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GT's cut blocks causes injuries and here are the facts... the injury rate on cut blocking is 31.25% more than non-cut blocking. 27 P5 athletes have knee injuries from 2014 to 2016 due to cut blocking. GT is responsible for 16 of those injuries. In fact, GT has injured 2 of their own defensive players in spring practice due to cut blocking. This data is being used to try and ban cut blocking. Butch should complain, like Stoops, to the referees before the game. #KneesMatter #StopTheKneeHate #WhinersArePeopleToo

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Great thread guys. I pop in here every so often after meeting some really nice UT fans at a GT game in 2009, couple of old guys who wanted to see option football again for nostalgia purposes. I've been excited about playing you folks for a long time. Y'all had a great year last year. Loved that UGA ending.



Lot of talk about cut blocking. Don't worry about it. A cut block is just a no-armed tackle. It's not "shameful" and every team does it, just not as much as we do. Zone blocking schemes do it, all RBs do it in pass pro, and every team does it on screens and slants to create passing lanes.

The dangerous thing is high-lowing on a chop block, and while we do get called for one about every other game, we spend a lot of time training to avoid it. In terms of illegality, it's only illegal during crackback blocks against the run of play. Other than that, it's legal. Looking at the Kentucky game last year, all the UK injuries were from getting pancaked the old fashioned way, or by getting rolled up on after the play. There weren't any cut block injuries.

In my experience watching this thing very closely over the years, the only time players get really injured is when the defensive line tries to hold a GT OL who's shooting to the next level. When they do that (which is illegal but not often called) then they get spun around and clipped. Some coaches (Bud Foster) try this sometimes to try and "draw" the chop block call while keeping their LBs clean to make the tackle, but it's a really crappy thing to tell your players to do because it puts them in a dangerous situation, and per the rules it's a defensive foul not an offensive one.

I'm happy to answer more questions on this if yall have any.



Since Paul Johnson was hired (2008), GT has played in 4 ACC Championship Games, and won 1. GT appears in the ACCCG 33% of the time. GT is 1 and 1 in BCS bowl appearances over this time, with their win coming against a highly ranked SEC opponent with a future NFL QB.

GT went 3-0 last year against the SEC East, with very comparable results to Tennessee against Georgia and Kentucky, and a significantly better result against Vandy. The VT matchup also played similarly for both teams.

The scheduling problems for GT and UT are also very similar. You guys play Bama every year cross-division, and we're stuck playing Clemson cross-division. So there's a lot of interesting parallels between our teams.



Also 5-1 over the last three years, with the only loss being a close one to Georgia capping GT's worst year this century.



There's a lot to this in my opinion, having watched GT for a very long time, and it's not just about 3O prep. The 3O is very timing oriented, and GT tends to fall out of rhythm after long stretches without a game. Our opening games sometimes turn into a turnover s***show. This is your biggest advantage IMO - without the rhythm down we'll pitch the ball onto the dirt or goof an exchange or a mesh read. Turnover battle will win the game IMO.



This is basically true, but it's not because we're a bad team. It's because of how we're covered in the press. We get no respect, and the respect we do get is because of our coach/system, so every game in the media becomes this kind of referendum on coaching instead of on the players. We don't land a lot of five star recruits due to academics, but our receivers and linemen in particular do very well in the NFL.



I would argue that 2014 GT was noticeably better than 2014 Oklahoma, but you might be right about the other three.



This is not true. Our WRs do cut corners and safeties sometimes, but rules prevent them from cutting on crackbacks against the LBs if the LBs start in the tackle box. A lot of times our WRs don't cut corners because there's no advantage to it. Cuts put the offensive player on the ground too, and if the play is slow to get to the edge then the D player can stand back up. Also, our WRs tend to be big, so they often have an advantage against smaller bodies.



Actually, we did run 3O in 1990 as a smaller piece of our playbook. Sean Jones was a beast carrying the ball, and Ralph Freidgen was the play caller. We ran it a little bit from 98-2000 as well. Fridge's offense wasn't completely built around it like Johnson's is though.

In terms of players lost and players returning, the roster is similar to UT's. GT and UT both lost impressive, dynamic QBs, and both return a lot of important pieces.

On paper this looks to be a very good game. I'm excited about it. Especially since it will be the very first football game ever played in the new Falcons stadium. That thing looks cool.

Thanks for all the info. I have a lot of respect for Georgia Tech. Always root for the Yellow Jackets against everybody, especially Georgia, except when they play the Vols.

That Kenny Anderson, Brian Oliver and Dennis Scott basketball team that made the Final 4, was one of my favorites. I saw them put it on Shaq and LSU at TBA to make the Sweet 16 in the early 90s.

Should be a great game on Labor Day. I think UT wins, but I am a homer. After, the UT game hope u all win them all.

Btw, the SEC should have brought u all back home instead of Missouri, imo
 
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No it was GT sticking up for kids against what Bama and Bear where doing. Tech was a top team in the conference at the time. Go look up Bobby Dodd and you might learn something.

Thanks for the info.

I always knew there was something dirty about Bryant.

I did learn a lot. I was aware of Bobby Dodd but completely uninformed.
 
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Did our AD schedule this or did we agree to play the game and GT was also picked?

Chick-Fil-A arranged the game. I'm not sure who was invited first.

