New “faking injury” rule.

#26
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Visidog said:
You have to balance treating legitimate injuries and preventing faking. Holding a player out penalizes the player; this rule tries to penalize the team.

The thought is that a player who is really hurt will stay down or go down quickly based on the previous play. It’s hard for a defense to get in a “fake the injury” call before the ball is set. This rule encourages player safety, too. If someone thinks they’re hurt, they have to stay down—if you try to fight through it, you may cost your team a timeout if you go down later.

The rule is targeted at the worst flops: the Kiffin flop, the Bama nonsense from last year’s game, etc. Penalize the team for a coach’s call. Sure, a player or team might still fake injuries to buy time, but they have to do it immediately and the worst fakes will be eliminated.

Keeping a player out for a series puts too much on a player. Imagine Mike Matthews getting his wind knocked out on an end-of-game drive with no time outs remaining and needing a TD to score? Do you think he has to come off for the whole series? It’s a real injury but a quick recovery. Or imagine a QB whose head hits the ground in the same situation. He has to be evaluated for a concussion, even if he plainly does not have one—evaluation takes less than a minute in most cases. Should the drive depend on the backup now?
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I see your point. I misunderstood the rule of only calling a penalty after the ball is set, which makes more sense. I initially read it as they're calling timeout or penalty every time. That's what I get for multitasking at work.
 
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#28
5 yards penalty not going make difference

10 or 15 yard would been penalty to slow it down

5 yard smack on rest to a 220 pounder
 
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Franklin_Vol09 said:
If a player goes down with an injury after the ball is spotted then the team will be charged a time out. If there is no timeouts left then a 5 yard delay of gain penalty is assessed
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So you will see players falling down as the ref walks up to the LOS.


Nothing solved. feckless NCAA strikes again.
 
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VolDave53 said:
I can see this being used on a last second field goal when you have not TOs left and need a few yards to improve the angle of the kick. Can the defending team decline?
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The defending team is the one faking injuries almost 100% of the time it hapoens.
 
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I'm not sure how this will work.

Damar Hamlin stood up, looked fine, then almost died on the field. It was pretty quick but there's no guarantee a severe injury looks like it immediately.

There are documented times when big uglies have had broken major bones and not realized it for a couple of plays.

I'd like to see some way of restoring the timeout if it's shown the guy really needed help and tried to play through a serious situation and dropped late.
 
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Make it similar to the ignorant targeting rule. Say, 15 yds, loss of down and out for a game. Because it's intentional and involves coaches (think illegal play) you have to make it very costly to the team.

Another option could be to take the offending player and say his position coach, line them up against the stadium wall and shoot them.. Most likely that ends it for good. Worst case, it's broken only once, then never again.




For anyone unsure, that last part was a joke......
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I still would've preferred that the player has to come out for the series. But this is better than nothing, I guess.
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I agree. Just heard a take on why they didn't go thst route. Coaches were afraid that an injured player may make ig worse by playing through an injury so they don't have to miss the remainder of the drive.

I say they miss the remainder of the series, or until a timeout is called. They'll just figure out a way to go down quicker before the ball is spotted now.
 
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#43
This rule seems like it could have had way more teeth in it. It's been a long time since the mustard bottle missed it's target, and it's only now that something finally has been done. What I'm hearing loud and clear - Flop early, and nothing has changed. The teeth I would have put in it would be this: "Everyone is concerned with player safety, so this (obviously) injured player needs to sit out a whole half, otherwise he might REALLY get hurt. That would stop it. Sort of like a penalty box in hockey - His injury occurs with 3:55 remaining in the first half, he's eligible to come back in 3:55 2nd half. Injuries in second half, see ya next game. Only on injuries where you have the same freedom as a timeout, i.e. trainers and coaches on the field coaching and training. I would say, more teeth - players need to stay on the field while the injury is being attended to, and the coaches need to stay on the sideline. This keeps it from being an additional time out. Stop play, get the dude to the bench, start play. With Kiffin, it was like he got 10 extra time outs per game.
 
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Seems like this will help teams more that line up quickly. Some players are legit hurt but don't want to come out and then realize after about 10 seconds that they can't run. Too late if the ball has been spotted.
 
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onevol74 said:
I think it would be much more effective to limit all TV timeouts to 2 minutes. That is where the real problem is.
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Yeah but the idiots wanted the game shortened. Running clock.... blah blah blah.... Anyone with ANY common sense knew what would happen.


Less football, more commercials. Buncha ****ing morons.
 
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