New Bruce Pearl?

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HoundDog4954 said:
Lighten up ,Emain, life is too short. Because a team doesn't make the final four does that mean a fan can't enjoy watching them play? You've been listening to that brain dead bunch at KY and Memphis too long.

I can hear them now, "we have umpteen championships and Pearl has never been past the sweet sixteen". Well, if Pearl is such a bad coach then why is KY on their third coach because they want a coach like Bruce. Screw them, have a little fun dude.
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Are you seriously telling me that Kentucky fans want Pearl over Calipari?
 
#27
#27
HoundDog4954 said:
Lighten up ,Emain, life is too short. Because a team doesn't make the final four does that mean a fan can't enjoy watching them play? You've been listening to that brain dead bunch at KY and Memphis too long.

I can hear them now, "we have umpteen championships and Pearl has never been past the sweet sixteen". Well, if Pearl is such a bad coach then why is KY on their third coach because they want a coach like Bruce. Screw them, have a little fun dude.
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Good to see the Pearlophiles are finally admitting it's all about bodypaint and wannabe Globetrotter basketball. I had begun to worry that they were actually clueless enough to believe Pearl's style could actually win something that matters.
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#28
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hatvol96 said:
He's not up anything on me. I've said his trash, play to the idiot know nothing casual fan style will never win anything of importance. The score on that is 4-0 in my favor. Now, run on back to your Pearlophile friends at Hoopsville and babble about how "this is the year." You'll be much more comfortable there.
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Does this mean you lower yourself to peeping on Hoopsville. I'm thrilled to know you honor us with your presence, even if it is undercover.

Seriously, it's sad that here it is 3 days before the first game and there are fans who are so mad about basketball they seem ready to explode. You know, if it upsets you so much maybe you should get a different hobby. I feel sorry for you , Hat.
 
#29
#29
i agree our half court d has been terrible, but pearl was 2 points away from being in the elite 8..with that being said i think his style will not work without good guard play. when lofton and smith were here we won because they could defend and score.. his inability to recruit a premier guard is killing this team and its style of play..
 
#30
#30
HoundDog4954 said:
Does this mean you lower yourself to peeping on Hoopsville. I'm thrilled to know you honor us with your presence, even if it is undercover.
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No, it means I was having a discussion about how awful the influx of Pearlophiles around here is with another poster and he mentioned that he recognized many of the screen names from the days before he cancelled his Rocky Top News subscription.
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#31
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emainvol said:
Are you seriously telling me that Kentucky fans want Pearl over Calipari?
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I'm telling you that the last two times they have been in the search process, the attributes that the fans have listed as what they want is Pearl. They would never come out and say it but it's him. Up tempo game, globe trotter play, all the stuff Hat said. Of course they, along with the Memphis crew hate him and call him names, but deep down both fan bases want a coach like Pearl. Heck, Cal doesn't play any more D than Bruce does. I guess KY is doomed to never making the final 4 then. That's too bad.
 
#32
#32
HoundDog4954 said:
Heck, Cal doesn't play any more D than Bruce does.
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Of all the utterly moronic statements posted in support of Pearl, this one wins the prize. Memphis was arguably the best halfcourt defensive team in the country in '07-'08. Cal built it his reputation on defense at UMASS. If you don't know what you're talking about, it's best to just say nothing. Otherwise, you make your side of the debate look even worse than it normally does.
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#33
#33
Oh now it comes out, you're a Cal lover huh? You know if defense were so important no one would ever beat the 1st bald Kevin.
 
