Needs for 2015 Class

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25 seems to be the consensus of the number of recruits we will sign for 2015.

Any idea as to what positions we will go after for 2015?
 
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OL and QB are obvious needs. Every other position I think we will just be looking for blue chippers.
 
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Specifically 2-3 OT's, qb, rb,te, pass rushers, then the best available
 
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OL - at least 4
QB - 1 for sure, 2 if 1 is a project
RB - 1
WR - 3
TE - 1
DE - 2 or 3
DT - 3
LB - 3
DB - 3
Then 3 or 4 BPAs
 
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To help the discussion, our 2015 defensive depth chart looks similar to this (assuming no redshirts, assuming Maggitt and Randolph enter NFL draft):

FS:
Gaulden (So)
Johnson (Jr)

SS:
Kelly (So)
McDowell (So)
McNeil (Sr)

Nickel:
Ev Berry (So)
Swafford (Jr)

CB1:
Sutton (Jr)
Mosely (So)
J Woods (Fr)

CB2:
Payne (So)
Foreman (Jr)
Williams (Jr)

OLB:
Jalen R-M (Jr)
El. Berry (So)

MLB:
Bryant (So)
J Johnson (So)
Cherry (Fr)

OLB:
Weatherd (Sr)
Bates (So)

WDE:
Vereen (Jr)
Henderson (So)
Butcher (Fr)
Vickers (So)

DT1:
O'Brien (Jr)
Williams (Sr)
Mosley (So)

DT2:
Saulsberry (Sr)
Carr (So)
Sawyers (So)
Mixon (So)

SDE:
Barnett (So)
Hendrix (So)
Jackson (Fr)
 
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VolinArizona said:
OL - at least 4
QB - 1 for sure, 2 if 1 is a project
RB - 1
WR - 3
TE - 1
DE - 2 or 3
DT - 3
LB - 3
DB - 3
Then 3 or 4 BPAs
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Exactly what I was thinking. Get Gentry as our Blue Chip QB then maybe Williams as the project QB.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
Exactly what I was thinking. Get Gentry as our Blue Chip QB then maybe Williams as the project QB.
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Gentry was looking elsewhere a few days ago. Or report out of New Mexico had him looking elsewhere.

If Fergy secures the starting q.b. position here, then I doudt Gentry will entertain sitting behind him for a two season, if Fergy goes the the NFL early, or for three seasons, if Fergy completes his eligibility.
 
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To help in the discussion, our 2015 offensive depth chart looks similar to this (assuming no redshirts):

QB:
Dobbs (Jr)
Ferguson (So)

RB:
Hurd (So)
Scott (So)
Paulk (So)

WR1:
North (Jr)
Malone (So)
Creamer (So)

WR2:
Pearson (Sr)
Williams (Fr)
Croom (Jr)
Smith (Jr)

Slot:
Howard (Sr)
Jenkins (So)
Wharton (So)

LT:
Blair (Sr)
Thomas (So)
Jones (Fr)

LG:
Jackson (Sr)
Kendrick (So)
Robertson (So)

C:
Crowder (Sr)

RG:
Wiesman (Jr)
Raulerson (So)

RT:
Kerbyson (Sr)
Sanders (So)
Stewart (Fr)

TE:
Helm (So)
Wolf (So)
Branisel (Jr)
 
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25 is not the consensus. To get to that will take a serious amount of attrition. 20 would be closer to where it projects currently.

Which means it will be 19 commits since it is the intent of the coaches and Jerome Dews for him to be a Vol in the next class. It appears they are looking for around 5 O-linemen and 1-2 QBs. After that expect it to be spread across the board with a couple each of RBs, WRs, and CBs. Pretty much loaded at D-line, LB, TE and safety - so probably one, no more than two of each. A lot of the mix will depend upon who leaves the program early.
 
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Rudy123 said:
Gentry was looking elsewhere a few days ago. Or report out of New Mexico had him looking elsewhere.

