Net Neutrality and Sling TV

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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
Anybody want to take a guess on if the ISPs will slow steaming speeds down so folks will go back to cable or satellite?
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I am a cable cutter but when I think about it. Do we really want the internet band width used by people watching TV? Is that the best use of the internet when it can be provided with existing less complicated equipment? They need to drop the monopolies as they did with the telephone companies and let the free market take care of business.
 
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topdog4tn said:
I completely understand the wanting less regulation, heck I'm a libertarian, I'm all for freedom of the people. However this is not a black and white issue here, it is very grey. The history of the Internet is not a's simple as you say, have our connection speeds gotten better yes....However before 2015 net neutrality we started getting problems with ISPs restricting us by throttle necking us for multiple reasons at their free will. So is less government restriction a good thing yes, but remember government was intended to only protect the people from their freedoms being infringed on...complete opposite these days of course. I currently dont know which side to stand on with this because as said before you can always count on human greed especially in government and their connection with mult-billion dollar companies because that's what government protects the rights of in the era were in.
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The landmark case under NN was T-Mobile settling for $48M. What were their crimes? They were offering unlimited streaming for Netflix and Pandora. Try to make sense of that.

It's the federal government. You know not what you're asking.
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
I am a cable cutter but when I think about it. Do we really want the internet band width used by people watching TV? Is that the best use of the internet when it can be provided with existing less complicated equipment? They need to drop the monopolies as they did with the telephone companies and let the free market take care of business.
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That's been my real issue all along, but I don't know enough to gauge the validity. Internet bandwidth shouldn't be compromised for TV programming regardless of whether it's going to a TV, a phone, a tablet, or a PC. However, there don't seem to be real numbers available showing available bandwidth vs what's used for different purposes.

If Netflix could pay for favored access funded by customer fees, then what happens to all the other services that made the internet what it is before bigger entertainment services horned their way into the available infrastructure. How would we feel if the trucking companies paid to reserve the left lane of all interstate highways with money that we pay them for shipping?
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
Anybody want to take a guess on if the ISPs will slow steaming speeds down so folks will go back to cable or satellite?
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You realize there was only “net neutrality” (which was gonna be anything but, actually the exact opposite of the name when fully implemented) the last 2 years. Pretty sure the internet was doing just fine as a free and open entity from the 1990s until 2015 before Obama decided that government interference and regulation was needed.

Now that it’s been repealed, regulation will be considerably down and the free market can go back to working and the consumer will have more options due to greater competition among providers. So in short, no, there will be no slowing of streaming speeds, unless a company chooses to do so and wants to be driven out of business.
 
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Thats what I want big brother taking care of me. They do such a good job with everything else they manage, what was our deficit again? How about if my provider doesn't suit my needs I change providers, hmm, a novel Idea.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
It's not over yet. Congress still has to vote on it. Call your congress critters and tell them to support Net Neutrality!
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Give me a break. There’s nothing “neutral” about this legislation - this is nothing more than a power grab by the government. They’ve been looking for a way to regulate the internet for a long time under the guise of “fairness”. It won’t be long before internet speech is censored.
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
Anybody want to take a guess on if the ISPs will slow steaming speeds down so folks will go back to cable or satellite?
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Actually in two different cities I've experienced slower data speeds by Comcast SINCE the supposed net neutrality placed in 2015. Vudu, Netflix, Youtube, are all virtually unwatchanle now for an entire movie without experiencing delays. Prior to 2015, never had an issue streaming anything at any time. Over The Top/OTT providers are going to be forced to pay something if they are going to use ISPs for profit, else the ISPs will find ways to make their services unwatchable, which I'm experiencing now.
 
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AT&T and Comcast lawsuit has nullified a city’s broadband competition law | Ars Technica

I just want more competition. The big boys have so far successfully blocked Google Fiber from Nashville. In my neighborhood the only choices are AT&T and Comcast. The AT&T lines in our neighborhood are so antiquated that the broadband speeds are horrible. Comcast has good service but they lie and their customer service is beyond horrible. We cut cable down to internet only and use roku, netflix, and sling. Probably going to cancel sling after bowl games - only reason we got it for college football. If you live within 20-30 miles of a metropolitan area I highly recommend building a coat hanger HD antenna for about 10 bucks for over the air channels. They work great. Videos on Youtube on how to make. hd coat hanger anntenna.png
 
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VolStrom said:
The government has a plan to steer all of the sheep back to cable TV by 2019 if you didn't already know.
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Time to vote the G.aurd O.ur P.rofits party out in 2018, nothing but oligarchs and plutocrats, consider what they've done thus far. Okay apologists flame away! :crazy:
 
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orangeluvr said:
Time to vote the G.aurd O.ur P.rofits party out in 2018, nothing but oligarchs and plutocrats, consider what they've done thus far. Okay apologists flame away! :crazy:
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The tax bill they're about to pass is going to cut my tax burden by about 3 grand next year. I can get on board with that.
 