#34
#34
HoundDog4954 said:
Oh now it comes out, you're a Cal lover huh? You know if defense were so important no one would ever beat the 1st bald Kevin.
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If bodypaint and freelance basketball were so effective, Tom Davis would have a bunch of national titles and Bruce Pearl wouldn't have spent a bunch of years at Southern Indiana.
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#35
#35
hatvol96 said:
Of all the utterly moronic statements posted in support of Pearl, this one wins the prize. Memphis was arguably the best halfcourt defensive team in the country in '07-'08. Cal built it his reputation on defense at UMASS. If you don't know what you're talking about, it's best to just say nothing. Otherwise, you make your side of the debate look even worse than it normally does.
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I honestly felt like their halfcourt defense was even better last year than in '07-'08. They were by far the best defensive team that I saw in person all last year. The '07-'08 team had a lot more fire power offensively and played at a higher pace but imo probably wasn't as proficient defensively as last year's team. However, your point stands. Pearl's half court defense has never approached the level of Cal's; he was been able to make up for it head to head by exploiting Memphis' lack of a three point threat. Hopefully, he can do that against Cal at UK as well.
 
#36
#36
hat do you agree or disagree that Pearl is the best coach the men's team has had in quite along time? i personally think he is. i do think he might not be the coach to bring us national championships with his style of play. but i do think he has done a great job of gettin Tennessee at least on the map and made it a more desirable job for when they go after the next big hire..what are your thoughts?
 
#37
#37
hatvol96 said:
Of all the utterly moronic statements posted in support of Pearl, this one wins the prize. Memphis was arguably the best halfcourt defensive team in the country in '07-'08. Cal built it his reputation on defense at UMASS. If you don't know what you're talking about, it's best to just say nothing. Otherwise, you make your side of the debate look even worse than it normally does.
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It does rival the silliness about player development being a strong suit.
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#38
#38
One last thing for those who don't know. I don't love Bruce, in fact I agree with Hat about Bruce coaching in Israel, but I do love UT and the Vols and I don't really care who the coach is as long as they are playing hard. They don't have to win every game, just play hard and never give up and I'm good. Pearl was the Kiffen before Kiffen. He got the guys to play a scrappy, never say die type of ball and he stepped on a lot of toes.

I don't agree with some of Bruce's life style choices but it's his life. He has brought an excitement to the basketVols that hasn't been there in a long time. He isn't perfect and you guys who don't like him have the right, but man you are missing some fun to watch basketball.
 
#39
#39
Vols420 said:
hat do you agree or disagree that Pearl is the best coach the men's team has had in quite along time? i personally think he is. i do think he might not be the coach to bring us national championships with his style of play. but i do think he has done a great job of gettin Tennessee at least on the map and made it a more desirable job for when they go after the next big hire..what are your thoughts?
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Is he better than the Petersons and Greens of the world? Sure. Has he elevated the profile of the program? Absolutely. Am I somewhat happy UT is paying him what they are? Yes, because it sets the precedent and makes it easier to pay his replacement the going rate.
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#40
#40
HoundDog4954 said:
One last thing for those who don't know. I don't love Bruce, in fact I agree with Hat about Bruce coaching in Israel, but I do love UT and the Vols and I don't really care who the coach is as long as they are playing hard. They don't have to win every game, just play hard and never give up and I'm good. Pearl was the Kiffen before Kiffen. He got the guys to play a scrappy, never say die type of ball and he stepped on a lot of toes.

I don't agree with some of Bruce's life style choices but it's his life. He has brought an excitement to the basketVols that hasn't been there in a long time. He isn't perfect and you guys who don't like him have the right, but man you are missing some fun to watch basketball.
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Generally agree, save the never say die bit, KiffEn reference and silliness about people missing fin to watch. We all watch every game. Some of us just happen to like organization and execution.
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#41
#41
hatvol96 said:
Is he better than the Petersons and Greens of the world? Sure. Has he elevated the profile of the program? Absolutely. Am I somewhat happy UT is paying him what they are? Yes, because it sets the precedent and makes it easier to pay his replacement the going rate.
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i tend to agree with most of what you say with pearl. i dont think he will win us championships. i do think he has done well for the program. but arent we playing for championships? and we arent winning championships why pay the big bucks
 
#43
#43
HoundDog4954 said:
I'm telling you that the last two times they have been in the search process, the attributes that the fans have listed as what they want is Pearl. They would never come out and say it but it's him. Up tempo game, globe trotter play, all the stuff Hat said. Of course they, along with the Memphis crew hate him and call him names, but deep down both fan bases want a coach like Pearl. Heck, Cal doesn't play any more D than Bruce does. I guess KY is doomed to never making the final 4 then. That's too bad.
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This man is precocious, I tell you. Borderline revolutionary.
 