If we want to talk scheduling, I'll go back and agree with the OP, from both your angle and our angle. P5 teams don't do themselves any favors scheduling us, because you have to devote off-season and spring drills installing different defensive schemes. Further, we're more likely to drop a game due to random screwups early, so it's advantageous for us to schedule easy at the beginning, even moreso than an 'ordinary' team, because our offense is so esoteric.

If it weren't for the Monday night prime time exposure, and being the first game in the new Falcons stadium, I wouldn't want GT to play UT beginning of the year either. I like having a wall of patsies to open up so we can get our timing down on the mesh read and get the pitch relationships right. Thankfully I think we'll be okay in this department because our QB has some experience, and we return all our starting backs.

All that said, I'm really excited about the game.
 
Chick-Fil-A arranged the game. I'm not sure who was invited first.

If we want to talk scheduling, I'll go back and agree with the OP, from both your angle and our angle. P5 teams don't do themselves any favors scheduling us, because you have to devote off-season and spring drills installing different defensive schemes. Further, we're more likely to drop a game due to random screwups early, so it's advantageous for us to schedule easy at the beginning, even moreso than an 'ordinary' team, because our offense is so esoteric.

If it weren't for the Monday night prime time exposure, and being the first game in the new Falcons stadium, I wouldn't want GT to play UT beginning of the year either. I like having a wall of patsies to open up so we can get our timing down on the mesh read and get the pitch relationships right. Thankfully I think we'll be okay in this department because our QB has some experience, and we return all our starting backs.

All that said, I'm really excited about the game.

How do other ACC teams prepare for you every season? Clemson seems to have it figured out.
 
How do other ACC teams prepare for you every season? Clemson seems to have it figured out.

That's correct. The key is recruiting all 4 and 5 star beasts on the DL and in the LB corp. If UT can blow up the line of scrimmage the way clemson has been doing, it will undoubtedly be a very long night for our offense.
 
That's correct. The key is recruiting all 4 and 5 star beasts on the DL and in the LB corp. If UT can blow up the line of scrimmage the way clemson has been doing, it will undoubtedly be a very long night for our offense.

Or we could limit our 4 and 5 star beasts minutes against your OL hatchets and do whatever Duke & UNC does to give you fits every year...they seem to win a lot of your meetings. :dunno:
 
Or we could limit our 4 and 5 star beasts minutes against your OL hatchets and do whatever Duke & UNC does to give you fits every year...they seem to win a lot of your meetings. :dunno:

There is more than one way to contain this offense. What he is saying is true. Clemson has the jimmies and Joe's to play back and shed blocks and give them fits. I don't think we do. The ut defense may prove me wrong. Maybe kongbo and Tuttle and Kirkland, or whoever, will whip their man consistently and we can play back in a 3 deep shell, no blitzing needed. I hope this is the case because I'd rather be able to out talent a team than to try the percentages of out scheming a team
 
Also, I need to go back and watch the Clemson game. I'm taking the tech fans word that Clemson whipped them one on one up front. Clemson may have actually played a lot of 0 deep, taking away all the gaps, and leaving cb's safeties and lbs one on one, daring tech to throw it. In this case, the credit should go to Clemson's pass coverage for containing the pass with no help thus allowing the defense to play 9in the box covering all the gaps. They may have also used a lot of disguised blitz scheme's that tech ran right into.
 
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Also, I need to go back and watch the Clemson game. I'm taking the tech fans word that Clemson whipped them one on one up front. Clemson may have actually played a lot of 0 deep, taking away all the gaps, and leaving cb's safeties and lbs one on one, daring tech to throw it. They may have also used a lot of disguised blitz scheme's that tech ran right into.

If you blitz that offense, you are extremely vulnerable to big plays! It's best to play assignment football and flow to the football.
 
If you blitz that offense, you are extremely vulnerable to big plays! It's best to play assignment football and flow to the football.

Yes sir, I agree! I stated that much earlier in this thread. I'm of the opinion that we don't have the talent or discipline on defense to do this. We shall see
 
There is more than one way to contain this offense. What he is saying is true. Clemson has the jimmies and Joe's to play back and shed blocks and give them fits. I don't think we do. The ut defense may prove me wrong. Maybe kongbo and Tuttle and Kirkland, or whoever, will whip their man consistently and we can play back in a 3 deep shell, no blitzing needed. I hope this is the case because I'd rather be able to out talent a team than to try the percentages of out scheming a team

Just saying two teams without 4 and 5* "jimmies and joes" have regular success against them...and then play everybody else not sporting that scheme. I like those "percentages" a lot. :)
 
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Just saying two teams without 4 and 5* "jimmies and joes" have regular success against them...and then play everybody else not sporting that scheme. I like those "percentages" a lot. :)


Never said that there weren't other ways to defend the option. Just responding that clemson has just whipped us up front the past 2 years. The question was about clemson right?

* Here's the blueprint.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I_jV_G2EAgg
 
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Clemson was really effing good last year. Their DC is awesome too. They may have the best coordinator combo in the country.

As far as their scheme went, it's basically "don't get blocked."
 
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How do other ACC teams prepare for you every season? Clemson seems to have it figured out.

Our regular opponents spend 1 week in spring camp on us, typically. It's also very common that tobacco road schools were working under the table to get a bye before us. It was so bad, and so obvious, that they got caught and just recently changed the conference scheduling rules. UNC was the biggest culprit.

Some ACC teams have started scheduling Navy or Army as a warmup.
 
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