If Fergy secures the starting q.b. position here, then I doudt Gentry will entertain sitting behind him for a two season, if Fergy goes the the NFL early, or for three seasons, if Fergy completes his eligibility.
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Oh ok I hadnt heard that. I do think Fergy wins the job and hopefully for atleast 3 yrs. But just about any school these top QB's go to they have the potential to sit behind guys. But hopefully with the potentisl to only have 2 scholly QB's after this year one will see they are an injury away from playing. Who would have thought we would have our 4th stringer starting last half of the year. Just hoping like hell Fergs is the guy.
 
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I think the clear priority for the 2015 class is at OL. Not just because Jackson, Blair, Crowder, and Kerbyson with be Seniors in 2015, but because everyone else on the 2-deep are unknowns. We need about 6 OL in this class
 
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I have revised my initial thoughts a bit - still think we have several best available spots - still need a talent infusion so can't get too picky on spots - here is my current guess at how we land

1 QB - 1 TE - 3 OL - 5 DL - 3 LB - 3 WR - 2 RB - 2 DB - 5 best avl

however if 1 QB leaves we will add 2 QB's

OL seems like a big need after the Brown miss and us losing so many guys this year. However, on this year's starting OL we likely won't lose anyone - so not sure 4 OL is quite as critical as some think - we also have a couple of 2014 commits that could flip over to OL giving us room to gamble on a best avl guy

I think the 2015 class is going to be special - should be fun to watch
 
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I also think an elite JUCO DT is an important need. O Williams was not a top 100 JUCO player according to 247 Sports. We need him to be good, and I think many people assume he will be because he's coming from JUCO, but I think that's a bad assumption.
 
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volfan_28 said:
I think the clear priority for the 2015 class is at OL. Not just because Jackson, Blair, Crowder, and Kerbyson with be Seniors in 2015, but because everyone else on the 2-deep are unknowns. We need about 6 OL in this class
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Kerby might not even start in 2014 - not sure he will be huge loss in 2015 - Cthomas may well beat him out

2015 is a long way away but we likely return all our OL in 2015 from projected 2014 starters so while we do lose several OL starters in 2015 most likely (given this is a long way away)

we would still have a lot of quality guys coming into 2016 - not like we'd be starting all FR

Wiesman, Asanders, Cthomas, Raulerson would be here

then whoever we add this year - let's say Jjones and Redmond come on board - you add those to the list above and that is a really good 6 to get a starting 5 from

so while you want to get some good OL unless they are really special they won't be playing for a while - not essential to get 4 or over that imo

now if they are special, sure, get em - but don't sacrifice a special guy for just adding another body that likely will never play
 
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SCvol333 said:
OL seems like a big need after the Brown miss and us losing so many guys this year. However, on this year's starting OL we likely won't lose anyone - so not sure 4 OL is quite as critical as some think - we also have a couple of 2014 commits that could flip over to OL giving us room to gamble on a best avl guy
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True that we won't likely lose anyone on the OL after 2014, but after 2015 we will lose Blair, Jackson, Crowder, and Kerbyson. If the coaches don't prepare for that in this class, they will have all their eggs in the Sanders, Raulerson, Robertson, Kendrick and Thomas baskets for 2016. And that's just considering starters. What about depth? In order to have 12 experienced scholarship OL in 2016, we need 4 OL in this class. I'd take 6 OL since I'm not expecting much out of Kendrick and we don't know what to expect out of Sanders, Raulerson, Robertson, etc.
 
