditioning program and he will be 6'2 225 in no time, and that forty time just may cut a tenth to a 4.6.

Now if thats his measurables going into his redshirt sophmore year was he still a bad signing? And if not, he can play special teams and contribute to this team and who knows maybe there are leadership qualities in a kid that already gave up his most recruitable position to play Defensive end cause it made more sense for his TEAM.

We know very little about these recruits and to judge them like some of you are to the point of not even wanting them on a team when we will be lucky to get to the 28 scholorship limit for this year. Sometimes I dont get it.
 
#44
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raynochonspeed said:
We could have 25 commitments by tomorrow if we offer a bunch more guys whose best previous offers were Georgia State and South Alabama.

Filling the class is not of utmost importance.

This is of little reflection on Dooley. He doesn't have much of a choice at this point. But, wow, have our expectations lowered.
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The average star rating of Dooley's commits is 3.67, (which is actually higher than our overall rating of 3.56) so so far, no. We'll see, but people are definitely overreacting...
 
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VKAman said:
The average star rating of Dooley's commits is 3.67, (which is actually higher than our overall rating of 3.56) so so far, no. We'll see, but people are definitely overreacting...
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As usual. it has turned into an overreaction factory.
 
#46
#46
Im happy to have both guys, I think both can contribute and there is no harm in having guys that are actually glad to be here.
 
#47
#47
app state beat michigan one 1 out of 100 times. It happens overall talent level will show up in the end we wont be able to hang without top ten classes year in year out enough said. fla. class is sick bamas is getting stronger and stronger. We will be able to play them tough but overall if you dont have the talent that you won't catch up to the big boys.
 
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bornbleddinorange said:
app state beat michigan one 1 out of 100 times. It happens overall talent level will show up in the end we wont be able to hang without top ten classes year in year out enough said. fla. class is sick bamas is getting stronger and stronger. We will be able to play them tough but overall if you dont have the talent that you won't catch up to the big boys.
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You obviously don't bleed orange got to have faith in the coaches. Yeah Florida does have a good class but I remember under Phil we had top classes and got mediocre players cause not coached up.
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utdw331 said:
You obviously don't bleed orange got to have faith in the coaches. Yeah Florida does have a good class but I remember under Phil we had top classes and got mediocre players cause not coached up.
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But Florida and Bama have top classes AND good coaches, especially Bama...so to compete with them, we need both...

I'm not saying that Dooley needs to put together a top 5 class in two weeks to avoid being a failure, but over the next couple of years we definitely need to be up there...
 
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