NCAA Tweaks Rules for Targeting, Fake Injuries Ahead of 2022 CFB Season

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  • Schools and conferences can report the potential faking of injuries to the national coordinator of officials, which could lead to penalties for the school involved.
So, flop all you want in a bowl game or championship game and next week you get reported to the national coordinator of officials. That's pretty severe.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
This will not stop the faking from effecting the game early in the season but if there are some follow-on consequences it may stop some of it as time goes on. Have to see what the penalties are before we know if this is just words or it will be effective. Coaches will test it and see what happens.
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To be effective, the penalties would have to be worth more than the win. Would a school like Ole Miss be willing to pay $50k for a win against the Vols? You betcha!
 
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Hunerwadel said:
  • Schools and conferences can report the potential faking of injuries to the national coordinator of officials, which could lead to penalties for the school involved.
So, flop all you want in a bowl game or championship game and next week you get reported to the national coordinator of officials. That's pretty severe.
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In a national Championship Game, even a $1,000,000 dollars fine would still be worth it if you walked away with a win FWIW
This “rule” change is nothing but a fig leaf to enable them to look like they are doing something. It will be about as effective as a speed limit on the Interstate 🙄
 
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JohnnyJava said:
The only way to stop teams from faking injuries is to fight fire with fire. If a team wishes to slow us down, then we can go glacier-sloth slow, faking our own injuries between every snap. Turn a 4 hour game into a 24 hour game. The uproar from fans from a home team who are deprived the ability to see a game be completed, not to mention the protests from television whose scheduling would be disrupted, will force the hand on this issue. This is the only way to guarantee that the rules committee will revisit this and take serious action.
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But woe be the team that actually has the guts to pull such a stunt. They would be incurring the wrath of the league for a loooong time to come.
 
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"Ball-carriers who simulate a feet-first slide, like then-Pittsburgh quarterback Kenny Pickett famously did in the ACC Championship Game, will be ruled down at the spot. "

This is 15 years overdue. It has been one of the more infuriating loopholes in CFB for me. I remember a backup for USCjr burned us with half a dozen of these moves @2005-2006.
 
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The real problem with targeting is coaches not teaching and demanding that players tackle. Basically, wrap up the ball carrying player and get him to the ground. Instead, players too often try to be RAFAEL Luz missiles.
 
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The SEC could make its own rule (for league games) concerning faking of injuries, but they chose not to.
 
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This could have been so easy and they could have "virtue signaled" us to vomiting by simply saying....

"If an offensive or defensive player is down on the field and stops the clock apparently due to injury, they are automatically disqualified from the next ___ plays".

It is that simple. No BS. No administrative review. No fans saying the penalty was too light or too heavy. Nothing. These NCAA clowns must vote blue often considering the amount of review, administration, oversight, control they always seem to crave.
 
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JohnnyJava said:
The only way to stop teams from faking injuries is to fight fire with fire. If a team wishes to slow us down, then we can go glacier-sloth slow, faking our own injuries between every snap. Turn a 4 hour game into a 24 hour game. The uproar from fans from a home team who are deprived the ability to see a game be completed, not to mention the protests from television whose scheduling would be disrupted, will force the hand on this issue. This is the only way to guarantee that the rules committee will revisit this and take serious action.
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Reminds me of the infamous UT basketball game where Temple simply held the ball when Tennessee played zone defense. Final score 11-6. I was there as a teen. Heard the loudest boos and lots ever and lots of expletives.
 
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This “injury” rule is garbage. Next year they will permit schools to have 1 more on field coach on staff. Of course, it will be an acting coach to make sure players are believable when faking injuries. Ole P!as is setting the market on that hire. NCAA is on the express lane headed to irrelevance.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Only sub the injured player. No coaching during the injury stoppage. Player must sit out at least 3 plays unless you call a time out.
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Nah... so the lineman that goes down to allow himself to be subbed by a nickle back wanted out anyway, misses third down and maybe a punt. Big whoop. Same a for skinny wide receiver going down as the play clock runs down to get subbed by a tight end and avoid a delay penalty. Three minutes, not three plays at a minimum prefer 5, that is easy to enforce with the medical team keeping his helmet.

SO, one more time my FIXALL....

You get 5 clock minutes, with medical clearance at the little tent required for reentry, no coach rubbing dirt in it or giving them a Gatorade or salt pill. This is for offense or defense unless you take a team timeout while player is on the field or is deemed to be catastrophic as he leaves the field. You have a minimum of 70 guys available. Player safety you know.

Regardless......

1 Only replace the injured player and then the other team gets to sub 1 player to stop the team with the injury gaining ANY situational advantage by the sub. One each in that sequence is fair.

2 Second and beyond stoppages for a player is for 10 minutes. , can't be putting compromised players back out there. The rest remains the same...

EASY, CLEAN, SIMPLE, DONE DEAL All the refs have to do is keep up with number of stoppages each half. Maybe have a way to buy a player back after second injury without timeout.

I would consider an additional procedural down modification, if on offense you lose a down, if on defense roll the makers back for the offense when no team timeout is taken. If already a 4th down or 1st down move on. Maybe only after 2nd occurrence each half or some other trigger. NO yardage penalties.

Some variant of these together would address both main issues, getting player changes on the field/getting a rest, and stopping the clock.

Yeah there are ways to scam any system.
 
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Volador said:
  • Illegal touching by an ineligible player is a loss of down in addition to the five-yard penalty.
Wait, is this one on the field or off the field????
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How many on this board would be married if it was an "off the field" rule?
Or does this rule only apply after marriage when touching a member of another team??? Oh, that's 15 yarder.
 
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  • Schools and conferences can report the potential faking of injuries to the national coordinator of officials, which could lead to penalties for the school involved.” So if it occurs, nothing happens at the time.? ,,, So maybe 5-10 days letter they get a letter saying “don’t do that” ? That’s about a useless rule
 
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The NCAA really couldn’t have come up with a more useless ruling on fake injuries. This translates to, “We wanted to give the appearance of addressing this while not really doing anything about it because the guys who pull our strings want to be able to continue to do it.” The ‘AA needs to go away post haste.
 
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CroKev said:
Make it simple: any injury that stops the clock keeps you out of the following 5 defensive plays.
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If you are injured, real or fake, then you are out for the remainder of that drive, and the next one. It will help protect those who are truly dinged, and impose a cost on those who are not.

Simple fix.
 
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I mean the Pickett play is now illegal? Who complained about that one? What about fake running out of bounds—Is that illegal too? I thought that was a crafty play.
 
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TC 83 said:
I mean the Pickett play is now illegal? Who complained about that one? What about fake running out of bounds—Is that illegal too? I thought that was a crafty play.
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Yeah, until a defender pops him on the sideline and draws the 15 yard flag. Sorry, but if you fake a slide, or running out of bounds, and go for the yards...you deserve whatever you get. Actions have consequences, regardless of position.

Getting your ass busted when you tried to get cute should never, ever, result in a flag.

Go Vols.
 
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