NEVER schedule GA Tech

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If we win, we'll be gently informed how insignificant the win is and how terrible Georgia Tech is as a program. If we lose, there will be a million threads pointing out how the loss proves Butch needs to be fired immediately...because Georgia Tech is a terrible program. :) Sorry GT fans, your fate is sealed either way. :hi:

The worst thing about playing a terrible team is the possibility of injury. 1 game doesn't make or break a season. Injuries can impact many games not just the one they occur in.

I agree with both sides about Ga Tech. Win it means nothing lose it's proof. It's part of the territory of scheduling inferior opponents, the loss would always be a bad one(How could it not be since it would be to a bad team?)and out weights any type of good fortune due to it being a gimmie game.

I expect to beat all the bad teams on our schedule.

Go Vols!
 
Go on Youtube and checkout some of their games. Their whole blocking scheme is cut blocks. Every single block they launch themselves into the legs of the defender, even at the 2nd level. During their bowl game against Kentucky, they took out 2 defensive player sand Stoops got into with Johnson over it. It's dangerous for players and should be against the rules.

Once again, they cut no more than a zone team.
 
This is a gross oversimplification, but only OL and stationary backs behind the OL within the tackle box are allowed to cut block, and the block must be made between the 10 and 2 position facing the opponent. IOW, no cut blocking from the side. There is other verbage regarding whether the ball has past the line of scrimmage, but that is the basic gist of it.

Thanks! So the Georgia cut on Tuttle should have been flagged for sure? As I recall, it was not within the 10 &2. Wasn't it more like at 8 or 9? Also, is their any stipulation regarding where the cut takes place in relation to where the ball is? For example, if the ball is outside the numbers, etc?
 
GT *typically* loses bowl games and to teams who have had a BYE week.

It's unusual, but easier to beat them than most other teams if you have extra time to prepare.



Not worried about this game in the least.
 
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Thanks! So the Georgia cut on Tuttle should have been flagged for sure? As I recall, it was not within the 10 &2. Wasn't it more like at 8 or 9? Also, is their any stipulation regarding where the cut takes place in relation to where the ball is? For example, if the ball is outside the numbers, etc?

Here are the latest NCAA cut block rules as of 2016 per the NCAA Football Rules Committee.

9. Blocking Below the Waist (Rule 9-1-6) FR-89
Changes to paragraph a: (New language is in bold italics)
“a. Team A prior to a change of team possession:

1. The following Team A players may legally block below the waist inside the tackle
box until they leave the tackle box
or until the ball has left the tackle box: (a) players on
the line of scrimmage completely inside the tackle box and (b) stationary backs who are
at least partially inside the tackle box and at least partially inside the frame of the body of
the second lineman from the snapper

2. Except as in paragraph 3 (below), players not covered in paragraph 1 (above) while
the ball is still in the tackle box, and all players after the ball has left the tackle box, are
allowed to block below the waist only if the force of the initial contact is directed from
the front. “From the front” is understood to mean within the clock-face region between
“10 o’clock and 2 o’clock” forward of the player being blocked.

3. Players not covered in paragraph 1 (above) may not block below the waist toward the
line through the original position of the ball at the snap until the ball carrier is clearly
beyond the neutral zone.


4. Once the ball has left the tackle box a player may not block below the waist toward
his own end line.”


Hope this helps.
 
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GT *typically* loses bowl games and to teams who have had a BYE week.

It's unusual, but easier to beat them than most other teams if you have extra time to prepare.



Not worried about this game in the least.

Except last year when they won their bowl game
 
Great thread guys. I pop in here every so often after meeting some really nice UT fans at a GT game in 2009, couple of old guys who wanted to see option football again for nostalgia purposes. I've been excited about playing you folks for a long time. Y'all had a great year last year. Loved that UGA ending.

Can someone define what a legal cut block is and at what point does it become illegal? I know the chop block part of it.

Lot of talk about cut blocking. Don't worry about it. A cut block is just a no-armed tackle. It's not "shameful" and every team does it, just not as much as we do. Zone blocking schemes do it, all RBs do it in pass pro, and every team does it on screens and slants to create passing lanes.

The dangerous thing is high-lowing on a chop block, and while we do get called for one about every other game, we spend a lot of time training to avoid it. In terms of illegality, it's only illegal during crackback blocks against the run of play. Other than that, it's legal. Looking at the Kentucky game last year, all the UK injuries were from getting pancaked the old fashioned way, or by getting rolled up on after the play. There weren't any cut block injuries.

In my experience watching this thing very closely over the years, the only time players get really injured is when the defensive line tries to hold a GT OL who's shooting to the next level. When they do that (which is illegal but not often called) then they get spun around and clipped. Some coaches (Bud Foster) try this sometimes to try and "draw" the chop block call while keeping their LBs clean to make the tackle, but it's a really crappy thing to tell your players to do because it puts them in a dangerous situation, and per the rules it's a defensive foul not an offensive one.

I'm happy to answer more questions on this if yall have any.

A valid point? Come on bro. They play in the ACC and have never managed to come close to winning it.

Since Paul Johnson was hired (2008), GT has played in 4 ACC Championship Games, and won 1. GT appears in the ACCCG 33% of the time. GT is 1 and 1 in BCS bowl appearances over this time, with their win coming against a highly ranked SEC opponent with a future NFL QB.

GT went 3-0 last year against the SEC East, with very comparable results to Tennessee against Georgia and Kentucky, and a significantly better result against Vandy. The VT matchup also played similarly for both teams.

