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KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- Though Tennessee agrees with most of the allegations made against it by the NCAA, the university argued in its response to the association that some of the violations should be considered secondary instead of major.

The university also said it tried to do a better job monitoring the recruiting phone calls that got it into trouble.

In the response filed May 20 and released recently to media, the school says it considers the basketball staff's impermissible off-campus contact -- or violation of the NCAA's "bump rule" -- a secondary violation.

The school also says the approval of lodging expenses for three basketball recruits whose visits in Knoxville lasted longer than allowed and some impermissible calls made by former football coach Lane Kiffin's staff should be considered secondary.

Tennessee considers some violations secondary - ESPN
 
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It really doesn't matter what we consider secondary if you ask me. The NCAA wants to play God with all the programs and there's nothing above them to keep them in check. So, if they say its major, its major. "Officer, even though the speed limit sign says 70, I don't consider 80 technically speeding..."
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supersmo18 said:
It really doesn't matter what we consider secondary if you ask me. The NCAA wants to play God with all the programs and there's nothing above them to keep them in check. So, if they say its major, its major. "Officer, even though the speed limit sign says 70, I don't consider 80 technically speeding..."
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I understand and agree. Just a little something for you. According to a cop friend, you have a leeway of up to 9mph above the posted limit but it applies only to 25mph+ speed zones. My driving experiences cross-country seem to back this up even when I pass patrol vehicles under these circumstances.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
I understand and agree. Just a little something for you. According to a cop friend, you have a leeway of up to 9mph above the posted limit but it applies only to 25mph+ speed zones. My driving experiences cross-country seem to back this up even when I pass patrol vehicles under these circumstances.
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what just happened
 
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So if I get pulled over for going 79 mpg in a 70 zone, will my argument of "a friend of a cop of a guy on volnation.com said there's a 9 mph leeway" hold up??
 
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canine_vol said:
So if I get pulled over for going 79 mpg in a 70 zone, will my argument of "a friend of a cop of a guy on volnation.com said there's a 9 mph leeway" hold up??
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If you answer all questions truely and give all due respect chances are he might let you go .
 
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rkvdg said:
If you answer all questions truely and give all due respect chances are he might let you go .
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Right.

Unless you are a chick or holding a donut you are screwed.

if you're a guy with a hot chick, you're really screwed because mr popo is going to wanna look like a real man and show your lil woman who's boss.
 
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NEOCON said:
Right.

Unless you are a chick or holding a donut you are screwed.

if you're a guy with a hot chick, you're really screwed because mr popo is going to wanna look like a real man and show your lil woman who's boss.
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What if it's Gunner Kiel with his new friend Barbie Cummings?
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NEOCON said:
Right.

Unless you are a chick or holding a donut you are screwed.

if you're a guy with a hot chick, you're really screwed because mr popo is going to wanna look like a real man and show your lil woman who's boss.
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It worked with your wife.
 
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I don't think the punishment will be anything worth noting. Doubt Fottball loses any schollies at all.

Bball maybe...but doubt anythigin worse than the two years probation already in place. Most of this should be on Kiffin and Pearl.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
I understand and agree. Just a little something for you. According to a cop friend, you have a leeway of up to 9mph above the posted limit but it applies only to 25mph+ speed zones. My driving experiences cross-country seem to back this up even when I pass patrol vehicles under these circumstances.
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Not legally, the speed limit is the speed limit. If it is 70 and you go 71, you are breaking the law. The officer can choose to ignore it, but he can cite you for going 1mph over.

The actual legal speed range is 10mph below the posted limit, up to the posted limit. So in a 70mph posted zone, you can do anywhere between 60-70. This is only under ideal driving conditions though. That's part of the reason that you really have to be going way under the posted limit to be pulled over, because "ideal conditions" are a somewhat grey area.
 
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If you are going 71 and get pulled over that cop will see his off day in court. There is lee way due to radar inaccuracies and it's proven.
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As an insurance agent licensed in 22 states, each individual traffic stop no matter 1 MPH over or 30mph over is going to ultimately end in the officer's judgement and how he wants to handle it.
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utvols88 said:
If you are going 71 and get pulled over that cop will see his off day in court. There is lee way due to radar inaccuracies and it's proven.
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Yea and you'd have to prove the radar gun's calibration is off. Good luck. :good!:
 
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I_Bleed_Orange77 said:
Yea and you'd have to prove the radar gun's calibration is off. Good luck. :good!:
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Actually I think the burden of proof is on them. If you question the radars calibration, they have to prove that it has been calibrated within so many days/months. Innocent until proven guilty.... or is that they way it still works in America? :) :yes: :)
 
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TNfaninMS said:
Actually I think the burden of proof is on them. If you question the radars calibration, they have to prove that it has been calibrated within so many days/months. Innocent until proven guilty.... or is that they way it still works in America? :) :yes: :)
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Actually, that is true. The radars are calibrated every 12 months by a factory tech and they are tested by the officer before every shift.
 
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utvols88 said:
If you are going 71 and get pulled over that cop will see his off day in court. There is lee way due to radar inaccuracies and it's proven.
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I will be more than happy to attend court on my day off and explain how the doppler works. It's overtime.
 
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Thread took a hard left turn in 4 posts. That's gotta be a record.
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As crappy as it is going to be to be put on official probation by the NCAA and to get punished...it is going to feel DAMN good to have all this negative press and speculation IN THE PAST!
 
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