Devo182
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I think the ability of players to make money other than signing day is very limited other than the star players. I mean, if you turn on your local channels you rarely see the local average joe Pro player is doing car dealership commercials if they are lucky. Nobody wants 99.9% of these kids in their ads.
Apparently congress is expected at some point to work with the NCAA on national guidelines and rules...may be a ways off.
This is a bit of limited/outdated view given social media advertising opportunities, Cameo, and such. One industry guy says he predicts 75% of these kids will make at least $2k a year. Not a ton, but it's a little side money for most these kids. I do wonder how much will make, say, 12k+ enough to have federal income taxes due (not just SE tax).
His list of opportunities opened my eyes a bit, it's a nice twitter thread if you read it all:
Dude why are getting on me about that? It's a speculative statement about how things will go. I know you are very confident in your assertions on this topic but settle down man.
Maybe there will be legal messes in the background, but I don't see this monstrous entity really changing at its core. People were also freaking out a decade ago when the P5 was looking to semi-separate as the Autonomous 5 as they did in 2015...then quickly came guaranteed multiyear scholarships nationwide...then stipends...I remember a lot of people panicking back then at paying players and giving them more. And yet here's CFB as big as ever and certainly it's the same when we all turn on our tube boxes and watch.I think the fun hasn't even started. My guess as to additional legal problems.
- many more mega class action lawsuits against the NCAA and member schools into the $10s of billions
- DOJ Anti-trust Division may prosecute the NCAA for their new stupid rules
- Players sue individual States (depending on the NIL law) for Constitutional "taking"
- I would think DOJ might have an issue with the number of scholarship players as that would be restricting competition, but have to see on that. DOJ did tell them lighten up on transfers, and the NCAA has been steadily dropping rules for that over the last few years.
Economic problems.
- mega class action lawsuits which the schools will be on the hook for
- facilities and long-term coaches salaries liabilities
- TV/Radio contracts are going to take major hits as some schools are not going to play the arms war
- eventually the players will figure out they walk off the field together in the middle of prime time TV if the schools don't put them under contract
My guess is eventually major splits in college sports, but its hard to guess the details at this point. The business model will disappear very rapidly once the TV contracts need to be renewed.
As I mentioned, we're talking small to no money for 99.9% of the players out there, other than signing day.
A good portion of pro athletes really don't get big deals, which is why you see even medium tier athletes doing car dealerships ads. Nobody is going to want 100s of LSU kids in their ads. For most of these kids it comes down to signing day, after that... nobody is going to care until the transfer date arrives. They won't be paying these kids for NIL, they will be paying them to play... that's the only value 99% of them have.
Maybe there will be legal messes in the background, but I don't see this monstrous entity really changing at its core. People were also freaking out a decade ago when the P5 was looking to semi-separate as the Autonomous 5 as they did in 2015...then quickly came guaranteed multiyear scholarships nationwide...then stipends...I remember a lot of people panicking back then at paying players and giving them more. And yet here's CFB as big as ever and certainly it's the same when we all turn on our tube boxes and watch.
Its a discussion, I didn't realize I was "getting on you". LOL (my apologizes if I came across as getting at you )
Basically, there are no real rules, and there probably won't be any real rules in the future. Real = realistic in this context.
Small to no money is relative. $2,000 can be a lot to a poor college kid. I think plenty of us have been there.
People are laughing at them for trying to make any deals at all and here this industry guy is saying 75% will thrive and make some money. It's all relative, but it's a nice bit for them imo.
Then we'll see what NCAA Football comes up with. Word is payments will be increased. In 2013 it was 75k for top tier schools (so almost a grand per scholarship player).
something that's either informal or formal or both.
No sir you are wrong. You must be one of those that sit around collecting unemployment taking from the government t.I.t. When you grow up and pay for a college education you’ll see college players always got paid. It use to be for the love of the game and school spirit. Like I said the game is now ruined. College football is now the NFL C team. Enjoy but I won’t watch.Yeah, capitalism sucks amirite?
No sir you are wrong. You must be one of those that sit around collecting unemployment taking from the government t.I.t. When you grow up and pay for a college education you’ll see college players always got paid. It use to be for the love of the game and school spirit. Like I said the game is now ruined. College football is now the NFL C team. Enjoy but I won’t watch.
Love of the game? Players have always been getting paid, now they’ll just get through their name and likeness instead of under the table. Very few players are actually going to make money.No sir you are wrong. You must be one of those that sit around collecting unemployment taking from the government t.I.t. When you grow up and pay for a college education you’ll see college players always got paid. It use to be for the love of the game and school spirit. Like I said the game is now ruined. College football is now the NFL C team. Enjoy but I won’t watch.
How exactly did ESPN start this mess? What do you think the point of conference championship games was? The Bowl Coalition? The Bowl Alliance? The BCS? The playoffs? It’s always been about money.ESPN started this mess and now we witness the end of college athletics as we know it. I’m blessed I got to see what it was and now how easy it will be to turn it off. R.I.P.
This social media monetizing will not be pay to play. They will be based on social media followings. And this supposed expert is saying 75% will make some decent little scratch from it. Plus NCAA football. Idk how you can say 99.9% won't get legit NiL deals when nearly 100% will get the NCAA royalties, along with small deals along the way, according to the experts.My only point is, the bulk for the players is in "pay to play", not NIL. Nobody gives a **** about their image for 99.9% of them.
It's ironic he'd have this view as a fan...because us as fans wanted (and SCOTUS agreed in the 80s) teams to be seen on TV as much as possible.How exactly did ESPN start this mess? What do you think the point of conference championship games was? The Bowl Coalition? The Bowl Alliance? The BCS? The playoffs? It’s always been about money.
He was being sarcastic...No sir you are wrong. You must be one of those that sit around collecting unemployment taking from the government t.I.t. When you grow up and pay for a college education you’ll see college players always got paid. It use to be for the love of the game and school spirit. Like I said the game is now ruined. College football is now the NFL C team. Enjoy but I won’t watch.