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Again and again we are being talked about and downed. Can and should the University of Tennessee file a law suit against Lane Kiffin? I know we should all be moving on and I think we are trying. But, the local and national medias will not let us. I know the burden falls upon Hamilton to control his coaches and I think he tries. Everytime I saw Kiffin talk to recruits or Alumni, Hamilton appeared to be around, like a parent watching their kid in a sand box. Kiffin is a snake oil saleman as we all know. So people like that go to all extremes to do what they want. There has to be a way for UT, as an instituation, to slap him with some kind of suit. Has to be. It would be a very proactive move, even if it comes from our Trustees.
 
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My initial reaction is HE!! YES! BUt i would rather never have to deal with the slimy b@5+ard again if I dont have to. Unless its a BCS game next year or the next.
 
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i believe it was raiders owner that said he would tear this university apart. I will be happy when all this garbage is settled and we won't have to talk about him ever again.
 
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The infinte capsule of internet doom.

...this too shall pass.
 
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madbamahater said:
Again and again we are being talked about and downed. Can and should the University of Tennessee file a law suit against Lane Kiffin? I know we should all be moving on and I think we are trying. But, the local and national medias will not let us. I know the burden falls upon Hamilton to control his coaches and I think he tries. Everytime I saw Kiffin talk to recruits or Alumni, Hamilton appeared to be around, like a parent watching their kid in a sand box. Kiffin is a snake oil saleman as we all know. So people like that go to all extremes to do what they want. There has to be a way for UT, as an instituation, to slap him with some kind of suit. Has to be. It would be a very proactive move, even if it comes from our Trustees.
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The only action the university needs to take is to fire Hamilton. He hired Kiffin,Pearl, and Raleigh and now all three programs are being investigated by the NCAA. This happened on Hamilton's watch with his hires. Hamilton needs to be fired;the sooner the better.
 
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Good ol' Al Davis looks a little less than "Bat $#!? Crazy" now.....
 
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Rock33 said:
Good ol' Al Davis looks a little less than "Bat $#!? Crazy" now.....
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aldavisjan11_1.jpg
 
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al davis was like a prophet of doom and we all should have listened... i am against the idea of a lawsuit against kiffin, like the poster above i just want to be done with the kiffin era. plus if we did something like a lawsuit espn would go crazy and we would have to hear about it for the next 3 yrs until the suit was settled.
 
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I agree and I hate it myself and sorry for the thread. Characters are in question though because of him and everyone else is keeping this stuff alive. Coupled with the Pearl crap, if he would have just been open, he would've had hands slapped. But, this Kiffin thing snow balled everything. It has to be some sort of breach of contract eventhough he quit. It would definately channel some of the attention away. That to me is priceless. It's every day none stop media slamming of our "silly slap on the wrist rule breaking". I'm not one for conspiracy, but it has to be an Alabama, Auburn, or Kentucky using this as a way to mask their obvious buying of players (major violations).
 
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Al Davis did call the dude a liar, straight up.
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Hamilton to go???? I'm not a fan of him don't get me wrong. The Pearl hire was spot on!!!!! pearl has done wonders with our program and we are a little indebted to him for that. That's why you see all the fan support. Now, Pearl should have never let this grow into what it is. Hamilton had nothing to do with that and if I'm right Pearl admits to lying to Hamilton. Which later resulted in hamilton contacting the NCAA again and internally punishing Pearl. Kiffin hire was off the cuff and almost done in a panic to salvage a recruiting class that Fulmer never had anyway. I agree Hamilton blew that one all together but does that make him the bad person? I know he is AD, but it's definately not a lack of instituational control thing. Raleigh same deal, very bad hire. I don't know exactly what the rules deal is with Raleigh so I won't pretend to talk about that one. As bad or not as it seems, Hamilton and the bunch need to continue to look proactive. Now with a President and the grips even tighter, I really feel Pearl needs to stay.
 
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NCAA investigation, penalties against OU football announced | Tulsa World

This article is a very similar situation 2 ours. They were cited for failure to monitor much like us but there's 2 key statements 2 look at. The failure to monitor label isn't as severe a charge as "lack of institutional control," which could have brought tougher sanctions. and OU's penalties also include losing two scholarships in the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years, an additional two years of probation, which extends an earlier penalty to 2010. They were stripped of wins as well but ONLY because 2 illegal players played in those games. All players were eligible for us and the penalties were strictly on coaches actions. I expect a very similar result, a few scholly's and probation.
 
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The wins were added back, too.

The thing is, didn't they kick the players off as soon as they found out? If so, how could OU be punished severely if they handled everything the way they were supposed to? I'm not sure we did.
 
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livefaith said:
Hamilton fired 2 legends at UT in order to get Lane Kiffin and Todd Raleigh.
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I have no idea about how baseball was doing, and I'm not really concerned about it.

As far as football, firing Fulmer was absolutely necessary.
 
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orange_peel said:
The only action the university needs to take is to fire Hamilton. He hired Kiffin,Pearl, and Raleigh and now all three programs are being investigated by the NCAA. This happened on Hamilton's watch with his hires. Hamilton needs to be fired;the sooner the better.
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You forgot to add that Hammy kept Phil 2 years too long....man has to be held accountable.
 
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heart of a vol said:
Al Davis did call the dude a liar, straight up.
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I had a bad feeling for UT when you hired Kiffin and I told some of my Vol friends so. But they, as we would be, were supportive and some even geeked about him. I think the guy is poison and USC is nuts for hiring him. He won't last long.
 
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UGADawg4Life said:
I had a bad feeling for UT when you hired Kiffin and I told some of my Vol friends so. But they, as we would be, were supportive and some even geeked about him. I think the guy is poison and USC is nuts for hiring him. He won't last long.
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He kicked yalls ass
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Kiffin didn't work out, but Tennessee fans get far too much crap for supporting him. People talk about him like he's the most embarrassing thing to ever happen to the SEC, which is crap.
 
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livefaith said:
Hamilton fired 2 legends at UT in order to get Lane Kiffin and Todd Raleigh.
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He should have fired Fulmer in 2005! We would have had a much better chance of hiring a reputable coach then. But the real problem is that Hamilton is a great money guy but knows very little about how to run an athletic department.

The failure to monitor was not an isolated incident in one area. It was a systemic problem for which Hamilton himself is responsible. Pair that with the poor judgement in hiring a rogue football coach shows that Hamilton is in over his head.
 
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