negative vs. realistic

[Volgrad98]

All of this is typical of fandom.

Most people expect a 6-6 record and to lose certain games. However, it won't stop people from complaining even though what they expected comes to pass.

That kind of negativity always frustrates me.

If you expected to lose, why do you asct surprised when you do lose?

People expect to struggle, but prepare for the **** storm when it happens
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No gators are allowed to talky on game week.

Salute is right. IT'S FOOTBALL TIME IN TENNESSEE, so shut yo mouth Gator! Good luck this year.(Of course I hope we whip you when we meet)

 

[GetEmVols]

No he was not a nega-Titanic. He was a lookout and his JOB was to watch for threats to the ship. He basically his job, a bit late though no fault of of his own. The real nega-culprit was the hotshot executive who ordered the ship to speed up despite the captain's preference to not do that. NegaVols are not hired to be disaster notice distributors. But insights into the teams strengths and/or weaknesses is fine. using the team as butt wipe paper regularly ticks true fans off big time.

There is a difference between understanding we're in deep trouble and putting down the team on a CONSISTENT basis.

See, so all the impatient negavols are the same as the impatient executive. If you get impatient and want to speed a process up.. you will hit an iceberg

 

[RikidyBones]

We can see the amount of lifeboats on the ship going to sea, and we can say that that's incredibly scary in case anything goes wrong.

Youre the annoying family member on a cruise that never wants to do anything aren't you. Don't waste your time and money if you don't want to have fun on the pool deck or when we dock. Cause I'm on the volnation cruise for the max and I'm gonna live the dream. 8-4 suckas.
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[Ashevillevol]

The point of me bringing that up was simply to mention how many of our fans showed in that thread that they understood 4-8 could really happen. They're finally where some of us have been since Dooley was hired.

So you think the sole reason we will go 4-8 is because Dooley is the coach? Who would you have as coach if you were AD?

 

[WoodsmanVol]

The point of me bringing that up was simply to mention how many of our fans showed in that thread that they understood 4-8 could really happen. They're finally where some of us have been since Dooley was hired.

So basically your goal is for us all to think the way you do.

Sure we can go 4-8, so could Bama or Florida. But all weather fans will take a positive outlook and back their team hell or high water. We could lose every game and even lose badly. But until we actually do that, I and I'm sure most serious fans will approach each game believing we can win it, put our faith in the players and coaches to give us the best chance to win and support them for all we're worth. Which means not badmouthing the guys who put on the uniform and trot on that field to raise hell with the other team. Winning begins with your attitude and seeing so many clinging to (fine with me) and pushing (ticks me off) a negative outlook promotes a self-fulfilling prophesy. I for one don't want you people contaminating our players with that horse excretion.

 

[sjt18]

It is realistic to recognize the possibility or even likelihood that the team will struggle. It is realistic to recognize roster deficiencies.

It is negative to assume things not in evidence and then to major on them like many did with Dooley. When there are so many unknowns, it is negative to assume they'll all be the worst they can be. It is delusional to think they'll all be the best they can be. The best approach is to just say "I don't know" and let it play out... then draw conclusions.

I get annoyed when people make pessimistic assumptions then argue as if the matter is already concluded.

 

[crusse10]

So basically your goal is for us all to think the way you do.

Sure we can go 4-8, so could Bama or Florida. But all weather fans will take a positive outlook and back their team hell or high water. We could lose every game and even lose badly. But until we actually do that, I and I'm sure most serious fans will approach each game believing we can win it, put our faith in the players and coaches to give us the best chance to win and support them for all we're worth. Which means not badmouthing the guys who put on the uniform and trot on that field to raise hell with the other team. Winning begins with your attitude and seeing so many clinging to (fine with me) and pushing (ticks me off) a negative outlook promotes a self-fulfilling prophesy. I for one don't want you people contaminating our players with that horse excretion.