#44
#44
Shaun1985 said:
I really think Scotty will be a lot better this year. To be a young kid coming in with that much hype, I don't think he dealt with it good. The whole 1 and done thing really screwed with this kid Now the pressure has lifted some, he has a year under his belt, and he is very, very talented. I see this kid lighting it up this year. Also, I do think JP improves his defense. People forget how high this kid stock was when he first came. He has something real nice but he's too darn skinny! If he had more upper body strength, his shots wouldn't be so altered when he attacks the rim. I sure hope he hit the weights in the off season.
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My image of Scotty Hopson last year was literally seeing him melt playing Uk twice. I think he can put up 20 on some nights, but he'll disappear in big games.
 
#45
#45
allvol21 said:
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I realize that a forum is an opportunity to express opinions. That being said a post full of negative assumptions with no backbone of meaningful evidence is a waste of space IMO.

6) I will agree to go as far and say Scotty Hopson was not as aggressive or consistent as you would want a McDonald's all-American to be and that is a direct reflection of mental toughness but unless you are his sports psychologist I don't think you are in a fair position to state what his potential is mentally.

7) This team was not effective or even mediocre in half court d, but once again I don't see how anyone besides this staff can speak for the mentality of how this team is responding to extending back to the full court pressure. I would think that veterans in this program will be excited to go back to up tempo basketball and that is based on what I saw 2 years ago.

8) with 7 upper class-men that will be contributing to this team. and 3 more players with a year of experience under their belts in the SEC any statement regarding the potential of this team would be a complete gut feeling at this point, and would be unfair.
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My evidence is from last year. Hopson melted in big games, this team refused to play D last year, and I believe after seeing last year they are a 25 win team, especially because we do not have a decent PG on this team
 
#47
#47
yoranguavol2 said:
No, Just don't understand the pessimism! Since Pearl has been here we have had one "marginal" season (last year) and rest have been great. I don't understand the disdain for a man who has won so many games in such a short period of time. It's not like the last four years have been typical of UT basketball the last 30 years. Face it, rarely has this program had the success we have had under Bruce Pearl. Like many others, I had great expectations for last season (in hindsight they were unrealistic considering the number of new faces on the team and the losses off the past team), but those expectations were created because of the success of Bruce Pearl. Quite frankly, this "hate" (and no I don't think it is unfair to characterize it that way) that I read on this board concerning Pearl is not only unfounded, but irrational. I can't help to think that there is more to this story for some of these ardent Pearl haters. Is it because he is Jewish? I don't know and I don't get it! I don't expect to change your mind or anyone else on here... it is obvious that many on here are quite invested in tearing down Bruce Pearl and no amount of wins or championships will change that opinion. In fact I'm sure the same people who blast me everytime I post something pro-Pearl will do it again. The sad fact of the matter is that you Peal haters are a VERY vocal and VERY minority of UT fans. While I would never say that someone does not have a right to his/her opinion, if you hate BP and the state of the program so much, than do us and yourself a favor and just quit following the team. It's not worth all the drama. God bless.:peace2:
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every Vol fan, including hat, would want Bruce to win national titles here. But fans who are not blind knows that's not possible because:

1) We will not teach good defense.

2) His offense is too inconsistent. You can't win a title shooting 30's three a game.

3) His recruits have either flammed out, been kicked out, or have not lived up to potential.