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topdog4tn said:
I completely understand the wanting less regulation, heck I'm a libertarian, I'm all for freedom of the people. However this is not a black and white issue here, it is very grey. The history of the Internet is not a's simple as you say, have our connection speeds gotten better yes....However before 2015 net neutrality we started getting problems with ISPs restricting us by throttle necking us for multiple reasons at their free will. So is less government restriction a good thing yes, but remember government was intended to only protect the people from their freedoms being infringed on...complete opposite these days of course. I currently dont know which side to stand on with this because as said before you can always count on human greed especially in government and their connection with mult-billion dollar companies because that's what government protects the rights of in the era were in.
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If you are blabbering about human greed, you don't understand Libertarianism because you fail to acknowledge what you are referring to as greed is present on BOTH sides of the equation.

While it is true that some of the ISPs will try to exploit what they see as a sweetheart deal, their customers and other business minded folks will be participating in the market. If the isps simply raise fees to a true market value, then the market will adjust. If they raise prices too high and gouge customers, they will lose market share and a more efficient supplier will emerge.

If you want a free and open internet, the free market is the place to go. If you want to make sure the government doesn't allow someone to make Netflix more expensive even if that means a better idea will never be developed because the profitability will be regulated, then by all means, trust the politicians to look out for you.
 
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eVOLution said:
AT&T and Comcast lawsuit has nullified a city’s broadband competition law | Ars Technica

I just want more competition. The big boys have so far successfully blocked Google Fiber from Nashville. In my neighborhood the only choices are AT&T and Comcast. The AT&T lines in our neighborhood are so antiquated that the broadband speeds are horrible. Comcast has good service but they lie and their customer service is beyond horrible. We cut cable down to internet only and use roku, netflix, and sling. Probably going to cancel sling after bowl games - only reason we got it for college football. If you live within 20-30 miles of a metropolitan area I highly recommend building a coat hanger HD antenna for about 10 bucks for over the air channels. They work great. Videos on Youtube on how to make. View attachment 151122
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There was a pretty good article in The Tennessean last week about how Google is now microtrenching to get away from having to use the telephone poles. Innovative companies will always find a way to beat out the old stalwarts in the industry like Comcast. I can't wait for my Google Fiber so I can tell Comcast to take a hike. More competition and a wider selection of carriers will help negate any of this throttle or bandwidth limitation talk.
 
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fade route said:
Give me a break. There’s nothing “neutral” about this legislation - this is nothing more than a power grab by the government. They’ve been looking for a way to regulate the internet for a long time under the guise of “fairness”. It won’t be long before internet speech is censored.
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As opposed to the telecoms controlling everything? You know, the ones who's business model relies on a government legislated monopoly. They are the most hated companies in the world for a good reason, and want the repeal so they can force everyone to pay more for what they are already getting and stop cord cutting. They already tried it when they throttled Netflix to extort more money from them, leading to the law. I understand your distrust of the government. But the telecoms want to screw everyone to benefit their profit margin, plain and simple. This repeal is about money. The government has never had trouble spying on us without net neutrality.
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
Anybody want to take a guess on if the ISPs will slow steaming speeds down so folks will go back to cable or satellite?
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Did they do it two years ago? Things will probably be they same until the next technological jump...then then newest, fastest technology will probably cost more for the companies wanting to upgrade...
 
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roymcavoy83 said:
There was a pretty good article in The Tennessean last week about how Google is now microtrenching to get away from having to use the telephone poles. Innovative companies will always find a way to beat out the old stalwarts in the industry like Comcast. I can't wait for my Google Fiber so I can tell Comcast to take a hike. More competition and a wider selection of carriers will help negate any of this throttle or bandwidth limitation talk.
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More ISPs will definitely solve many issues...sadly, regulation prevented much competition with ISPs..hopefully we move past that
 
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n_huffhines said:
The uninformed mob acting out of fear is a powerful thing.

We're going back to 2015 rules you ****ing wimps.

Internet service got substantially better consistently for 20+ years. Is that not good enough? Did we really need more regulation? It's so irrational.
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Sure. Lets trust the telecommunication companies. I'm sure they want to do what's best for the consumers rather than their bottom line.

Only an idiot would be against net neutrality.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Sure. Lets trust the telecommunication companies. I'm sure they want to do what's best for the consumers rather than their bottom line.

Only an idiot would be against net neutrality.
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You have a child's understanding of markets. It's not about trust. Do you remember the internet in 2014? Was it better than it was in 2010? Why?
 
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