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SCvol333 said:
Kerby might not even start in 2014 - not sure he will be huge loss in 2015 - Cthomas may well beat him out

2015 is a long way away but we likely return all our OL in 2015 from projected 2014 starters so while we do lose several OL starters in 2015 most likely (given this is a long way away)

we would still have a lot of quality guys coming into 2016 - not like we'd be starting all FR

Wiesman, Asanders, Cthomas, Raulerson would be here

then whoever we add this year - let's say Jjones and Redmond come on board - you add those to the list above and that is a really good 6 to get a starting 5 from

so while you want to get some good OL unless they are really special they won't be playing for a while - not essential to get 4 or over that imo

now if they are special, sure, get em - but don't sacrifice a special guy for just adding another body that likely will never play
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You've convinced me that we don't need 6, but I still think we need 4. Right now I'm thinking that our starting2016 OL looks like this

LT - Thomas
LG - Robertson
C - ?
RG - Wiesman
RT - Sanders/Jones/Stewart

Not sure where Raulerson fits in but I think he'll be a good player. I think that looks REALLY good, but I'm a little concerned about depth.
 
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volfan_28 said:
You've convinced me that we don't need 6, but I still think we need 4. Right now I'm thinking that our starting2016 OL looks like this

LT - Thomas
LG - Robertson
C - ?
RG - Wiesman
RT - Sanders/Jones/Stewart

I think that looks REALLY good, but I'm a little concerned about depth.
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Richmond?
 
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volfan_28 said:
True that we won't likely lose anyone on the OL after 2014, but after 2015 we will lose Blair, Jackson, Crowder, and Kerbyson. If the coaches don't prepare for that in this class, they will have all their eggs in the Sanders, Raulerson, Robertson, Kendrick and Thomas baskets for 2016. And that's just considering starters. What about depth? In order to have 12 experienced scholarship OL in 2016, we need 4 OL in this class. I'd take 6 OL since I'm not expecting much out of Kendrick and we don't know what to expect out of Sanders, Raulerson, Robertson, etc.
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you would still have Cthomas and Wiesman as well

i get what you are saying - at this point though i still think we are in a spot where we have to be more worried about getting that gamechanging type talent on campus more than filling #s at positions - once you get some game changers that is not overly difficult to do with a competent recruiter and CBJ has shown to be that

so let's say a Hendrix caliber DL is avl - would i take that over the 4th or 5th OL (again not a richmond or jjones level - think Kerby level) - yes i would every day of the week

and if a big fish shows big interest late but i wont know till signing day - Ajackson type talent but with real interest - do i hold a spot for that - yes, without a doubt
 
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volfan_28 said:
I also think an elite JUCO DT is an important need. O Williams was not a top 100 JUCO player according to 247 Sports. We need him to be good, and I think many people assume he will be because he's coming from JUCO, but I think that's a bad assumption.
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A DT that can squat over 600 lbs multiple times is a good stat to have. I think Owen Williams will surprise us.
 
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SCvol333 said:
you would still have Cthomas and Wiesman as well

i get what you are saying - at this point though i still think we are in a spot where we have to be more worried about getting that gamechanging type talent on campus more than filling #s at positions - once you get some game changers that is not overly difficult to do with a competent recruiter and CBJ has shown to be that

so let's say a Hendrix caliber DL is avl - would i take that over the 4th or 5th OL (again not a richmond or jjones level - think Kerby level) - yes i would every day of the week

and if a big fish shows big interest late but i wont know till signing day - Ajackson type talent but with real interest - do i hold a spot for that - yes, without a doubt
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I'm good with that. You can always add a JUCO OL in the next class. If that's what it would take to get an additional Hendrix or Jackson level player in this class, I'd be good with that.
 
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volfan_28 said:
You've convinced me that we don't need 6, but I still think we need 4. Right now I'm thinking that our starting2016 OL looks like this

LT - Thomas
LG - Robertson
C - ?
RG - Wiesman
RT - Sanders/Jones/Stewart

Not sure where Raulerson fits in but I think he'll be a good player. I think that looks REALLY good, but I'm a little concerned about depth.
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Raulerson likely a G I believe - i am sure one of those inside guys could take over at C - also if we get a really good tackle this year - maybe richmond or Jjones turns out to be really good or another T we land this year - we could slide Cthomas to center - he would be a really athletic center and would help to have that athleticism at the C spot - could be special guy there
 
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