 

[UTVOL02]

WoodmansVol for prez of VN :rock:

 

[crusse10]

So you think the sole reason we will go 4-8 is because Dooley is the coach? Who would you have as coach if you were AD?

I think part of us going 4-8 is accredited to Dooley.

Hamilton led us to believe that the top of his board was Dooley, and within what...3 days...he was hired. While I'm not entirely sure who would have been hired, cause I don't know who would have been willing to turn down the millions I would have thrown in their faces, I certainly wouldn't have landed on Dooley in 2 days.

 

[Nashvol2]

I love the Vols and think they will suprise a lot this season, but the answer to your question... the person that yelled iceberg saw the iceberg coming with his own eyes ( that is realistic )...the people that are being negative toward the season, that is their (opinion) .

personally i believe the Vols will stay afloat this season with 8 or 9 wins Go Vols!!!!

This. After a game or 2, if you want to say were going 4-8 and call it realistic than so be it. But this is week 1 game week. It's time to put on the Orange! Negative, realistic, negavols, and posivols alike. It's game time!:rock:

 

[VolBeef88]

No he was not a nega-Titanic. He was a lookout and his JOB was to watch for threats to the ship. He basically his job, a bit late though no fault of of his own. The real nega-culprit was the hotshot executive who ordered the ship to speed up despite the captain's preference to not do that. NegaVols are not hired to be disaster notice distributors. But insights into the teams strengths and/or weaknesses is fine. using the team as butt wipe paper regularly ticks true fans off big time.

There is a difference between understanding we're in deep trouble and putting down the team on a CONSISTENT basis.

So stating that UT is in trouble is putting the team down? Hmmm that's just funny to me. You can search from the mountains to the delta and you won't find a bigger fan than me. I love UT and always will. But as a FAN I have the right to state my opinion and terrible management by our AD.
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[EZE]

UT has already hit the iceberg. Now the question should be will Dooley continue to let the ship sink? From what I have seen so far, he will get us afloat and sailing in the right direction. The season starts this week so we will see how Coach Dooley and staff can do the job.

Bingo, we hit the iceberg a while back. My problem is with those who seem to pin all of our current problems on Dooley when, in fact, the events that have led to where we are now began to transpire around 4 years ago and continued through early this year when the Big Rat jumped off the Titanic.

And, you ask the right question. Like it or not, Dooley IS the coach. Can he get this ship back afloat or not? Nobody knows the answer to that question and it will not be answered this season. We will, however, have a pretty good indication around midway through next season (this let's us evaluate this season, next year's recruiting class, and then next year's team).

Until Dooley shows me otherwise, I am going to hope for the best because if he works out, we could be set for a long time.

 

[crusse10]

If you don't have anything fannish to say, don't say it at all.

 

[ApacheVol]

For those of you calling those of us who love UT yet understand we're in deep trouble negative, let me ask you this question. Was the crew member on the Titanic who warned of an on coming ice burg a "nega-titanic" crew mwmber or realistic?
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This thread has very little chance of convincing anyone that you are anything other than a negative fan and most likely not a fan at all. I don't mean to be negative toward you, I'm just being realistic. I'm actually a great fan of yours, I just realize that your methods of persuasion suck and you lack the mental ability to convince people to accept your ideas. Again, please don't think that I'm being negative.

 

[VolBeef88]

It is realistic to recognize the possibility or even likelihood that the team will struggle. It is realistic to recognize roster deficiencies.

It is negative to assume things not in evidence and then to major on them like many did with Dooley. When there are so many unknowns, it is negative to assume they'll all be the worst they can be. It is delusional to think they'll all be the best they can be. The best approach is to just say "I don't know" and let it play out... then draw conclusions.

I get annoyed when people make pessimistic assumptions then argue as if the matter is already concluded.

Here are some facts:
1. We are thin and young in talent.
2. We have a new coach with a losing record in the WAC.
3. We have a tough schedule.
4. We play in the toughest conf in the nation.
5. We can't sell out season tickets.
6. Fan enthusiasm is arguably at an alltime low.

