NBA Playoffs Thread

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Absolutely ridiculous.

LeBron gets hit by two Golden St players and no foul call.
 
#1,616
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I get the comparisons from LBJ to MJ but the clearest indicator to me that MJ was a greater player besides the stats, is the simple fact of style of play. I mean for the love of god can someone tell me what a foul is. I mean Curry got a 4 point play without even being touched. Lebron gets tackled nothing, and then Lebron purposely gets “tied up” with the rookie and they call the rookie for the foul.

You basically touch a guy and he is going to the line. Scoring was vastly more difficult 15-20 years ago. It makes the NBA hard to watch sometimes because of how bad the calls are. I suppose the commentators are use to it because they talk like it’s completely fine or even if they argue about it the NBA clearly isn’t getting the message. Defense is fun to watch too.
 
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Caleb59seal said:
I get the comparisons from LBJ to MJ but the clearest indicator to me that MJ was a greater player besides the stats, is the simple fact of style of play. I mean for the love of god can someone tell me what a foul is. I mean Curry got a 4 point play without even being touched. Lebron gets tackled nothing, and then Lebron purposely gets “tied up” with the rookie and they call the rookie for the foul.

You basically touch a guy and he is going to the line. Scoring was vastly more difficult 15-20 years ago. It makes the NBA hard to watch sometimes because of how bad the calls are. I suppose the commentators are use to it because they talk like it’s completely fine or even if they argue about it the NBA clearly isn’t getting the message. Defense is fun to watch too.
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MJ never played a team this caliber before in the NBA Finals.

He would majorly struggle against the Warriors if he was in LeBron’s spot right now.

They have 4 freaking players who can put up Double Digits in a hurry.

As great as MJ was, he’s not beating the Warriors.
Plain & Simple.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
MJ never played a team this caliber before in the NBA Finals.

He would majorly struggle against the Warriors if he was in LeBron’s spot right now.

They have 4 freaking players who can put up Double Digits in a hurry.

As great as MJ was, he’s not beating the Warriors.
Plain & Simple.
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Keep dreaming. Jordans Bulls could play defense. No one player can beat a team. Jordan never beat anyone just as LBJ has never beaten anyone. Its a fact that todays players are nowhere near as physical.

Also, it depends on the era. People can ignore it all they want but its a huge deciding factor. In the 90's, GS would not stand a chance against the Bulls. In todays era, I would give a slight edge to GS. I say slight because Jordan made every one around him that much better.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Keep dreaming. Jordans Bulls could play defense. No one player can beat a team. Jordan never beat anyone just as LBJ has never beaten anyone. Its a fact that todays players are nowhere near as physical.

Also, it depends on the era. People can ignore it all they want but its a huge deciding factor. In the 90's, GS would not stand a chance against the Bulls. In todays era, I would give a slight edge to GS. I say slight because Jordan made every one around him that much better.
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You really think the Bulls could shut down prime Curry, KD, & Thompson?

Ok, well one of those guys is going to score.

Double team Curry? He’ll pass it out back to KD.

Double team KD? He’ll pass it out back to Klay Thompson.

Way too many offensive weapons for any team to handle.

Sure, it was physical back then but this new era, players are a lot more bigger & athletic.

LeBron is putting up 50+ 30+ in two games of the finals, both losses.

Please tell me how MJ would pull it off with LeBron’s supporting cast?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Keep dreaming. Jordans Bulls could play defense. No one player can beat a team. Jordan never beat anyone just as LBJ has never beaten anyone. Its a fact that todays players are nowhere near as physical.

Also, it depends on the era. People can ignore it all they want but its a huge deciding factor. In the 90's, GS would not stand a chance against the Bulls. In todays era, I would give a slight edge to GS. I say slight because Jordan made every one around him that much better.
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Exactly a guy like Curry in the Bulls era wouldn’t be what he is now because of the lack of physicality. Seriously define to me what a foul is.
 
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Caleb59seal said:
I get the comparisons from LBJ to MJ but the clearest indicator to me that MJ was a greater player besides the stats, is the simple fact of style of play. I mean for the love of god can someone tell me what a foul is. I mean Curry got a 4 point play without even being touched. Lebron gets tackled nothing, and then Lebron purposely gets “tied up” with the rookie and they call the rookie for the foul.

You basically touch a guy and he is going to the line. Scoring was vastly more difficult 15-20 years ago. It makes the NBA hard to watch sometimes because of how bad the calls are. I suppose the commentators are use to it because they talk like it’s completely fine or even if they argue about it the NBA clearly isn’t getting the message. Defense is fun to watch too.
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Watch this and tell me the D was better back then. It's pretty pathetic if you ask me. Jordan got so many open 2's (how?) and he was just shooting over the 6' 1" KJ. You'll also see some ticky tack fouls.

One thing is Jordan would love playing these teams with no rim defenders (like Suns in this series).

[Youtube]http://youtu.be/ihOmTU4c5KE[/youtube]
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
You really think the Bulls could shut down prime Curry, KD, & Thompson?

Ok, well one of those guys is going to score.

Double team Curry? He’ll pass it out back to KD.

Double team KD? He’ll pass it out back to Klay Thompson.

Way too many offensive weapons for any team to handle.

Sure, it was physical back then but this new era, players are a lot more bigger & athletic.

LeBron is putting up 50+ 30+ in two games of the finals, both losses.

Please tell me how MJ would pull it off with LeBron’s supporting cast?
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Lebron is the softest 250lb man I have seen play a sport. Now, I use to not be a Lebron fan but he has grown up and now for the most part just plays the game but still he doesn’t play with contact as in initiating or playing physical. However, that’s probably because of the rules. MJ had that killer in him. Lebron does not. MJ with a body like Lebron would of been amazing to see.
 
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Caleb59seal said:
Exactly a guy like Curry in the Bulls era wouldn’t be what he is now because of the lack of physicality. Seriously define to me what a foul is.
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They never saw anything like Curry. Perimeter defenders are better today and they can't stop him.

No idea why you are crying so much about fouls. You know who shot a lot of FT's? MJ. Curry scored 33 and he shot 2 FT's. He doesn't rely on getting to the line.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Watch this and tell me the D was better back then. It's pretty pathetic if you ask me. Jordan got so many open 2's (how?) and he was just shooting over the 6' 1" KJ. You'll also see some ticky tack fouls.

One thing is Jordan would love playing these teams with no rim defenders (like Suns in this series).

[Youtube]http://youtu.be/ihOmTU4c5KE[/youtube]
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I think defense goes hand in hand with physicality.. say what you want but if you come in the paint and I knock the mess out of you I bet you come in next time with that in your mind. Now, they have to think about getting ejected or heck even touching someone is a foul. Also, Jordan got more calls than anyone but the whole league is like that now. The argument would be different if I am talking about an outlier game but it’s every game, every season.
 
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