The scheduling problems for GT and UT are also very similar. You guys play Bama every year cross-division, and we're stuck playing Clemson cross-division. So there's a lot of interesting parallels between our teams.

Supreme, My man. GT has is 3-0 against its last 3 sec opponents.

Also 5-1 over the last three years, with the only loss being a close one to Georgia capping GT's worst year this century.

But if you do schedule GA Tech, schedule them in your first game. At least we have time to prep.

There's a lot to this in my opinion, having watched GT for a very long time, and it's not just about 3O prep. The 3O is very timing oriented, and GT tends to fall out of rhythm after long stretches without a game. Our opening games sometimes turn into a turnover s***show. This is your biggest advantage IMO - without the rhythm down we'll pitch the ball onto the dirt or goof an exchange or a mesh read. Turnover battle will win the game IMO.

We shouldn't be scared of anyone. However, there is nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing this game. If we win, no big deal because it was only Ga Tech. If we lose, oh $hit we just lost to Ga Tech!

This is basically true, but it's not because we're a bad team. It's because of how we're covered in the press. We get no respect, and the respect we do get is because of our coach/system, so every game in the media becomes this kind of referendum on coaching instead of on the players. We don't land a lot of five star recruits due to academics, but our receivers and linemen in particular do very well in the NFL.

A little too much drama in the op. Not an ideal 1st game but hell, here's our last 4 years of tough non-conference games...

2016 vs VT @ Bristol (W) 45-24
2015 vs Oklahoma (L) 24-31 2 OT
2014 @ Oklahoma (L) 10-34
2013 @ Oregon (L) 14-59

This will probably be a tough game but there's a good argument that all 4 above were tougher.

I would argue that 2014 GT was noticeably better than 2014 Oklahoma, but you might be right about the other three.

This is not true. WR's do not cut block.

This is not true. Our WRs do cut corners and safeties sometimes, but rules prevent them from cutting on crackbacks against the LBs if the LBs start in the tackle box. A lot of times our WRs don't cut corners because there's no advantage to it. Cuts put the offensive player on the ground too, and if the play is slow to get to the edge then the D player can stand back up. Also, our WRs tend to be big, so they often have an advantage against smaller bodies.

Bobby Ross wasn't running the triple option at GT in 1990.

Actually, we did run 3O in 1990 as a smaller piece of our playbook. Sean Jones was a beast carrying the ball, and Ralph Freidgen was the play caller. We ran it a little bit from 98-2000 as well. Fridge's offense wasn't completely built around it like Johnson's is though.

In terms of players lost and players returning, the roster is similar to UT's. GT and UT both lost impressive, dynamic QBs, and both return a lot of important pieces.

On paper this looks to be a very good game. I'm excited about it. Especially since it will be the very first football game ever played in the new Falcons stadium. That thing looks cool.
 
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Appy State- had to go to OT to win
Ohio- only won by 9
Lost to SC
Lost to Vandy

Georgia Tech is better than the first 2 and about equal to the last 2

All that with a team picked to win the east and darkhorse for the NC

Some vol fans need to wake up and realize the reality of our situation

About equal to Vandy? Look up the GT Vandy score from last year. UT will beat Tech but Tech is better than Vandy. With where UT was at by end of last year however, Tech would've beat them if playing in November of 16. UT wins Sept 4
 
Great and very well informed post. Thank you for your contribution.

On the topic of wr cut blocks, most all teams cut on screen plays like bubble. And like you said, most teams don't cut with WRs on a run play because the ball takes too long to get to the edge

Thanks again
 
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That's the spirit!

I've noticed the more trash a team talks the more they are worried about the game.

I'm sure y'all will compete in the ACC, but never should have tuck tail and run if you want respect.

Wasn't it Vandy that ran y'all out of the SEC?

No it was GT sticking up for kids against what Bama and Bear where doing. Tech was a top team in the conference at the time. Go look up Bobby Dodd and you might learn something.
 
The worst thing about playing a terrible team is the possibility of injury. 1 game doesn't make or break a season. Injuries can impact many games not just the one they occur in.

I agree with both sides about Ga Tech. Win it means nothing lose it's proof. It's part of the territory of scheduling inferior opponents, the loss would always be a bad one(How could it not be since it would be to a bad team?)and out weights any type of good fortune due to it being a gimmie game.

I expect to beat all the bad teams on our schedule.

Go Vols!

30-7 against Vandy last year. Tech is not a bad team unless you consider UT to be as well.
 
GT *typically* loses bowl games and to teams who have had a BYE week.

It's unusual, but easier to beat them than most other teams if you have extra time to prepare.



Not worried about this game in the least.

The jackets will be lucky to give us a ball game IMO. Our 3rd & 4th team troops will play most of the second half in a run away. Our offense will score at will.
 
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http://www.myajc.com/sports/fifty-years-ago-georgia-tech-left-the-sec/07w1mrefY4QgzlmzzSXr9O/

Try this. Explains it real well if link will work. Also, when it had missed by one vote previously, Bryant had promised Bobby that his President would vote to get rid of it and he was the tiebreaking vote and he didn't. Bear had lied to him.

Thanks, JacketVol, that was a good read. Gives the context for stuff that happened when I was a little kid and couldn't understand.
 
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Thanks for the inclusion articles. They were interesting and informative. For some reason I had always thought GaT left because of Vandy.
 
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In truth, the Chick Graning incident is probably one of the biggest reasons Tech left the SEC.

Never Forget.

It started the souring of the coaches relationship but Dodd always insisted it was the 140 rule.
 

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