There's a few issues that tell me some of what I need to know.
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[RikidyBones]

Here are some facts:
1. We are thin and young in talent.
2. We have a new coach with a losing record in the WAC.
3. We have a tough schedule.
4. We play in the toughest conf in the nation.
5. We can't sell out season tickets.
6. Fan enthusiasm is arguably at an alltime low.

There's a few issues that tell me some of what I need to know.
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Should have left #6 out. You're part of reason for that chump. Complaining about a lack of enthusiasm yet bashing the ones that have it. Hilarious. Your "facts" are too pitiful. None of those address this team at all in a performance manner. I'll talk to you after week 5. Then it'll be obvious.
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[VolBeef88]

This thread has very little chance of convincing anyone that you are anything other than a negative fan and most likely not a fan at all. I don't mean to be negative toward you, I'm just being realistic. I'm actually a great fan of yours, I just realize that your methods of persuasion suck and you lack the mental ability to convince people to accept your ideas. Again, please don't think that I'm being negative.

You totally misunderstand me. I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm laughing at you and your ilk.
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[crusse10]

Should have left #6 out. You're part of reason for that chump. Complaining about a lack of enthusiasm yet bashing the ones that have it. Hilarious. Your "facts" are too pitiful. None of those address this team at all in a performance manner. I'll talk to you after week 5. Then it'll be obvious.
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You don't like to gamble, do you?

 

[VolFan4life24]

I don't think it is negative at all to say it will very likely be a challenging season for the Vols. When you look at the over all picture, that is being realistic. The ones saying Dooley will fail at UT before he coaches his first game are being negative.

^^^this

 

[Nashvol2]

But as a FAN I have the right to state my opinion and terrible management by our AD.
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Absolutely. You have the right to say whatever you want under the constitution...but there's always consequences. Sometimes unintended ones.k:

 

[VolBeef88]

Should have left #6 out. You're part of reason for that chump. Complaining about a lack of enthusiasm yet bashing the ones that have it. Hilarious. Your "facts" are too pitiful. None of those address this team at all in a performance manner. I'll talk to you after week 5. Then it'll be obvious.
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This is an awsome board. Yet less than 1% of UT fans read let alone are members of this board. So to think me pointing out how pitiful our AD has allowed our program to drop has no impact on fan enthusiasm. But then again I don't expect you to understand.
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[bleedorange0037]

Should have left #6 out. You're part of reason for that chump. Complaining about a lack of enthusiasm yet bashing the ones that have it. Hilarious. Your "facts" are too pitiful. None of those address this team at all in a performance manner. I'll talk to you after week 5. Then it'll be obvious.
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How do his facts fail to address the teams performance? We are young and lack depth at several positions, particularly OL and DL. Which combined with a brutal schedule and playing in a conference with teams that are more talented top to bottom than we are is going to cause poor performance in the short term. That could improve as the season goes on and they gain some experience, but we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[UTVOL02]

This is an awsome board. Yet less than 1% of UT fans read let alone are members of this board. So to think me pointing out how pitiful our AD has allowed our program to drop has no impact on fan enthusiasm. But then again I don't expect you to understand.
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So you insult over 99% of the fanbase and consider yourself one of the greatest UT fans? What a clown lmao

 

[VolBeef88]

Absolutely. You have the right to say whatever you want under the constitution...but there's always consequences. Sometimes unintended ones.k:

Damn right. And when October ends and all the sunshine pumpers start jumping off bridges across the state I will still be where I am now. Living in the real world and still pissed that the clown sitting in the AD office has driven our program in the dirt.
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[crusse10]

So you insult over 99% of the fanbase and consider yourself one of the greatest UT fans? What a clown lmao

:ermm:
Methinks he meant that less than 1% of the fans read this board, let alone are members of this board and post regularly