NCAA's NET Ratings

#26
#26
calban said:
If the NET were to be taken at face value, major-conference coaches would be forgiven henceforth for scheduling nothing but home games in the early season against the weakest opponents available. Build that scoring margin in November and December, and then hold on as best you can in conference play.

It does factor in the location of games, so I'm not getting his point here.
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Not enough to nearly offset the influence of both raw efficiency AND scoring margin. And major conference teams certainly aren't playing road games against cupcakes. Basically dominate 3 of the 5 factors - efficiency, win % and scoring margin in non-conference games.
 
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golfballs said:
Not enough to nearly offset the influence of both raw efficiency AND scoring margin. And major conference teams certainly aren't playing road games against cupcakes. Basically dominate 3 of the 5 factors - efficiency, win % and scoring margin in non-conference games.
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We don't really know the algorithm being used so that remains to be seen. People were complaining that the rpi system didn't factor in things like this so now they're adjusting. Give it time before you condemn it. Will be fun to watch how it changes after each win or loss.
 
#28
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calban said:
We don't really know the algorithm being used so that remains to be seen. People were complaining that the rpi system didn't factor in things like this so now they're adjusting. Give it time before you condemn it. Will be fun to watch how it changes after each win or loss.
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We know the 5 factors they're using. People have already done the analysis to deconstruct how each component is being weighted. So we do have a decent idea of the calculation. Based on that it's pretty clearly flawed. It will certainly begin to look better as the season goes on, but that doesn't mean the underlying methodology is any better. It will just make the biases less obvious.
 
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We just moved into the top 25. Bunch of games tonight. Be interesting to see how it changes.
 
#32
#32
Michigan Sts loss to Louisville moved them from 7 to 24. We went from 25 to 21.
 
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calban said:
Michigan Sts loss to Louisville moved them from 7 to 24. We went from 25 to 21.
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Considering the trouble Louisville has fallen into over the last year or so, coupled with the real possibility that they may either get hit with additional penalties by the NCAA or forced to self impose something on themselves, it's hardly surprising a team that lost to Louisville would drop that far.
 
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TNfan#2 said:
Considering the trouble Louisville has fallen into over the last year or so, coupled with the real possibility that they may either get hit with additional penalties by the NCAA or forced to self impose something on themselves, it's hardly surprising a team that lost to Louisville would drop that far.
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Do you really think that information is included in the algorithm?
 
#36
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calban said:
Do you really think that information is included in the algorithm?
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In the NET ratings and rankings? No. In every other ranking system, especially the various top 25 polls, I would be surprised if at least a few people didn't consider it.
 
#39
#39
Just out......NCAA Net rankings just released and we dropped from 5 to 6 after a double digit road win over a decent team. I know we can't worry too much about this system, but what gives? What say you, Vol fans? By the way, still 3 in the AP. I like the sound of that, better!
 
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cardvolfan said:
Just out......NCAA Net rankings just released and we dropped from 5 to 6 after a double digit road win over a decent team. I know we can't worry too much about this system, but what gives? What say you, Vol fans? By the way, still 3 in the AP. I like the sound of that, better!
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Should be 2 .. We are 4 in coaches poll behind UVa and thats a joke
 
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cardvolfan said:
Just out......NCAA Net rankings just released and we dropped from 5 to 6 after a double digit road win over a decent team. I know we can't worry too much about this system, but what gives? What say you, Vol fans? By the way, still 3 in the AP. I like the sound of that, better!
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Until you get 15-20 data points, there's no need to worry about the NET. If we keep winning, that will take care of itself.....
 
#43
#43
NET is well...kinda bad. It's not really a rating but an aggregate of several various factors that combines to form a ranking. The big problem with it is it doesn't consider strength of schedule enough -- it only forms 15% to 20% of the overall rating a team has -- which means you can just beat bad teams efficiently and rise better than you will by playing tough competition and dropping a few. RPI might have actually been better in that department.
 
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#45
#45
Tennessee could finish 33-1 but w the way NET is calculated, could still finish out of the top 4.
 
#46
#46
We jumped from 10 to 5 when we beat the Zags. Kansas finally edged in front of us and dropped us to 6. No big deal.
Texas Tech is the head scratcher, but they'll drop a little on thursday when they play duke.
We also edged Texas Tech on KenPom to move to #9. We're in good shape.
 
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