4) Some people think that his agenda is not winning national titles, but making it about him. I don't believe that, but I could see the point after the Maccibiah games.

I don't think he should be fired, but I think he needs a big year to make up for last year.

And just because I think a coach is overrated, or not as good as people make him out to be, doesn't make me less of a fan. That's the dumbest post you can make. Just because I'm expressing opinions doesn't make me less of a Vol fan.
 
#48
#48
zjcvols said:
My evidence is from last year. Hopson melted in big games, this team refused to play D last year, and I believe after seeing last year they are a 25 win team, especially because we do not have a decent PG on this team
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When Pearl was "winning" everyone was for him, now that he had one "down" year,... Seriously, if that is his down year, then look out, here we come!

I will take some of what Hat says for now. We did have a slightly "disappointing" year last year. We didn't have that same intensity. If the slide continues this year, then I will have to hand it to Hat, maybe he knew what the rest of us didn't, but let's just wait and see. I am an optimist, but I do believe this year will "put us over the top."

Pearl's style is controlled chaos. Get used to it. And, yes I do believe with talented AND determined players we can win a national title by 30 points!

This year will likely prove one of us wrong. It will be exciting (at least to me) to see how it unfolds. The Texas game in his first year made a believer out of me, and it will take more than one "down" season to change my mind.:hi:
 
#49
#49
i2amavol said:
When Pearl was "winning" everyone was for him, now that he had one "down" year,... Seriously, if that is his down year, then look out, here we come!

I will take some of what Hat says for now. We did have a slightly "disappointing" year last year. We didn't have that same intensity. If the slide continues this year, then I will have to hand it to Hat, maybe he knew what the rest of us didn't, but let's just wait and see. I am an optimist, but I do believe this year will "put us over the top."

Pearl's style is controlled chaos. Get used to it. And, yes I do believe with talented AND determined players we can win a national title by 30 points!

This year will likely prove one of us wrong. It will be exciting (at least to me) to see how it unfolds. The Texas game in his first year made a believer out of me, and it will take more than one "down" season to change my mind.:hi:
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I'm still for Bruce, but he has his issues as a coach. He needs to step up next year.

You can have controlled chaos and teach your team D, which Pearl didn't do eitehr last year. Bad combo.

I'll agree, we will see how good of a coach Bruce really is this year.
 
#50
#50
zjcvols said:
I'm still for Bruce, but he has his issues as a coach. He needs to step up next year.

You can have controlled chaos and teach your team D, which Pearl didn't do eitehr last year. Bad combo.

I'll agree, we will see how good of a coach Bruce really is this year.
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According to Wikipedia:

Season Coach Overall Conference Standing Postseason
UW–Milwaukee (Horizon League) (2001–2005)
2001–02 UW–Milwaukee 16-13 11-5 3rd
2002–03 UW–Milwaukee 24-8 13-3 2nd NCAA 1st Round
2003–04 UW–Milwaukee 20-11 13-3 1st NIT 1st Round
2004–05 UW–Milwaukee 26-6 14-2 1st NCAA Sweet Sixteen
UW–Milwaukee: 86-38 51-13
Tennessee (Southeastern Conference) (2005–Present)
2005-06 Tennessee 22-8 12-4 1 - East NCAA 2nd Round
2006-07 Tennessee 24-11 10-6 2 - East NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2007-08 Tennessee 31-5 14-2 1 - East NCAASweet Sixteen , Conference Regular Season
2008-09 Tennessee 21-13 10-6 T 1 - East NCAA 1st Round
Tennessee: 98-37 46-18
Total: 184-75

Last year was his worst year, with 5 contributing newcomers. We won 21 games! Now, what exactly are his major coaching issues? Yeah, you may be able to point out a weakness, but 21-13 is not a bad year at Tennessee. It has been my experience that almost all freshmen-laden teams "under-perform." Again, if this year is not an improvement, I guess I'll have to agree with you at least to some extent, but I am not holding my breath.
 
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